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Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap.

There are local leagues for your kid to play in already. Find the club, team and league that meets your family needs and be happy.

True but nonresponsive and irrelevant. This is a collective action problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem). If we could coordinate our actions before tryouts, you might see different, better, cheaper outcomes. Because we (and teams, and clubs, and leagues) cannot assume that others will act in rational self-interest, we each act stupidly and decrease collective welfare. So yes, we all maximize utility today, but no, we are not happy as we could be if we acted more rationally. Other people's suboptimal decisions raise barriers to better travel soccer because people need or want to get on jets to play teams that may not be as good as their neighboring clubs (and all neighboring clubs might all improve if we all agreed to stay home). This isn't hard to understand. But of course some people benefit from building barriers to participation. So things look pretty rational from their point of view.

Workers of the world, unite!

Thanks, Bernie!

Wrong again. Go back to pretending the coronavirus doesn’t exist.

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Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap[b].

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Anonymous wrote:^ oh f@ck off Coach.

This needs to start. Us Youth soccer needs to be held accountable for what soccer has become. Too many barriers just to keep adults in business, making $ off of the backs of kids’ play.

They should be ashamed of themselves. USMNT will never win a World Cup. They made it just for the dumb elite. Smart elite see it for the joke it has become and wish to make a more rational, open system. But, then dumb elite’s kid wouldn’t be able to make the team.

When you say things like "US Youth Soccer needs to be held accountable" , I realize you don't understand the soccer landscape. Why them? They aren't responsible for either the ECNL or the DA leagues (the 2 big "offenders" ). That would be US Club Soccer and US Soccer respectively. Go learn about what is going on and why so when you post, you can at least say something meaningful.

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Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap.

There are local leagues for your kid to play in already. Find the club, team and league that meets your family needs and be happy.

True but nonresponsive and irrelevant. This is a collective action problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem). If we could coordinate our actions before tryouts, you might see different, better, cheaper outcomes. Because we (and teams, and clubs, and leagues) cannot assume that others will act in rational self-interest, we each act stupidly and decrease collective welfare. So yes, we all maximize utility today, but no, we are not happy as we could be if we acted more rationally. Other people's suboptimal decisions raise barriers to better travel soccer because people need or want to get on jets to play teams that may not be as good as their neighboring clubs (and all neighboring clubs might all improve if we all agreed to stay home). This isn't hard to understand. But of course some people benefit from building barriers to participation. So things look pretty rational from their point of view.

You sound like the nutty professor. Certainly if nobody signed up for the elite/travel intensive programs, they would die off. However, it won't happen because the majority won't sacrifice the few years that Johnny has left in youth soccer to start this crusade. No amount of brow beating about suboptimal/irrational decisions will change that.

Oh, and by the way, yes, thanks, I have had the benefit of a really good education and a lot of brilliant friends. Always happy to help others as others have helped me, especially those who confuse intelligence with being a nutty professor. Obviously you didn’t make it far past Econ 101. But that is no bar to lifelong learning. Keep up the good work.

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Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap.

There are local leagues for your kid to play in already. Find the club, team and league that meets your family needs and be happy.

True but nonresponsive and irrelevant. This is a collective action problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem). If we could coordinate our actions before tryouts, you might see different, better, cheaper outcomes. Because we (and teams, and clubs, and leagues) cannot assume that others will act in rational self-interest, we each act stupidly and decrease collective welfare. So yes, we all maximize utility today, but no, we are not happy as we could be if we acted more rationally. Other people's suboptimal decisions raise barriers to better travel soccer because people need or want to get on jets to play teams that may not be as good as their neighboring clubs (and all neighboring clubs might all improve if we all agreed to stay home). This isn't hard to understand. But of course some people benefit from building barriers to participation. So things look pretty rational from their point of view.

Workers of the world, unite!

Thanks, Bernie!

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Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap.

There are local leagues for your kid to play in already. Find the club, team and league that meets your family needs and be happy.

True but nonresponsive and irrelevant. This is a collective action problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem). If we could coordinate our actions before tryouts, you might see different, better, cheaper outcomes. Because we (and teams, and clubs, and leagues) cannot assume that others will act in rational self-interest, we each act stupidly and decrease collective welfare. So yes, we all maximize utility today, but no, we are not happy as we could be if we acted more rationally. Other people's suboptimal decisions raise barriers to better travel soccer because people need or want to get on jets to play teams that may not be as good as their neighboring clubs (and all neighboring clubs might all improve if we all agreed to stay home). This isn't hard to understand. But of course some people benefit from building barriers to participation. So things look pretty rational from their point of view.

You sound like the nutty professor. Certainly if nobody signed up for the elite/travel intensive programs, they would die off. However, it won't happen because the majority won't sacrifice the few years that Johnny has left in youth soccer to start this crusade. No amount of brow beating about suboptimal/irrational decisions will change that.

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Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap.

There are local leagues for your kid to play in already. Find the club, team and league that meets your family needs and be happy.

True but nonresponsive and irrelevant. This is a collective action problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem). If we could coordinate our actions before tryouts, you might see different, better, cheaper outcomes. Because we (and teams, and clubs, and leagues) cannot assume that others will act in rational self-interest, we each act stupidly and decrease collective welfare. So yes, we all maximize utility today, but no, we are not happy as we could be if we acted more rationally. Other people's suboptimal decisions raise barriers to better travel soccer because people need or want to get on jets to play teams that may not be as good as their neighboring clubs (and all neighboring clubs might all improve if we all agreed to stay home). This isn't hard to understand. But of course some people benefit from building barriers to participation. So things look pretty rational from their point of view.

You sound like the nutty professor. Certainly if nobody signed up for the elite/travel intensive programs, they would die off. However, it won't happen because the majority won't sacrifice the few years that Johnny has left in youth soccer to start this crusade. No amount of brow beating about suboptimal/irrational decisions will change that.

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Anonymous wrote:^ oh f@ck off Coach.

This needs to start. Us Youth soccer needs to be held accountable for what soccer has become. Too many barriers just to keep adults in business, making $ off of the backs of kids’ play.

They should be ashamed of themselves. USMNT will never win a World Cup. They made it just for the dumb elite. Smart elite see it for the joke it has become and wish to make a more rational, open system. But, then dumb elite’s kid wouldn’t be able to make the team.

When you say things like "US Youth Soccer needs to be held accountable" , I realize you don't understand the soccer landscape. Why them? They aren't responsible for either the ECNL or the DA leagues (the 2 big "offenders" ). That would be US Club Soccer and US Soccer respectively. Go learn about what is going on and why so when you post, you can at least say something meaningful.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap.

There are local leagues for your kid to play in already. Find the club, team and league that meets your family needs and be happy.

True but nonresponsive and irrelevant. This is a collective action problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem). If we could coordinate our actions before tryouts, you might see different, better, cheaper outcomes. Because we (and teams, and clubs, and leagues) cannot assume that others will act in rational self-interest, we each act stupidly and decrease collective welfare. So yes, we all maximize utility today, but no, we are not happy as we could be if we acted more rationally. Other people's suboptimal decisions raise barriers to better travel soccer because people need or want to get on jets to play teams that may not be as good as their neighboring clubs (and all neighboring clubs might all improve if we all agreed to stay home). This isn't hard to understand. But of course some people benefit from building barriers to participation. So things look pretty rational from their point of view.

Anonymous wrote:^ oh f@ck off Coach.

This needs to start. Us Youth soccer needs to be held accountable for what soccer has become. Too many barriers just to keep adults in business, making $ off of the backs of kids’ play.

They should be ashamed of themselves. USMNT will never win a World Cup. They made it just for the dumb elite. Smart elite see it for the joke it has become and wish to make a more rational, open system. But, then dumb elite’s kid wouldn’t be able to make the team.

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Anonymous wrote:^ no matter how good my kids are, they know I will never join something where every other weekend they are crossing multiple state borders. It's not happening.

There are too many decent players in the DMV for this sh*t to be happening. There needs to be a movement. Too many pissing matches between local clubs and leagues without the good of the kids/families involved.

Sign me up. We have the money, and my son may have the talent, but who needs to waste the time traveling when there are plenty of elite clubs that could play each other here. Leagues and club agendas are getting in the way of common sense. The other problem in this area (and forgive the regional elitism) is that a lot of these players in this area are really intelligent and don't need to play college soccer to go to a really good school and don't want to spend all of their time traveling for this crap.

There are local leagues for your kid to play in already. Find the club, team and league that meets your family needs and be happy.

True but nonresponsive and irrelevant. This is a collective action problem (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_action_problem). If we could coordinate our actions before tryouts, you might see different, better, cheaper outcomes. Because we (and teams, and clubs, and leagues) cannot assume that others will act in rational self-interest, we each act stupidly and decrease collective welfare. So yes, we all maximize utility today, but no, we are not happy as we could be if we acted more rationally. Other people's suboptimal decisions raise barriers to better travel soccer because people need or want to get on jets to play teams that may not be as good as their neighboring clubs (and all neighboring clubs might all improve if we all agreed to stay home). This isn't hard to understand. But of course some people benefit from building barriers to participation. So things look pretty rational from their point of view.

Anonymous wrote:We have a player who has been playing up 2 age groups for years, starts every match and is often one of the best on the field every game. Was competing for minutes and performing well for a U16 team when he was 12. Made varsity and started as a freshman. Whoever said there’s no reason for players to play up is asinine, and that kind of thinking holds back truly talented players who are actually on a higher level than their peers. If you’re good enough, you’re old enough.