Anonymous
Post 06/03/2022 21:04     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
It isn’t just millennial women, the men are hopping on the ups peak train too. Kills me on every call.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2022 20:23     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
I don’t do either that I know of but I’ve received a lot of rude comments from older people on my voice. I can’t help it—I have a medical issue.
Anonymous
Post 06/03/2022 14:57     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
Listening to a man who upspeaks multiple times each sentence. I remembered this thread.

Ended up muting him.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2020 09:56     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't hear it in anyone over the age of about 28. It's actively harming careers. As a man I can't speak up because it sounds sexist but hopefully some of the older millenial and gen x women will say something.


I'm a millennial woman and I do have something to say about this.

You know what's harming our careers? Sexist mouth-breathing men like you who look for any reason to dismiss the intellect of a female colleague.

If you think vocal fry is annoying, I can guarantee you also sound like a total idiot in meetings.


Bravo, sis 👏🏼


You all are dismissing yourselves by sounding like that. That's the issue. You sound like you're saying, "I think this, but I'm not really sure if even I agree with it? Is my statement okay with everyone? I'm really not committed to my opinion either way, so I'm not sure if I think it or not? Depending on your reaction? It's fine if I think this way or if you don't want me to, then... I won't?"

That's how you sound.


No, you're dismissing women who speak this way. They know themselves.

This is on you, not them.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2020 07:18     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
Anonymous wrote:My new millennial coworker is like this. Took me weeks to figure out that she’s really freaking smart. Now I feel like she can speak however she wants, she’s great to work with and helping our team look good. It was my foolishness to assume that her speech patterns somehow reflected her intelligence. Live and learn!

-Gen X


Same here— one of the smartest most prepared people on my team does this and I would much rather hear from her than from one of the over-confident men where the minute you start asking questions things fall apart.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2020 22:07     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
My new millennial coworker is like this. Took me weeks to figure out that she’s really freaking smart. Now I feel like she can speak however she wants, she’s great to work with and helping our team look good. It was my foolishness to assume that her speech patterns somehow reflected her intelligence. Live and learn!

-Gen X
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2020 21:34     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't hear it in anyone over the age of about 28. It's actively harming careers. As a man I can't speak up because it sounds sexist but hopefully some of the older millenial and gen x women will say something.


I'm a millennial woman and I do have something to say about this.

You know what's harming our careers? Sexist mouth-breathing men like you who look for any reason to dismiss the intellect of a female colleague.

If you think vocal fry is annoying, I can guarantee you also sound like a total idiot in meetings.


Bravo, sis 👏🏼


You all are dismissing yourselves by sounding like that. That's the issue. You sound like you're saying, "I think this, but I'm not really sure if even I agree with it? Is my statement okay with everyone? I'm really not committed to my opinion either way, so I'm not sure if I think it or not? Depending on your reaction? It's fine if I think this way or if you don't want me to, then... I won't?"

That's how you sound.


It doesn't matter because if you say anything critical about women it's sexist or misogynistic? If that's okay with you?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2020 19:26     Subject: Upspeak and vocal fry on work conference calls
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone certainly has the right to speak how they want. But you can't control how people react to it.

I don't use vocal fry, but if I did when I see threads like this, I would change it for sure. Why continue to do something that so grates on others' nerves to this degree? It's really no different than a mentor long ago taking my dad aside and teaching how to dress more professionally. Should it have mattered? No. Did it? You better believe it.


While you are absolutely right, today, your father's mentor would be labelled a racist, sexist or some other "ist" and his or her career ruined. Facts don't matter anymore, only how someone feels.


And people will just have to wonder why they keep being overlooked for promotions and not picked for the jobs they want.