Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:31
Subject: Re:Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
He is morally right, but sadly I think she's legally right.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:29
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Saw online she wants him criminally charged. He should get a year and a day for assault. Violence on an aircraft is a solid "no."
He tapped the seat, not her. It's up to the seat to press charges and the seat ain't interested in doing that. After all, the idiot man may have tapped the seat but the idiot woman sat on the seat.
Would you rather be tapped or sat on???
You might want to brush up on your criminal law.
+1
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:24
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.
No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.
So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?
There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.
Sounds like you have no sense of personal responsibility. “The airline made me do it!” Shrugs shoulders.
NP. What are you talking about? Personal responsibility? How about taking the personal responsibility of buying the seat you would actually be comfortable in instead of getting the cheapest and then complaining when people around you simply live their life?
I hate flying. I rarely do it. Last place I flew was my dad's funeral. I spent extra to upgrade and not only board early, but have a roomier seat and more privacy. That is personal responsibility. Not getting the cheapest middle seat and then thrashing and moaning "why are all of these people bothering me when I'm sad and trying to grieve!"
That guy in the video is a douche and I can't believe they didn't have him escorted off the plane.
Personal consideration for the comfort of others and moral responsibility to be kind. Obviously foreign concepts to selfish, me-first recliners.
It's also inconsiderate and selfish to try to deny someone who wants to recline their right to recline.
Nope. A person who reclines is the active aggressor.
There's nothing aggressive about reclining a seat that is built to recline.. I understand the person in front of me may choose to do it. The seat has a recline feature and they are not obligated not to use it to make me feel more comfortable. It is selfish of me to ask the person not to exercise their right so that I may be more comfortable. When I purchase a ticket fully understanding the features of economy class.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:23
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The airlines ought to fix the seats so they don’t recline. They are already way too small.
I see it differently. The airlines ought to treat passengers better and space the rows farther apart so that we can all have enough space to recline. It's the configuration that's causing these problems.
So by your reasoning I'm allowed to do anything I want to another person when I don't like the system we are in? Do I get to push people out of line at a store if they don't have enough registers staffed? Am I allowed to park in a handicap spot because a business doesn't provide adequate parking? Am I allowed to demand to go before another patient at my doctors office because I'm in a hurry and the doctor's running late because his office doesn't schedule adequate time for each appointment?
To sum up your position: A grown ass man is allowed to act like a tantruming toddler because the seating isn't comfortable?? WTF??? So sad that this is where our society is. I wouldn't accept this behavior from my kids, let alone an adult. The seat has a recline feature. He knew this when he booked the flight. But he doesn't like it so its okay that he basically physically assaults the women to Get His Way??
SMDH at this PP and everyone who has posted something similar. I dare someone to try any of the above (including the assh@le on the plane) to me. I would not have been so tolerant.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:12
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Saw online she wants him criminally charged. He should get a year and a day for assault. Violence on an aircraft is a solid "no."
He tapped the seat, not her. It's up to the seat to press charges and the seat ain't interested in doing that. After all, the idiot man may have tapped the seat but the idiot woman sat on the seat.
Would you rather be tapped or sat on???
You might want to brush up on your criminal law.
No, I was being a bit sarcastic because this whole situation was so stupid and so easily solvable between the two adults involved.
But, because this lady (using that term lightly) took the opportunity to make a big stand over her "right" to recline her seat, she has now quite likely given the airlines an excuse to take reclining seats away from everyone.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:09
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.
No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.
So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?
There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.
Sounds like you have no sense of personal responsibility. “The airline made me do it!” Shrugs shoulders.
NP. What are you talking about? Personal responsibility? How about taking the personal responsibility of buying the seat you would actually be comfortable in instead of getting the cheapest and then complaining when people around you simply live their life?
I hate flying. I rarely do it. Last place I flew was my dad's funeral. I spent extra to upgrade and not only board early, but have a roomier seat and more privacy. That is personal responsibility. Not getting the cheapest middle seat and then thrashing and moaning "why are all of these people bothering me when I'm sad and trying to grieve!"
That guy in the video is a douche and I can't believe they didn't have him escorted off the plane.
Personal consideration for the comfort of others and moral responsibility to be kind. Obviously foreign concepts to selfish, me-first recliners.
It's also inconsiderate and selfish to try to deny someone who wants to recline their right to recline.
Nope. A person who reclines is the active aggressor.
eh, I think it depends on the situation. I'm 5'5" and when the passenger in front of me reclines it's not that big of a deal. But if a passenger reclined on top of my 6'3" son, that would be really uncomfortable for him. Yes, I would use my voice and politely ask that passenger to please raise their seat up or I would just trade seats with my son. Of course, if he is flying alone then he would need to politely ask the person to please raise their seat. If they chose to simply ignore his request that would be brutally rude on their part. I guess my son would then have to ask the flight attendant to find him another seat?
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:05
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Saw online she wants him criminally charged. He should get a year and a day for assault. Violence on an aircraft is a solid "no."
He tapped the seat, not her. It's up to the seat to press charges and the seat ain't interested in doing that. After all, the idiot man may have tapped the seat but the idiot woman sat on the seat.
Would you rather be tapped or sat on???
You might want to brush up on your criminal law.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:05
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
If you do not like it that a seat has been reclined, say something
Anonymous
02/15/2020 15:03
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.
No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.
So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?
There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.
Sounds like you have no sense of personal responsibility. “The airline made me do it!” Shrugs shoulders.
NP. What are you talking about? Personal responsibility? How about taking the personal responsibility of buying the seat you would actually be comfortable in instead of getting the cheapest and then complaining when people around you simply live their life?
I hate flying. I rarely do it. Last place I flew was my dad's funeral. I spent extra to upgrade and not only board early, but have a roomier seat and more privacy. That is personal responsibility. Not getting the cheapest middle seat and then thrashing and moaning "why are all of these people bothering me when I'm sad and trying to grieve!"
That guy in the video is a douche and I can't believe they didn't have him escorted off the plane.
Personal consideration for the comfort of others and moral responsibility to be kind. Obviously foreign concepts to selfish, me-first recliners.
It's also inconsiderate and selfish to try to deny someone who wants to recline their right to recline.
Nope. A person who reclines is the active aggressor.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 14:55
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.
No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.
So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?
There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.
Sounds like you have no sense of personal responsibility. “The airline made me do it!” Shrugs shoulders.
NP. What are you talking about? Personal responsibility? How about taking the personal responsibility of buying the seat you would actually be comfortable in instead of getting the cheapest and then complaining when people around you simply live their life?
I hate flying. I rarely do it. Last place I flew was my dad's funeral. I spent extra to upgrade and not only board early, but have a roomier seat and more privacy. That is personal responsibility. Not getting the cheapest middle seat and then thrashing and moaning "why are all of these people bothering me when I'm sad and trying to grieve!"
That guy in the video is a douche and I can't believe they didn't have him escorted off the plane.
Personal consideration for the comfort of others and moral responsibility to be kind. Obviously foreign concepts to selfish, me-first recliners.
It's also inconsiderate and selfish to try to deny someone who wants to recline their right to recline.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 14:52
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Saw online she wants him criminally charged. He should get a year and a day for assault. Violence on an aircraft is a solid "no."
He tapped the seat, not her. It's up to the seat to press charges and the seat ain't interested in doing that. After all, the idiot man may have tapped the seat but the idiot woman sat on the seat.
Would you rather be tapped or sat on???
Anonymous
02/15/2020 14:51
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.
No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.
So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?
There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.
Sounds like you have no sense of personal responsibility. “The airline made me do it!” Shrugs shoulders.
NP. What are you talking about? Personal responsibility? How about taking the personal responsibility of buying the seat you would actually be comfortable in instead of getting the cheapest and then complaining when people around you simply live their life?
I hate flying. I rarely do it. Last place I flew was my dad's funeral. I spent extra to upgrade and not only board early, but have a roomier seat and more privacy. That is personal responsibility. Not getting the cheapest middle seat and then thrashing and moaning "why are all of these people bothering me when I'm sad and trying to grieve!"
That guy in the video is a douche and I can't believe they didn't have him escorted off the plane.
Personal consideration for the comfort of others and moral responsibility to be kind. Obviously foreign concepts to selfish, me-first recliners.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 14:51
Subject: Re:Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
If a seat reclines, the passenger should be able to recline
Anonymous
02/15/2020 14:50
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.
No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.
Right. Why use a modicum of common sense and decency when you can LOUDLY COMPLAIN and get reclining seats taken away from everyone?
When children are fighting over a toy instead of sharing it, you take away the toy. Problem solved.
Anonymous
02/15/2020 14:39
Subject: Women Videotapes Man Banging on Her Seat After She Reclines -Who's Right?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There's a middle ground. Recline but only partially. Don't recline if the seat behind you can't recline for some reason, or during mealtimes.
No. The seat reclines. It's a feature. It's not the recliner's fault that the airline crams everyone in. If you don't want someone to recline in front of you, complain to the airline about their design or fly business. Not our fault that the airline made such a crappy design. I don't begrudge people who recline in front of me. I understand the constraints and I either have chosen to accept it or, if not, I fly business or take a train. Train and bus seats also recline and yet there is enough space not to interfere with the other passengers. Airlines need to do better and stop treating their customers like crap.
So the a**hole reclining people have no self-control or consideration? The airline forces them to be a**holes?
There's nothing asshole about using a provided feature. Nothing. If it's too cramped, it's not the passenger's problem. If you don't like that a seat can recline, don't fly or pay more. If the seats aren't meant to recline, then why provide them? So silly. As mentioned, I don't begrudge people who recline. They are perfectly entitled to do so. Why is that rude? It's not their fault the damn aircraft is so cramped.
Sounds like you have no sense of personal responsibility. “The airline made me do it!” Shrugs shoulders.
NP. What are you talking about? Personal responsibility? How about taking the personal responsibility of buying the seat you would actually be comfortable in instead of getting the cheapest and then complaining when people around you simply live their life?
I hate flying. I rarely do it. Last place I flew was my dad's funeral. I spent extra to upgrade and not only board early, but have a roomier seat and more privacy. That is personal responsibility. Not getting the cheapest middle seat and then thrashing and moaning "why are all of these people bothering me when I'm sad and trying to grieve!"
That guy in the video is a douche and I can't believe they didn't have him escorted off the plane.