Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
That sounds inconvenient. We (the parents) often eat out of the house, or minimal dinner, but our nanny always makes sure there are healthy meals available for our 3-year old. It would be odd for her to say, well mommy and daddy decided to have popcorn for dinner tonight so no meal for you. His meals are his meals, they aren't related to ours. I mean sometimes he does eat what we made but we didn't want to cook or not cook with him in mind. We fend for ourselves but nanny takes care of his food.
Most nannies will cook (or warm) food for just kids. But we’re not making larger batches (on purpose) to leave leftovers for their parents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
You really don’t get how it’s different for a nanny to wash a 2 year old’s underwear as opposed to her employer’s underwear? You really have no sense of privacy or shame?
I can see why nannies need very clear boundaries - there are disgusting people who will try to take advantage at every turn.
Unless washing underwear is a euphemism for sexual favors, your righteous indignation seems misplaced.
Given what might be in adult underwear?! No thanks.
Like what? And how would it be worse than cleaning up a blow out or vomit?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
You really don’t get how it’s different for a nanny to wash a 2 year old’s underwear as opposed to her employer’s underwear? You really have no sense of privacy or shame?
I can see why nannies need very clear boundaries - there are disgusting people who will try to take advantage at every turn.
Unless washing underwear is a euphemism for sexual favors, your righteous indignation seems misplaced.
Given what might be in adult underwear?! No thanks.
Like what? And how would it be worse than cleaning up a blow out or vomit?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
That sounds inconvenient. We (the parents) often eat out of the house, or minimal dinner, but our nanny always makes sure there are healthy meals available for our 3-year old. It would be odd for her to say, well mommy and daddy decided to have popcorn for dinner tonight so no meal for you. His meals are his meals, they aren't related to ours. I mean sometimes he does eat what we made but we didn't want to cook or not cook with him in mind. We fend for ourselves but nanny takes care of his food.
Most nannies will cook (or warm) food for just kids. But we’re not making larger batches (on purpose) to leave leftovers for their parents.
Why the h*ll not? You are making it anyway.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
You really don’t get how it’s different for a nanny to wash a 2 year old’s underwear as opposed to her employer’s underwear? You really have no sense of privacy or shame?
I can see why nannies need very clear boundaries - there are disgusting people who will try to take advantage at every turn.
Unless washing underwear is a euphemism for sexual favors, your righteous indignation seems misplaced.
Given what might be in adult underwear?! No thanks.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leave the kid alone and clean up the playroom
Any good nanny will clean up the playroom with the child. Teaching clean-up is a part of preschool prep.
Now my question, who are you PP? Are you the OP? Do you have a nanny or are you a nanny? I’m trying to understand your hostility and purposeful obtuseness.
A one-year old doesn't care about clean-up. There comes a point at which they genuinely want to be helpful and pleasing but it's not at age one.
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MY charge is always with me and independent play still requires constant supervision. Plus, she gets a lot of independent play with her parents so I’m engaged with her whenever she chooses me to be (which currently is always).
Your charge doesn't nap? Why?
Our youngest still takes a three-hour nap (all our kids were robust nappers). His nanny has no child-unrelated tasks in her job description yet I come home to a picked-up house, dishes put away, and laundry done for all the kids, all without me not ever breathing a word about housework. Plants watered. Sometimes there's even some food made. That's because she has a great work ethic and putting her feet up for three hours simply doesn't sit well with her. Because of this, she gets great raises and bonuses - as we appreciate her desire to be genuinely helpful to the family when she can.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
That sounds inconvenient. We (the parents) often eat out of the house, or minimal dinner, but our nanny always makes sure there are healthy meals available for our 3-year old. It would be odd for her to say, well mommy and daddy decided to have popcorn for dinner tonight so no meal for you. His meals are his meals, they aren't related to ours. I mean sometimes he does eat what we made but we didn't want to cook or not cook with him in mind. We fend for ourselves but nanny takes care of his food.
Most nannies will cook (or warm) food for just kids. But we’re not making larger batches (on purpose) to leave leftovers for their parents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
You really don’t get how it’s different for a nanny to wash a 2 year old’s underwear as opposed to her employer’s underwear? You really have no sense of privacy or shame?
I can see why nannies need very clear boundaries - there are disgusting people who will try to take advantage at every turn.
Unless washing underwear is a euphemism for sexual favors, your righteous indignation seems misplaced.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
You really don’t get how it’s different for a nanny to wash a 2 year old’s underwear as opposed to her employer’s underwear? You really have no sense of privacy or shame?
I can see why nannies need very clear boundaries - there are disgusting people who will try to take advantage at every turn.
This is the most nonsensical defense yet.
What do privacy and shame have to do with laundry? Should a "housekeeper-nanny" or just a plain "housekeeper" feel shame and that she is violating privacy because she is doing laundry? I'm not sure why your BA from some random liberal arts college gives you the right to feel shame from these tasks. And if underwear is somehow shameful, what is your excuse for being willing -- not withstanding your education and ability to impart your knowledge about a child -- to buy groceries/cook for the kid, but refuse to do so for the family to the extent there is down time during naps or preschool? Is that also shameful?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
That sounds inconvenient. We (the parents) often eat out of the house, or minimal dinner, but our nanny always makes sure there are healthy meals available for our 3-year old. It would be odd for her to say, well mommy and daddy decided to have popcorn for dinner tonight so no meal for you. His meals are his meals, they aren't related to ours. I mean sometimes he does eat what we made but we didn't want to cook or not cook with him in mind. We fend for ourselves but nanny takes care of his food.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
Taking care of everything related to the children is the nannies job (IMO). My priorities all fall to the child. Cleaning up after the child is part of my job. Cleaning up after adults isn’t part of my job. I have about 1.5 hours in the course of the day to do child-related chores and the rest of my time is spent engaging and teaching my charges.
Why actively teach and engage a child? Because the first three years are the most important for brain development.
If you have hours when the child is not at home then you’re not actively teaching them. Not to mention, children benefit from some independent play as well.
MY charge is always with me and independent play still requires constant supervision. Plus, she gets a lot of independent play with her parents so I’m engaged with her whenever she chooses me to be (which currently is always).
Nanny your ego sounds enormous. Get that one year old to work helping you clean up the toys! Let the parents know you are an “educator” and you only shop for milk! Yes I’ve hired nannies but not one like you.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
There is so much more to bring a nanny than diaper changes. (However, just today I was talking about how to do diaper changes on a 14 month old that prepares him for toilet training). And yes, I draw the line at anything that isn’t directly related to the child. I do anything and everything for the child in my care which includes his/her laundry, cooking, ordering, keeping track of class and teacher payments, his grocery shopping, organizing his closet, etc. It is a very clear line, PP, and very obvious.
Out of curiosity, how does this work once the kid is fully on solids and eating the same meals as his/her parents (which any well-educated nanny should know is the best way to establish healthy eating patterns)?
This is a really good point (OP). DD eats what we eat. Usually her lunch = warmed up leftovers from what we cooked the night before. But I would love if we could reverse that a couple times a week, i.e., nanny makes her lunch while she’s in preschool, but extra portions so that DH and I eat it for dinner too and get a break from cooking ? None of us are picky eaters and would be fine with simple food
I’m an educator-nanny type and I stop cooking for my charges when they only eat what their parents eat. For groceries, there will always be things (like milk) that the parents don’t need.
I’ve been a nanny for twenty years and the distinction between duties is pretty clear and far less confusing than you’re assuming it to be. Trying to belittle the PP is beneath us all. If you want a housekeeper-nanny type, you will have absolutely no problem finding one.
But as has been asked and not really answered elsewhere, why? As an “educator-nanny type,” why would you be willing to buy applesauce and milk, but not do shopping generally? Why will you kid’s laundry, but nothing else?
If there was really such a difference between an “educator-nanny” and a “housekeeper-nanny,” why are you willing to do housekeeping chores (short of cleaning up toys used during the day) simply because they relate to the kid?
Parents who value your education should be willing to find someone else to do menial chores relating to the kid, no?
Taking care of everything related to the children is the nannies job (IMO). My priorities all fall to the child. Cleaning up after the child is part of my job. Cleaning up after adults isn’t part of my job. I have about 1.5 hours in the course of the day to do child-related chores and the rest of my time is spent engaging and teaching my charges.
Why actively teach and engage a child? Because the first three years are the most important for brain development.
If you have hours when the child is not at home then you’re not actively teaching them. Not to mention, children benefit from some independent play as well.
MY charge is always with me and independent play still requires constant supervision. Plus, she gets a lot of independent play with her parents so I’m engaged with her whenever she chooses me to be (which currently is always).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Leave the kid alone and clean up the playroom
Any good nanny will clean up the playroom with the child. Teaching clean-up is a part of preschool prep.
Now my question, who are you PP? Are you the OP? Do you have a nanny or are you a nanny? I’m trying to understand your hostility and purposeful obtuseness.