Atlantic626
01/26/2020 00:21
Subject: Re:St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Only on page 4 but these post are terrible... SJC send students to top 15 colleges and majority to top 30. They are also a diverse school who's students are legacy at non-traditional schools (HBCUs). This is the same for DeMatha. SJC has invested a lot into their sports programs and there is no denying that. However, they have also invested a lot into technology and have a strong honors program and Benilde program. I doubt that the school's model is moving to IMG (whatever that is) because they value education and technology. When I was there, the founder of AOL, who was an alum, donated a computer lab. They have been building with strong alum for over a decade.
I am an alum
I am an alum
Anonymous
10/28/2019 15:57
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once again, SJC isn’t the Catholic school known for its academics. Not to say academics aren’t strong but they are now like DeMatha, athletic powerhouse.
So Dematha is one of the best private schools academically in the richest majority African-American counties in the world.
So clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about
Where does DeMatha rank when comparing all Catholic Schools in DMV?
Gonzaga, GC,STJ and Damatha are pretty much all the same except 2 are all boys.
Though Damatha has a better arts program than all of them and STJ has better science since Kinsey poured $$$ into that program.
Oh please. Gonzaga way above these other schools in terms of academics. Look at the college matriculations. No comparison.
No it’s not. They don’t offer better academics they just have more wealth.
Nice try...but truth be told, there is socioeconomic diversity at Gonzaga. That said, there are also the very wealthy. They help fund the tuition of those in need. My son was good friends with a kid from SW DC. The boy came out of Washington Jesuit Academy. I volunteered at the school with his mom. Salt of the earth. Loved Gonzaga.
Yes my family has been going to Gonzaga since the 30’s. It’s a great school. Saying Damatha is as good is not a knock on GZ. How much experience do you have with Damatha. It’s an amazing school.
It’s nit very Christian to be bashing a school you have no experience with. Are you new to the community?
WJS is awesome and my family is very involved thanks to the immense wealth at GZ they were able to create a great school to educate the athletes that eventually end up at GZ so they stop failing our... it is immensely successful.
But still GZ does not offer better academics than Damatha.
I will admit the extent of my experience with DeMatha is watching the exciting football games. But seriously, DeMatha, while a fine school, is not in the same academic realm as Gonzaga. Just look at the average SAT scores from each of these schools -- GZ 1300 SAT 30 ACT, DeMatha 1170 SAT, 25 ACT. That is a pretty a stark difference and if I were evaluating these two schools, those scores would certainly sway me to prefer GZ for my bright son.
So, what you are telling me is the academic offerings at a school are dependent on average SAT scores?
Really? Are you actually that obtuse?
What you are actually saying is that GZ is a better school because on average my kids will be friends with more white kids with higher test scores (aka SES level)
If you said, I like GZ better because on average the students are wealthier kids with more tutors and test prep we could agree.
But if you are saying GZ has better classes, better teachers, better science labs... well you would be wholly wrong.
So you judge a school on average SAT scores and football games... pathetic,
It’s okay just say 3 Hail Marys and 2 Our Father’s and you are all good to go.
Nope, I am saying that if a kid comes out of a high school with a higher SAT or ACT, he is likely getting a better education. And that is likely because they have better classes, teachers, science labs, etc. And, well, it's always nice to win football games, but that's not a requirement lol.
Research will show that you are wrong.
You sound very racist that you keep saying Damatha is only about football. Please stop representing yourself as a GZ family you are a complete embarrassment to our community.
Oh please. I said I don't know much about DeMatha beyond the football games--that was the extent of my comment. Hardly racist!
I think the PP was referring to the fact that GZ has been winning against DeMatha in the last couple of games, including the infamous WCAC championship last year....that was quite a game.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 15:24
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
I have boys who went to both Gonzaga and DeMatha. Overall, there is a much broader range of ability at DeMatha. There are very smart boys and rigorous honors/AP level classes. There are also kids who are academically average or below average, and there are courses leveled for them also. DeMatha is definitely more racially and economically diverse.
Gonzaga also has honors and AP courses, but their on-level courses are more rigorous than the average on level course at Gonzaga. The homework load is intense.
Both have great opportunities for smart kids. DeMatha has more for a kid who struggles academically. Both are very competitive in sports, DeMatha has an amazing music program, Gonzaga has a fabulous theater program.
Gonzaga also has honors and AP courses, but their on-level courses are more rigorous than the average on level course at Gonzaga. The homework load is intense.
Both have great opportunities for smart kids. DeMatha has more for a kid who struggles academically. Both are very competitive in sports, DeMatha has an amazing music program, Gonzaga has a fabulous theater program.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 14:53
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once again, SJC isn’t the Catholic school known for its academics. Not to say academics aren’t strong but they are now like DeMatha, athletic powerhouse.
So Dematha is one of the best private schools academically in the richest majority African-American counties in the world.
So clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about
Where does DeMatha rank when comparing all Catholic Schools in DMV?
Gonzaga, GC,STJ and Damatha are pretty much all the same except 2 are all boys.
Though Damatha has a better arts program than all of them and STJ has better science since Kinsey poured $$$ into that program.
Oh please. Gonzaga way above these other schools in terms of academics. Look at the college matriculations. No comparison.
No it’s not. They don’t offer better academics they just have more wealth.
Nice try...but truth be told, there is socioeconomic diversity at Gonzaga. That said, there are also the very wealthy. They help fund the tuition of those in need. My son was good friends with a kid from SW DC. The boy came out of Washington Jesuit Academy. I volunteered at the school with his mom. Salt of the earth. Loved Gonzaga.
Yes my family has been going to Gonzaga since the 30’s. It’s a great school. Saying Damatha is as good is not a knock on GZ. How much experience do you have with Damatha. It’s an amazing school.
It’s nit very Christian to be bashing a school you have no experience with. Are you new to the community?
WJS is awesome and my family is very involved thanks to the immense wealth at GZ they were able to create a great school to educate the athletes that eventually end up at GZ so they stop failing our... it is immensely successful.
But still GZ does not offer better academics than Damatha.
I will admit the extent of my experience with DeMatha is watching the exciting football games. But seriously, DeMatha, while a fine school, is not in the same academic realm as Gonzaga. Just look at the average SAT scores from each of these schools -- GZ 1300 SAT 30 ACT, DeMatha 1170 SAT, 25 ACT. That is a pretty a stark difference and if I were evaluating these two schools, those scores would certainly sway me to prefer GZ for my bright son.
So, what you are telling me is the academic offerings at a school are dependent on average SAT scores?
Really? Are you actually that obtuse?
What you are actually saying is that GZ is a better school because on average my kids will be friends with more white kids with higher test scores (aka SES level)
If you said, I like GZ better because on average the students are wealthier kids with more tutors and test prep we could agree.
But if you are saying GZ has better classes, better teachers, better science labs... well you would be wholly wrong.
So you judge a school on average SAT scores and football games... pathetic,
It’s okay just say 3 Hail Marys and 2 Our Father’s and you are all good to go.
Nope, I am saying that if a kid comes out of a high school with a higher SAT or ACT, he is likely getting a better education. And that is likely because they have better classes, teachers, science labs, etc. And, well, it's always nice to win football games, but that's not a requirement lol.
Research will show that you are wrong.
You sound very racist that you keep saying Damatha is only about football. Please stop representing yourself as a GZ family you are a complete embarrassment to our community.
Oh please. I said I don't know much about DeMatha beyond the football games--that was the extent of my comment. Hardly racist!
Anonymous
10/28/2019 14:48
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Nope, I am saying that if a kid comes out of a high school with a higher SAT or ACT, he is likely getting a better education. And that is likely because they have better classes, teachers, science labs, etc. And, well, it's always nice to win football games, but that's not a requirement lol.
This just shows that you do not really understand what the SAT and ACT measure. A better indicator of school quality would be student scores on comparable AP exams and SAT subject tests. But even that information would not be very useful, since you would need to know how each school determines eligibility for things like AP courses. If a school restricts entry into AP courses, their average scores are going to be higher than schools with more open policies. The population of students taking a test makes a big difference to the score distribution. That's why AP Human Geography has a much lower rate of 4s and 5s than AP Calculus BC. It's not because Calc BC is easier. It's because generally only very strong math students are taking Calc BC.
Really, there's no way to compare schools on the basis of outcomes unless you know a whole lot about the students as they are entering high school. Otherwise there's no way to tell what difference the high school has made. Kids who score very high on high school entrance exams are likely to be high scorers on the SAT and ACT, and probably also AP exams. And kids whose parents have the money to pay for SAT and ACT tutors are going to score higher than similar kids whose parents do not have that money.
I have to say once again that I disagree. When scores differ so significantly, it is a measure of the schools' level of instruction. If the majority of students score low on the ACT and SAT, then we can conclude that the the instruction in various classes would need to cater to that level of student. It doesn't make the instruction bad, it just means it might not be challenging enough for the a bright or gifted student. That is why Gonzaga is a "better" school for a more advanced student. With the regard to AP scores and SAT subject tests, you are correct that those scores would also be an indicator of quality of teaching. However, that data is not available to compare...unless I am missing something.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 13:52
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
DeMatha has changed over the last 10 years. All of my brothers went to DeMatha and the school they describe is no longer what it is. Not to say the academics are not strong but, the caliber of student they are willing to accept has changed. I personally know 3 boys who were all accepted last year that came from public school with a C average GPA. No extra-curricular activities other than sports. Low HSPT scores (40-50%). All three were accepted into DeMatha. No other school accepted them.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 13:03
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once again, SJC isn’t the Catholic school known for its academics. Not to say academics aren’t strong but they are now like DeMatha, athletic powerhouse.
So Dematha is one of the best private schools academically in the richest majority African-American counties in the world.
So clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about
Where does DeMatha rank when comparing all Catholic Schools in DMV?
Gonzaga, GC,STJ and Damatha are pretty much all the same except 2 are all boys.
Though Damatha has a better arts program than all of them and STJ has better science since Kinsey poured $$$ into that program.
Oh please. Gonzaga way above these other schools in terms of academics. Look at the college matriculations. No comparison.
No it’s not. They don’t offer better academics they just have more wealth.
Nice try...but truth be told, there is socioeconomic diversity at Gonzaga. That said, there are also the very wealthy. They help fund the tuition of those in need. My son was good friends with a kid from SW DC. The boy came out of Washington Jesuit Academy. I volunteered at the school with his mom. Salt of the earth. Loved Gonzaga.
Yes my family has been going to Gonzaga since the 30’s. It’s a great school. Saying Damatha is as good is not a knock on GZ. How much experience do you have with Damatha. It’s an amazing school.
It’s nit very Christian to be bashing a school you have no experience with. Are you new to the community?
WJS is awesome and my family is very involved thanks to the immense wealth at GZ they were able to create a great school to educate the athletes that eventually end up at GZ so they stop failing our... it is immensely successful.
But still GZ does not offer better academics than Damatha.
I will admit the extent of my experience with DeMatha is watching the exciting football games. But seriously, DeMatha, while a fine school, is not in the same academic realm as Gonzaga. Just look at the average SAT scores from each of these schools -- GZ 1300 SAT 30 ACT, DeMatha 1170 SAT, 25 ACT. That is a pretty a stark difference and if I were evaluating these two schools, those scores would certainly sway me to prefer GZ for my bright son.
So, what you are telling me is the academic offerings at a school are dependent on average SAT scores?
Really? Are you actually that obtuse?
What you are actually saying is that GZ is a better school because on average my kids will be friends with more white kids with higher test scores (aka SES level)
If you said, I like GZ better because on average the students are wealthier kids with more tutors and test prep we could agree.
But if you are saying GZ has better classes, better teachers, better science labs... well you would be wholly wrong.
So you judge a school on average SAT scores and football games... pathetic,
It’s okay just say 3 Hail Marys and 2 Our Father’s and you are all good to go.
Nope, I am saying that if a kid comes out of a high school with a higher SAT or ACT, he is likely getting a better education. And that is likely because they have better classes, teachers, science labs, etc. And, well, it's always nice to win football games, but that's not a requirement lol.
Research will show that you are wrong.
You sound very racist that you keep saying Damatha is only about football. Please stop representing yourself as a GZ family you are a complete embarrassment to our community.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 09:40
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:
Nope, I am saying that if a kid comes out of a high school with a higher SAT or ACT, he is likely getting a better education. And that is likely because they have better classes, teachers, science labs, etc. And, well, it's always nice to win football games, but that's not a requirement lol.
This just shows that you do not really understand what the SAT and ACT measure. A better indicator of school quality would be student scores on comparable AP exams and SAT subject tests. But even that information would not be very useful, since you would need to know how each school determines eligibility for things like AP courses. If a school restricts entry into AP courses, their average scores are going to be higher than schools with more open policies. The population of students taking a test makes a big difference to the score distribution. That's why AP Human Geography has a much lower rate of 4s and 5s than AP Calculus BC. It's not because Calc BC is easier. It's because generally only very strong math students are taking Calc BC.
Really, there's no way to compare schools on the basis of outcomes unless you know a whole lot about the students as they are entering high school. Otherwise there's no way to tell what difference the high school has made. Kids who score very high on high school entrance exams are likely to be high scorers on the SAT and ACT, and probably also AP exams. And kids whose parents have the money to pay for SAT and ACT tutors are going to score higher than similar kids whose parents do not have that money.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 09:10
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once again, SJC isn’t the Catholic school known for its academics. Not to say academics aren’t strong but they are now like DeMatha, athletic powerhouse.
So Dematha is one of the best private schools academically in the richest majority African-American counties in the world.
So clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about
Where does DeMatha rank when comparing all Catholic Schools in DMV?
Gonzaga, GC,STJ and Damatha are pretty much all the same except 2 are all boys.
Though Damatha has a better arts program than all of them and STJ has better science since Kinsey poured $$$ into that program.
Oh please. Gonzaga way above these other schools in terms of academics. Look at the college matriculations. No comparison.
No it’s not. They don’t offer better academics they just have more wealth.
Nice try...but truth be told, there is socioeconomic diversity at Gonzaga. That said, there are also the very wealthy. They help fund the tuition of those in need. My son was good friends with a kid from SW DC. The boy came out of Washington Jesuit Academy. I volunteered at the school with his mom. Salt of the earth. Loved Gonzaga.
Yes my family has been going to Gonzaga since the 30’s. It’s a great school. Saying Damatha is as good is not a knock on GZ. How much experience do you have with Damatha. It’s an amazing school.
It’s nit very Christian to be bashing a school you have no experience with. Are you new to the community?
WJS is awesome and my family is very involved thanks to the immense wealth at GZ they were able to create a great school to educate the athletes that eventually end up at GZ so they stop failing our... it is immensely successful.
But still GZ does not offer better academics than Damatha.
I will admit the extent of my experience with DeMatha is watching the exciting football games. But seriously, DeMatha, while a fine school, is not in the same academic realm as Gonzaga. Just look at the average SAT scores from each of these schools -- GZ 1300 SAT 30 ACT, DeMatha 1170 SAT, 25 ACT. That is a pretty a stark difference and if I were evaluating these two schools, those scores would certainly sway me to prefer GZ for my bright son.
So, what you are telling me is the academic offerings at a school are dependent on average SAT scores?
Really? Are you actually that obtuse?
What you are actually saying is that GZ is a better school because on average my kids will be friends with more white kids with higher test scores (aka SES level)
If you said, I like GZ better because on average the students are wealthier kids with more tutors and test prep we could agree.
But if you are saying GZ has better classes, better teachers, better science labs... well you would be wholly wrong.
So you judge a school on average SAT scores and football games... pathetic,
It’s okay just say 3 Hail Marys and 2 Our Father’s and you are all good to go.
Nope, I am saying that if a kid comes out of a high school with a higher SAT or ACT, he is likely getting a better education. And that is likely because they have better classes, teachers, science labs, etc. And, well, it's always nice to win football games, but that's not a requirement lol.
DP: I disagree with you. I don't have a kid at any of those four schools, but I do know for a fact that our oldest could skip high school altogether and nail the SAT test. Your high school education has very little to do with your SAT score; not nothing, but very little.
Oh Really? LOL. Congrats.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 09:08
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Once again, SJC isn’t the Catholic school known for its academics. Not to say academics aren’t strong but they are now like DeMatha, athletic powerhouse.
So Dematha is one of the best private schools academically in the richest majority African-American counties in the world.
So clearly you don’t know what you’re talking about
Where does DeMatha rank when comparing all Catholic Schools in DMV?
Gonzaga, GC,STJ and Damatha are pretty much all the same except 2 are all boys.
Though Damatha has a better arts program than all of them and STJ has better science since Kinsey poured $$$ into that program.
Oh please. Gonzaga way above these other schools in terms of academics. Look at the college matriculations. No comparison.
No it’s not. They don’t offer better academics they just have more wealth.
Nice try...but truth be told, there is socioeconomic diversity at Gonzaga. That said, there are also the very wealthy. They help fund the tuition of those in need. My son was good friends with a kid from SW DC. The boy came out of Washington Jesuit Academy. I volunteered at the school with his mom. Salt of the earth. Loved Gonzaga.
Yes my family has been going to Gonzaga since the 30’s. It’s a great school. Saying Damatha is as good is not a knock on GZ. How much experience do you have with Damatha. It’s an amazing school.
It’s nit very Christian to be bashing a school you have no experience with. Are you new to the community?
WJS is awesome and my family is very involved thanks to the immense wealth at GZ they were able to create a great school to educate the athletes that eventually end up at GZ so they stop failing our... it is immensely successful.
But still GZ does not offer better academics than Damatha.
I will admit the extent of my experience with DeMatha is watching the exciting football games. But seriously, DeMatha, while a fine school, is not in the same academic realm as Gonzaga. Just look at the average SAT scores from each of these schools -- GZ 1300 SAT 30 ACT, DeMatha 1170 SAT, 25 ACT. That is a pretty a stark difference and if I were evaluating these two schools, those scores would certainly sway me to prefer GZ for my bright son.
So, what you are telling me is the academic offerings at a school are dependent on average SAT scores?
Really? Are you actually that obtuse?
What you are actually saying is that GZ is a better school because on average my kids will be friends with more white kids with higher test scores (aka SES level)
If you said, I like GZ better because on average the students are wealthier kids with more tutors and test prep we could agree.
But if you are saying GZ has better classes, better teachers, better science labs... well you would be wholly wrong.
So you judge a school on average SAT scores and football games... pathetic,
It’s okay just say 3 Hail Marys and 2 Our Father’s and you are all good to go.
Nope, I am saying that if a kid comes out of a high school with a higher SAT or ACT, he is likely getting a better education. And that is likely because they have better classes, teachers, science labs, etc. And, well, it's always nice to win football games, but that's not a requirement lol.
DP: I disagree with you. I don't have a kid at any of those four schools, but I do know for a fact that our oldest could skip high school altogether and nail the SAT test. Your high school education has very little to do with your SAT score; not nothing, but very little.
Anonymous
10/28/2019 08:32
Subject: St. John’s Open House On Sunday
Anonymous wrote:You realize schools pay to get on niche right? It’s a scam.
No they don't.