Anonymous wrote:Why so hostile? This is a garbage situation for a lot of player courtesy of ussf. But they put millions and years into this venture and could not seem to get it right so just do not underestimate the issues that happen with launching a new league. I would argue these clubs should possibly stay together as a group but join an existing league with some experience. Not sure. Just watch out for your players and stay far away from anything to do with ussf

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Again, the older team at Arlington and even more so at FCV have no compelling reason to leave their team to join a weaker ECNL with the break-in period in their recruiting year or years. If you are an 03 and not committed, why leave unless you are not getting playing time and only if you can start on BRYC or McLean 03 - the only good 03 ECNL teams right now in this area. If you are an 04, why leave at all? FCV and Arlington are by far the best 04 teams in the area and unless the rosters break up, why leave to go to an inferior team and have to break into a new group of players with politics and oversized rosters? If you are on 05 - same as 04. 06 and younger is a different story. Not recruiting years and the survivability of the GAL starts to matter. The GAL's survival is less important the older the ex-DA players are. For 03 and 04 it only needs to get them through one year.

This is obviously an 03 parent willing to join a questionable long term destination because they think its best for their kid. Who cares about the 06s and whats good for club longterm. the GAL will likely fail like GDA.

Yes, 03 parents and i hope all parents will do what’s best for their kid. Depending on what clubs decide, that’s either stay or leave. Easy.

The clubs will figure a league out. Again, the clubs didn’t fail, a league was pulled out from underneath them. If the SAME clubs stay together what is the difference? Your sorry 04 or 03 ECNL team is not getting an infusion of talent. 04’s and 03’s are not concerned with the half life of a new league as long as it can get them showcasing opportunities within the next year and a half. How is this so hard for you to understand?

Saving this comment. We will see.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Again, the older team at Arlington and even more so at FCV have no compelling reason to leave their team to join a weaker ECNL with the break-in period in their recruiting year or years. If you are an 03 and not committed, why leave unless you are not getting playing time and only if you can start on BRYC or McLean 03 - the only good 03 ECNL teams right now in this area. If you are an 04, why leave at all? FCV and Arlington are by far the best 04 teams in the area and unless the rosters break up, why leave to go to an inferior team and have to break into a new group of players with politics and oversized rosters? If you are on 05 - same as 04. 06 and younger is a different story. Not recruiting years and the survivability of the GAL starts to matter. The GAL's survival is less important the older the ex-DA players are. For 03 and 04 it only needs to get them through one year.

This is obviously an 03 parent willing to join a questionable long term destination because they think its best for their kid. Who cares about the 06s and whats good for club longterm. the GAL will likely fail like GDA.

Yes, 03 parents and i hope all parents will do what’s best for their kid. Depending on what clubs decide, that’s either stay or leave. Easy.

The clubs will figure a league out. Again, the clubs didn’t fail, a league was pulled out from underneath them. If the SAME clubs stay together what is the difference? Your sorry 04 or 03 ECNL team is not getting an infusion of talent. 04’s and 03’s are not concerned with the half life of a new league as long as it can get them showcasing opportunities within the next year and a half. How is this so hard for you to understand?

Not PP, but my problem with the GAL is that the showcasing opportunities are unlikely to be what they were, and probably a far cry from ECNL's showcases. I'm not just concerned with DD's age group either, since the bottom could drop out of TSJFCV if most of the younger DA girls bail. If I were not yet at recruiting age, that is what I would do.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Again, the older team at Arlington and even more so at FCV have no compelling reason to leave their team to join a weaker ECNL with the break-in period in their recruiting year or years. If you are an 03 and not committed, why leave unless you are not getting playing time and only if you can start on BRYC or McLean 03 - the only good 03 ECNL teams right now in this area. If you are an 04, why leave at all? FCV and Arlington are by far the best 04 teams in the area and unless the rosters break up, why leave to go to an inferior team and have to break into a new group of players with politics and oversized rosters? If you are on 05 - same as 04. 06 and younger is a different story. Not recruiting years and the survivability of the GAL starts to matter. The GAL's survival is less important the older the ex-DA players are. For 03 and 04 it only needs to get them through one year.

This is obviously an 03 parent willing to join a questionable long term destination because they think its best for their kid. Who cares about the 06s and whats good for club longterm. the GAL will likely fail like GDA.

Yes, 03 parents and i hope all parents will do what’s best for their kid. Depending on what clubs decide, that’s either stay or leave. Easy.

The clubs will figure a league out. Again, the clubs didn’t fail, a league was pulled out from underneath them. If the SAME clubs stay together what is the difference? Your sorry 04 or 03 ECNL team is not getting an infusion of talent. 04’s and 03’s are not concerned with the half life of a new league as long as it can get them showcasing opportunities within the next year and a half. How is this so hard for you to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Again, the older team at Arlington and even more so at FCV have no compelling reason to leave their team to join a weaker ECNL with the break-in period in their recruiting year or years. If you are an 03 and not committed, why leave unless you are not getting playing time and only if you can start on BRYC or McLean 03 - the only good 03 ECNL teams right now in this area. If you are an 04, why leave at all? FCV and Arlington are by far the best 04 teams in the area and unless the rosters break up, why leave to go to an inferior team and have to break into a new group of players with politics and oversized rosters? If you are on 05 - same as 04. 06 and younger is a different story. Not recruiting years and the survivability of the GAL starts to matter. The GAL's survival is less important the older the ex-DA players are. For 03 and 04 it only needs to get them through one year.

This is obviously an 03 parent willing to join a questionable long term destination because they think its best for their kid. Who cares about the 06s and whats good for club longterm. the GAL will likely fail like GDA.

Yes, 03 parents and i hope all parents will do what’s best for their kid. Depending on what clubs decide, that’s either stay or leave. Easy.

The clubs will figure a league out. Again, the clubs didn’t fail, a league was pulled out from underneath them. If the SAME clubs stay together what is the difference? Your sorry 04 or 03 ECNL team is not getting an infusion of talent. 04’s and 03’s are not concerned with the half life of a new league as long as it can get them showcasing opportunities within the next year and a half. How is this so hard for you to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Again, the older team at Arlington and even more so at FCV have no compelling reason to leave their team to join a weaker ECNL with the break-in period in their recruiting year or years. If you are an 03 and not committed, why leave unless you are not getting playing time and only if you can start on BRYC or McLean 03 - the only good 03 ECNL teams right now in this area. If you are an 04, why leave at all? FCV and Arlington are by far the best 04 teams in the area and unless the rosters break up, why leave to go to an inferior team and have to break into a new group of players with politics and oversized rosters? If you are on 05 - same as 04. 06 and younger is a different story. Not recruiting years and the survivability of the GAL starts to matter. The GAL's survival is less important the older the ex-DA players are. For 03 and 04 it only needs to get them through one year.

This is obviously an 03 parent willing to join a questionable long term destination because they think its best for their kid. Who cares about the 06s and whats good for club longterm. the GAL will likely fail like GDA.

Yes, 03 parents and i hope all parents will do what’s best for their kid. Depending on what clubs decide, that’s either stay or leave. Easy.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Again, the older team at Arlington and even more so at FCV have no compelling reason to leave their team to join a weaker ECNL with the break-in period in their recruiting year or years. If you are an 03 and not committed, why leave unless you are not getting playing time and only if you can start on BRYC or McLean 03 - the only good 03 ECNL teams right now in this area. If you are an 04, why leave at all? FCV and Arlington are by far the best 04 teams in the area and unless the rosters break up, why leave to go to an inferior team and have to break into a new group of players with politics and oversized rosters? If you are on 05 - same as 04. 06 and younger is a different story. Not recruiting years and the survivability of the GAL starts to matter. The GAL's survival is less important the older the ex-DA players are. For 03 and 04 it only needs to get them through one year.

This is obviously an 03 parent willing to join a questionable long term destination because they think its best for their kid. Who cares about the 06s and whats good for club longterm. the GAL will likely fail like GDA.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Again, the older team at Arlington and even more so at FCV have no compelling reason to leave their team to join a weaker ECNL with the break-in period in their recruiting year or years. If you are an 03 and not committed, why leave unless you are not getting playing time and only if you can start on BRYC or McLean 03 - the only good 03 ECNL teams right now in this area. If you are an 04, why leave at all? FCV and Arlington are by far the best 04 teams in the area and unless the rosters break up, why leave to go to an inferior team and have to break into a new group of players with politics and oversized rosters? If you are on 05 - same as 04. 06 and younger is a different story. Not recruiting years and the survivability of the GAL starts to matter. The GAL's survival is less important the older the ex-DA players are. For 03 and 04 it only needs to get them through one year.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the top fcv players actually going to stay and play in this league?

I cannot speak for the rest of the girls on our team, but my daughter is not. She loves her teammates, but she does not want to risk her upcoming recruiting years on an unknown platform. The situation sucks. At least she knows several of the girls at the ECNL team that she will be joining, so hopefully it works out.

+1 Same for us. DD loves the girls, just not willing to take the risk after all the hard work. Fairly confident we are not alone in making the change but each family needs to make their own decisions.

Yep. My DD wants to move as well, has played with the coach that will be coaching her new team and wants to play for him again. It will be hard leaving but we are listening to what she wants to do.

"Her new team." Does that mean you've already talked to coaches there and received a commitment?

Be careful with this. If you know the coaches REALLY well, okay, but you may be committing and end up on a composite team. And before you accuse me of being ‘anti-ECNL’, there are a lot more shady individuals out there in youth soccer than those you can actually trust. Sad but true.

BRYC does the "composite" trick! McLean will roster you on the ECNL team along with 29 other players. So if you want to travel and sit the bench go to McLean. If you want to just practice and not have to attend games go to BRYC. If you want to actually play in games go to VDA or Loudoun.

BRYC hasn’t had a composite team in 2 years. VDA has 2 composite teams per age group. VDA calls their composite teams PWSI and VSA. Just ask the parents.

BRYC definately does have composite teams. Just ask the 2006 girls who switched over from other clubs.

VDA is starting composite teams. Top recruiter told DA parents that.

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Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.

Agreed. IMHO, on both a local and national level, the few remaining DA teams -- those that weren't accepted by ECNL -- will see many of their top players leave for ECNL. A few of the girls displaced from those ECNL teams will go to their club's B team, but most will go elsewhere, including those ex-DA teams. The result of all this disruption will be the ECNL teams will have more more talented rosters, and the ex-DA teams will still be good, but nowhere near as good before all of this nonsense.

Anonymous wrote:One of the questions is what do ECNL folks really expect the former DA clubs to do? They have talented players and coaches. Do they really just think the clubs will turn to dust and float away like a Thanos snap?

They will band together and form a league. Mocking it will not make it go away. The battle now will be for players, just as before. And if DA players move to ECNL not every current ECNL player will stay on the team. Those players may very well end up looking for spots in the team they previously mocked.

This will be disruptive for all.