Anonymous
07/24/2020 16:06
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
I think there is some truth here. I’m in a unique situation where I have two children of different races. My white child had an easier time getting in with lower qualifications than my other child who I needed an appeal last year.
Was wondering how the evaluators will know the race, I see it is included in the cover sheet. Does not make sense to include this info sent to evaluators. But, I seriously doubt race plays a factor.
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Anonymous
07/24/2020 16:05
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
I do wonder about implicit bias. The package clearly says race. Also, for Asian-Americans the name is a giveaway. So, if the scores are really high then they view the child as having been prepped and discount it. If the GBRS is low, then the evaluator pay more attention to it (i.e., low executive skills, no personality etc.). Kind of similar to the college application review process that was disclosed in the Harvard admissions trial.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 16:04
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
I think there is some truth here. I’m in a unique situation where I have two children of different races. My white child had an easier time getting in with lower qualifications than my other child who I needed an appeal last year.
Was wondering how the evaluators will know the race, I see it is included in the cover sheet. Does not make sense to include this info sent to evaluators. But, I seriously doubt race plays a factor.
Isn't that like saying- I seriously doubt wearing a mask is a factor in mitigating transmission of the Corona virus? Overwhelming evidence but refuses to recognize the evidence.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 16:00
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
We are asian and my DD got in, her GBRS was 4C. We did not do WISC, maybe that was plus factor. I did spend some time writing what I would like to think was a persuasive letter, making the case for why DD deserves to be in AAP, may be that did the trick.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:57
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Not in 149 WISC-V - all subsections were high
3 new samples (realistic fiction, science oriented writing and math problem solving)
3 recommendation letters
Original submission CogAt 141, 4FO, NNAT 126 (can't remember the exact number)
No words. Beyond frustrated.
Wow. Have you considered consulting an education attorney.
I am just in shock at the moment, so haven't considered anything. Honestly, my daughter should have been admitted the first round and we thought it was a mistake. But now, I don't know what is going on. We also have an older kid in the full-time program, so we have a sense of the process and believe that the full-time AAP will serve my daughter well. Yikes.
This is how Asians feel when they receive rejection letters from colleges/universities. Shocked and frustrated.
I am the poster above. We are Asian-Americans. Didn't want to go there but since you brought it up.
Time to address the elephant in the room - is it possible candidates are being denied (or accepted) based on race?
I think there is some truth here. I’m in a unique situation where I have two children of different races. My white child had an easier time getting in with lower qualifications than my other child who I needed an appeal last year.
Was wondering how the evaluators will know the race, I see it is included in the cover sheet. Does not make sense to include this info sent to evaluators. But, I seriously doubt race plays a factor.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:43
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:At center school with high Wisc. Declined. It looks like high GBRS was the only thing the appeals committee was considering.
Welcome to the world of "Holistic Review" where the admissions committee does whatever it wants under the guise of "Holistic Review".
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:26
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
At center school with high Wisc. Declined. It looks like high GBRS was the only thing the appeals committee was considering.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:25
Subject: FCPS Appeals decision are out
Please tell me who you emailed for an evaluation?
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:25
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:I was one of the replies that had a child accepted on Appeal. Our base is our center school. Didn’t anyone else get denied who is already at a center school? Maybe they only limited admissions to those schools that had room? I’m just thinking out loud since these denials don’t make sense.
Yes, they don’t make sense at ALL. I think its something to do with COVID, lack of teachers etc...But VERY disappointing.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:22
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
I was one of the replies that had a child accepted on Appeal. Our base is our center school. Didn’t anyone else get denied who is already at a center school? Maybe they only limited admissions to those schools that had room? I’m just thinking out loud since these denials don’t make sense.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:11
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:My son did not get in on appeal. (Grade 3) To me, it is RIDICULOUS and I agree. DEMAND Re-evaluation. This makes NO SENSE. If there is a petition, I want to SIGN IT! I think due to Covid, less space in the programs!!!
NNAT (Dont remember but was high!)
COGAT (127)
WISC: 133 (99th Percentile)
My son is in Mensa, literally has a Patent Pending for a new game invention he created, and was recommended by a PhD who was an expert on gifted children and written text books (tutors my son) who said he is exceptionally gifted. He is an athlete, a musician, and an amazing public speaker. Does the kid have to be a CEO?
This is crazy. My completely unremarkable child made it in on appeal last year with just a few more work samples. Lowish test scores. Wisc was low so we didn’t include it.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:08
Subject: FCPS Appeals decision are out
Whoever was in charge of doing this just randomly accepted a few files and then went on vacation.
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:05
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Somebody commented there may be a racial thing here. Unfortunately, I am thinking I may agree. We are Indian. So are others (Asian Americans) we know who got rejected with crazy high scores. I HATE to say this but I think they are pushing white kids forward because way too many Asians in the program who are not as qualified with scores.... There is something to this, I think and needs further evaluation.
How do we request re-evaluation? I emailed but I think more need to request a re-evaluation too. I don’t have crazy impressive scores but I know that in previous years many with lower scores got in. What is happening this year?!?
I agree that more need to request a re-evaluation if this is the case. The results this year really don't make any sense. (I disagree with OPs who say it's the same every year. I've also been following the thread for several years because of older siblings going through the AAP application process. It is not the same as previous years.)
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:04
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Perhaps a lack of “virtual AAP” teachers due to COVID?? Also, the results came back awfully quick, no? Were they even looked at carefully?? Something fishy that needs better explanation nonetheless!!
Anonymous
07/24/2020 15:02
Subject: Re:FCPS Appeals decision are out
Anonymous wrote:Somebody commented there may be a racial thing here. Unfortunately, I am thinking I may agree. We are Indian. So are others (Asian Americans) we know who got rejected with crazy high scores. I HATE to say this but I think they are pushing white kids forward because way too many Asians in the program who are not as qualified with scores.... There is something to this, I think and needs further evaluation.
NP. I don't have a dog in this fight, but we are close friends with two Hispanic/Latino families whose children had very high scores, well above the benchmark, and they did not get in this year. We are in a part of the county with a smallish AAP population, too. I have no idea what's going on with the admissions this year and I'm sorry to all the people who are disappointed.