Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 15:06     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:
Financial aid makes people nasty.

We need federal subsidies for schools so that tuition can be reduced and everyone will stop comparing apples to oranges to bananas and be so bloody nasty to each other.



But then the private schools would move to, I don't know, a merit-based admission system? And that would truly have sucked for my kid, who would likely not have been admitted if I couldn't pay his tuition without FA.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 14:08     Subject: Re:Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My only take on this is that the imputed income for the nonworking parent needs to be increased to a minimum of $55-60,000. It should reflect approximately one-half of the median HHI for the region.


That's more than teachers make.


It depends on which school system and seniority. Lots of teachers make a lot more than that, and they can work over the summer to make more.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 14:05     Subject: Re:Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:My only take on this is that the imputed income for the nonworking parent needs to be increased to a minimum of $55-60,000. It should reflect approximately one-half of the median HHI for the region.


That's more than teachers make.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 13:06     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:We're not a financial aid family but we're close with a family who is. I went to college with the mom, who constantly complains about private school's aid offer. She doesn't work and her husband isn't making big bucks. It was understandable when the youngest was a toddler, I guess, but youngest is now in 2nd grade, so there's no excuse that she can't work a part-time job. I wasn't sure how or if private schools nudge aid families that it's expected both work? Is it just written on forms or do they come out and tell you directly? Because clearly she hasn't gotten the hint.

For the record, her pre-Corona routine was spent posting all day on Facebook, Starbucks visits, walking neighborhood with another (far wealthier) SAHM, and aimlessly browsing Target, Whole Foods and Trader Joes until the kids needed to be picked up from school.

I just don't get how someone could be so clueless that the rest of her girlfriends are working all day (to pay for private), while she's idle, yet thinks her kids deserve a full boat of aid. It's bugs me so much. Is it entitlement or genuine cluelessness?


OP, I haven't read through all of this thread, but I just wanted to say that at the three local privates that our family has been affiliated with in recent years, both parents must be working in order for kids to be considered for FA, except in extenuating circumstances (e.g. maternity leave or new baby at home).
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:43     Subject: Re:Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
This does raise a question of equity. I think the FA tries to bring diversity but it does penalize full pay families who sacrifice more (two jobs, smaller houses and debt, less trips etc) if it goes to others who choose to have an easier life (the FA is sort of a free income in this case). I think the FA need to be changed. For example tuition can be made a bit cheaper (5-10 percent) to eliminate the need for some, while other forms of aid can be provided. For example, one church school I know requires parents to work on campus for certain hours a week to keep the tuition low. Some FAs can be awarded in this way and might be welcomed by the SAHM.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:41     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope FA families are taking note. No matter how good the rhetoric at your school, this is what people really think. Wow.


Has there been another thread about this? There must be, but I haven’t seen it. The OP sounds very petty and bitter. I’m not a SAHM, but my mother was and she worked so hard to take care of us and our home. I couldn’t put a dollar figure on what she did for all of us. If there was a Target back then, I’m sure she would have been there getting us what we needed (you said that was one of this woman’s common activities). I quit FB because I find it stressful, but when I did do it, it didn’t take any time to throw up a post.
OP, this SAHM might be an extreme case. I don’t know any who don’t clean, cook, run all errands, and a myriad of other things.


That would be the same stuff that working mothers do while also paying for a SAHMs tuition.


Well, bully for you. Give yourself a cookie! Being so “busy” doesn’t make you a better person than a SAHM. Some families value having a calm, relaxed home with a SAHM over a harried, frazzled, stressed-out household with two working parents. Let me say it again until it sinks in. You do you.


I don't even have a kid in private school. But the WOHM mom is of course better than a leach SAHM.


Yes, because its so much better to have your kids raised by nannies, baby sitters, relatives or just leave them to their own to figure out life.


They are in school moron. Hence the Private SCHOOL argument. Guess those teachers are raising your children.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:36     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope FA families are taking note. No matter how good the rhetoric at your school, this is what people really think. Wow.


Well, there is one way to avoid this... don't be a freeloading layabout SAHM. Get a darn job. Any mother can go get a part-time job at childcare facility. Or Target's always hiring -- $15/hr x 20 hrs week is $15,000.


Then take out 35% for taxes, then medicaid, medicare, and all that and she's left with what, $8-9K. Then, take out before and after school care and she'll end up owing money.


$8-9K is absolute bear min, yet still likely more than the FA figure she’s complaining about! So instead of pointless Facebook posting all day & begging for a FA handout, she could stock Target shelves from 9AM-2PM. No need for a sitter, just work part-time during school hours. But of course it’s easier to make up crazy excuses and spin that she’d actually “lose” in the end for taking up a low-impact part-time gig. Because the SAHM is lazy and it’s fun to do nothing all day and play pretend that you’re wealthier than you are while scamming a school’s FA dept.


I'm not getting into the whether she should work angle or not but as someone familiar with Target staffing, there is zero chance Target would hire someone for those hours consistently. She could get a consistent overnight shift, maybe.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:31     Subject: Re:Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My only take on this is that the imputed income for the nonworking parent needs to be increased to a minimum of $55-60,000. It should reflect approximately one-half of the median HHI for the region.


What kind of bubble do you live in?
$120K is not the median salary for the area.
It's median HHI which in almost always the case in the DMV is TWO salaries.


DP but double check your math. You and PP are saying the same thing.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:26     Subject: Re:Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:My only take on this is that the imputed income for the nonworking parent needs to be increased to a minimum of $55-60,000. It should reflect approximately one-half of the median HHI for the region.


What kind of bubble do you live in?
$120K is not the median salary for the area.
It's median HHI which in almost always the case in the DMV is TWO salaries.

Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:23     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People who sit on their butt all day and beg for a FA handout deserve to be judged. Shameless mooches. Nobody is saying go get a 50 to 60 hour a week jet-setting career for $100k plus salary. But anyone can go find part-time work at nearby daycare center or Amazon or Target. And get off Facebook for Christ’s sake during workday hours. Nothing makes you look like a more pathetic working-prime loser.


“...jet-setting career for $100k plus salary” LOLLLLL!


What’s so funny? $80k-120k is what a “jet-setting” analyst / associate consultant is paid. In the air twice a week, typically in a hotel Mon-Thurs. I don’t think anyone is suggesting all SAHMs go seek such a job.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:08     Subject: Re:Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
+1. You don’t live in the area.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 12:07     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
Anonymous wrote:People who sit on their butt all day and beg for a FA handout deserve to be judged. Shameless mooches. Nobody is saying go get a 50 to 60 hour a week jet-setting career for $100k plus salary. But anyone can go find part-time work at nearby daycare center or Amazon or Target. And get off Facebook for Christ’s sake during workday hours. Nothing makes you look like a more pathetic working-prime loser.


“...jet-setting career for $100k plus salary” LOLLLLL!
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 11:47     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
People who sit on their butt all day and beg for a FA handout deserve to be judged. Shameless mooches. Nobody is saying go get a 50 to 60 hour a week jet-setting career for $100k plus salary. But anyone can go find part-time work at nearby daycare center or Amazon or Target. And get off Facebook for Christ’s sake during workday hours. Nothing makes you look like a more pathetic working-prime loser.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 08:13     Subject: Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
former board member here. Most financial aid systems absolutely take a choice to stay home by one parent into account. And I believe the level education and potential earning level is a factor also. For example, an attorney who chooses not to practice law or someone else with a post graduate degree may get a bigger potential hit than someone who has a HS education. Bu I do know that some families seemed to be very good at hiding assets. So it is definitely not a perfect system.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2020 07:09     Subject: Re:Do private schools require (or request) financial aid families with SAHM get a job? If yes, how?
My only take on this is that the imputed income for the nonworking parent needs to be increased to a minimum of $55-60,000. It should reflect approximately one-half of the median HHI for the region.