Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 14:09     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Our schools are bad because we have poor people = MCPS.

Yeah. You're right on brand with HoCo and the rest of MD at this point.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 14:07     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:To ^ FCPS poster -- FCPS has lower FARMS rate compared to MCPS, and FCPS is larger. TJ is a WHOLE school magnet vs Blair having only top 100 kids in the entire county.

Please try to understand how that impacts the hard numbers, and then take a look at the numbers for ALL of FCPS compared to ALL of MCPS. Then look at proportional rate, and come back and post. Thanks.


Right: so if TJ can teach 423, where half preferentially choose to go to UVA (which let's be clear, is a fantastic school) and we have say, 200 kids mucking around and we're still sending 79 of them to HYPS, let's to the math. (Because let's be honest, lots of parents send their kids to TJ so that they can go to UVA. It's a preferred choice.)

79/200 = 39.5%
21/100 = 21%

Wait, so we are sending 50% more to HYPS. Huh.

Overall HYPS Stats:

Ballpark numbers, because really... you're can't do it yourselves. How typical.

FCPS = 58K kids. MCPS = 48K kids.

We have 20% more kids than you. We send about 10% more than you to HYPS. Big whoop. I explain below.

You argue you have more FARMS. That means that you are arguing that your kids are inherently struggling to even get to the level of us because they are poorer. Dudes. That's the most sick racist thing I have ever heard. Why?

Because MCPS spends 2.68 billion and FCPS spends 3.0 billion. Meaning for our 20% increase in kids, we are still spendng proportionally less than you, by about 10%.. We are doing more with our money than you are. And you pay a higher tax rate than we do.

Wow. You're arguing over a 10% deviation of HYPS when we spend less than you, we have more kids, and even if our FARMs rate is lower, we still have a #4 school and and we have 4 schools nationally ranked over your two. We have a 50% proportional national success rate over all of your schools. And we do it with less proportional money to our kids, and more kids, and less taxes.

*slow clap* You guys totally get gold stars for participation!

FCPS school system is better because we can do more with less and we keep attracting UMC families.

Such. A. Joy. You guys give me life.

50% more schools in the top 200 of US News.
50% more HYPS when adjusted for preferential UVA enrollment.
Less money for our kids for more competitive education.
More ISEF, Science Bowl winners.
No rapists or sexual harassers.

B-Liar has really brainwashed you guys. It's quite adorable.

MADE. MY. DAY!
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 11:55     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:To ^ FCPS poster -- FCPS has lower FARMS rate compared to MCPS, and FCPS is larger. TJ is a WHOLE school magnet vs Blair having only top 100 kids in the entire county.

Please try to understand how that impacts the hard numbers, and then take a look at the numbers for ALL of FCPS compared to ALL of MCPS. Then look at proportional rate, and come back and post. Thanks.


Just stop replying...it just eggs them on.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 11:54     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
You should learn a bit more about the program. Magnet kids take magnet math classes which are more intense than APs. In the latest profile 84 students took the Math SAT II and the average score was 788. Out of 78 kids taking the AP Calc BC exam (because they take the test even though they don't take the AP class) 68 got 5's. I really have not put much time into the TJ/Blair competition but this thread trying to compare a whole school magnet to a 100 kid program is idiotic. And this line about AP classes...


Post links vs. just spouting stuff. And cite specific instances. Because I really think you're just making stuff up.

Magnet classes are great, but they don't give metrics for that in US News or Great Schools. So you can tout the "better" classes, but it doesn't make the rankings higher if they can't be normalized in a rating.

And I get that people are upset to even compared B-Liar to TJ, but let's be clear: your school is still at #1064. You haven't provided arguments, just opinions on why it's better, and you can't give a sufficient reason why it's ranked so low other than it's being ratioed. If it was a great school, it wouldn't be failing so many of its kids-- in fact, it would at least have a 90+ graduation rate. (But it doesn't! Shocker!). It would be an overall great school and not just a great school for 100 kids.

TJ still has more ISEF winners, science bowl winners, more kids that go the HYPS, and more graduates than TJ, more kids that take the AP exam, and higher test scores. And I get it: you are focused on the rate-- you can't compare it to a school that has only 100 smart kids! (Wait, so a school should only focus on the smart kids and let the other ones fail? Really?!?!?!) But if the overall quality of the school is lacking, the magnet program isn't going to attract parents. Because parents look at the ranking, which is the RATE of which the kids are failing.

And for the record: I understand rate vs. hard numbers. That's why I post the rankings. Because those are based on rates, statistically plotted and analyzed by pros. And as none of you can explain why your schools still fall way behind ours, I'm thinking that you only want to cherry pick rates when it suits you... vs. looking at the data plotted by US News.

But it's so fun to watch you guys get your panties in a bunch and calling me an idiot and a moron. It just gives me so much joy to see you angry you get... like little toddlers being told they can't get candy. Gold stars for all you special guys! Name calling is what I like to call the winner's treat on DCUM. It's when I know that I'm right and you know it too... and have to deal with your number issues.

Also: B-Liar's football coached raped a 16 year old and it's award winning math teacher harrassed his female students for decades, so let's not forget that gem.

Go B-Liar!


Here is a link for you.. https://mbhs.edu/departments/counseling/MagnetProfile.pdf As long as you continue to compare the entire non-competitive 3000 student public high school to your competitive whole school magnet your posts will be inaccurate.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 11:24     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
To ^ FCPS poster -- FCPS has lower FARMS rate compared to MCPS, and FCPS is larger. TJ is a WHOLE school magnet vs Blair having only top 100 kids in the entire county.

Please try to understand how that impacts the hard numbers, and then take a look at the numbers for ALL of FCPS compared to ALL of MCPS. Then look at proportional rate, and come back and post. Thanks.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 11:18     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
You should learn a bit more about the program. Magnet kids take magnet math classes which are more intense than APs. In the latest profile 84 students took the Math SAT II and the average score was 788. Out of 78 kids taking the AP Calc BC exam (because they take the test even though they don't take the AP class) 68 got 5's. I really have not put much time into the TJ/Blair competition but this thread trying to compare a whole school magnet to a 100 kid program is idiotic. And this line about AP classes...


Post links vs. just spouting stuff. And cite specific instances. Because I really think you're just making stuff up.

Magnet classes are great, but they don't give metrics for that in US News or Great Schools. So you can tout the "better" classes, but it doesn't make the rankings higher if they can't be normalized in a rating.

And I get that people are upset to even compared B-Liar to TJ, but let's be clear: your school is still at #1064. You haven't provided arguments, just opinions on why it's better, and you can't give a sufficient reason why it's ranked so low other than it's being ratioed. If it was a great school, it wouldn't be failing so many of its kids-- in fact, it would at least have a 90+ graduation rate. (But it doesn't! Shocker!). It would be an overall great school and not just a great school for 100 kids.

TJ still has more ISEF winners, science bowl winners, more kids that go the HYPS, and more graduates than TJ, more kids that take the AP exam, and higher test scores. And I get it: you are focused on the rate-- you can't compare it to a school that has only 100 smart kids! (Wait, so a school should only focus on the smart kids and let the other ones fail? Really?!?!?!) But if the overall quality of the school is lacking, the magnet program isn't going to attract parents. Because parents look at the ranking, which is the RATE of which the kids are failing.

And for the record: I understand rate vs. hard numbers. That's why I post the rankings. Because those are based on rates, statistically plotted and analyzed by pros. And as none of you can explain why your schools still fall way behind ours, I'm thinking that you only want to cherry pick rates when it suits you... vs. looking at the data plotted by US News.

But it's so fun to watch you guys get your panties in a bunch and calling me an idiot and a moron. It just gives me so much joy to see you angry you get... like little toddlers being told they can't get candy. Gold stars for all you special guys! Name calling is what I like to call the winner's treat on DCUM. It's when I know that I'm right and you know it too... and have to deal with your number issues.

Also: B-Liar's football coached raped a 16 year old and it's award winning math teacher harrassed his female students for decades, so let's not forget that gem.

Go B-Liar!
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 08:54     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
The FCPS poster who keeps insisting that FCPS sends more kids to HYP or whatever school is a moron, and you don't understand proportional rate vs hard numbers. You obviously didn't go to TJ.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 06:28     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^^

Because you can’t.

But keep calling me stupid. That’s what really smart people resort to.

It's because I won't lower myself to your level.
Your posts showed that you're stupid and ignorant. For example, you said:


Nah, you can't rise to it.



MCPS is losing new blood to FCPS- because of our schools that test higher at SOLs than your CC 

Of course FCPS do... because MCPS doesn't do SOL. How dumb can you be?
Whatever CC is, it's different from SOL.


Actually, it's on par, and your state average is about 44%, with Blair scoring around 51% in English.
Blair scores at 8% in Algebra 1 compared to a state average of 36%.

But if we want to normalize the test scores, let's look at AP tests.
Blair kids only have 2% taking AP Math and Science. Tell me something: if we're going you have 100 out of 625 kids in the Blair magnet, why is only 2% of your class taking AP Math? Shouldn't it just be on par with the rest of MD at about 6%? 16% of your class is magnet: it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that they are just not doing it.

Compared to TJ with a 36% Math AP course participation and a 26% Science AP course participation: you guys are doing <10% of what we are doing here. *slow clap*

Spouting off nonsense does not equal a rebuttal. Your Blair kids are failing nationally. They just aren't that smart. Just like you, huh?


Also: you never address the arguments about population growth. If this was a term paper, you'd fail.


it doesn’t win science bowl,

A simple Google search could have told you that's false.
But you're too stupid to even to a search before making a fool out of yourself.


You mean how TJ has won 4 and Blair has won 2? Please. Google and READ more deeply vs. just making claims without proof.





At least one of the posters actually posted links with arguments. And that person isn’t you

You have just responded to my link about regeneron-sts( which you were clueless about)and then you made the idiotic comment above. Really? Selective memory?

All your posts are full of idiotic comments and cluelessness.

You're not only dumb and ignorant but judging from your posts, you're probably mentally unstable.

It would be an exercise in futility to keep arguing with you.
TJ and FCPS must be proud of you.


Blair is falling way behind compared to its peers in its magnet program. It is a science magnet program, but only 2% of its kids take math or science AP courses. MD State Average is 6%. With a 16% of its class being genius level as you claim in STEM, it should be at least 6%. But it's not.



You should learn a bit more about the program. Magnet kids take magnet math classes which are more intense than APs. In the latest profile 84 students took the Math SAT II and the average score was 788. Out of 78 kids taking the AP Calc BC exam (because they take the test even though they don't take the AP class) 68 got 5's. I really have not put much time into the TJ/Blair competition but this thread trying to compare a whole school magnet to a 100 kid program is idiotic. And this line about AP classes...
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 02:12     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
And one more, because it's just too easy:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/police-fire/montgomery-blair-high-school-substitute-teacher-charged-with-sexually-abusing-student/

Go Blair!
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 02:04     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^^^

Because you can’t.

But keep calling me stupid. That’s what really smart people resort to.

It's because I won't lower myself to your level.
Your posts showed that you're stupid and ignorant. For example, you said:


Nah, you can't rise to it.



MCPS is losing new blood to FCPS- because of our schools that test higher at SOLs than your CC 

Of course FCPS do... because MCPS doesn't do SOL. How dumb can you be?
Whatever CC is, it's different from SOL.


Actually, it's on par, and your state average is about 44%, with Blair scoring around 51% in English.
Blair scores at 8% in Algebra 1 compared to a state average of 36%.

But if we want to normalize the test scores, let's look at AP tests.
Blair kids only have 2% taking AP Math and Science. Tell me something: if we're going you have 100 out of 625 kids in the Blair magnet, why is only 2% of your class taking AP Math? Shouldn't it just be on par with the rest of MD at about 6%? 16% of your class is magnet: it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that they are just not doing it.

Compared to TJ with a 36% Math AP course participation and a 26% Science AP course participation: you guys are doing <10% of what we are doing here. *slow clap*

Spouting off nonsense does not equal a rebuttal. Your Blair kids are failing nationally. They just aren't that smart. Just like you, huh?


Also: you never address the arguments about population growth. If this was a term paper, you'd fail.


it doesn’t win science bowl,

A simple Google search could have told you that's false.
But you're too stupid to even to a search before making a fool out of yourself.


You mean how TJ has won 4 and Blair has won 2? Please. Google and READ more deeply vs. just making claims without proof.





At least one of the posters actually posted links with arguments. And that person isn’t you

You have just responded to my link about regeneron-sts( which you were clueless about)and then you made the idiotic comment above. Really? Selective memory?

All your posts are full of idiotic comments and cluelessness.

You're not only dumb and ignorant but judging from your posts, you're probably mentally unstable.

It would be an exercise in futility to keep arguing with you.
TJ and FCPS must be proud of you.


Blair is falling way behind compared to its peers in its magnet program. It is a science magnet program, but only 2% of its kids take math or science AP courses. MD State Average is 6%. With a 16% of its class being genius level as you claim in STEM, it should be at least 6%. But it's not.

As for Regeneron: you keep grasping it like it's the only metric. It's not, and of how you can't seem to provide enough evidence or support for your statements, it's really getting fun to post links about how horrible Blair is. Because there is just so much stuff to point to, like this gem:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/blair-alumni-accuse-renowned-math-teacher-of-years-of-harassing-behavior/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/in-a-prestigious-high-school-math-and-science-program-alumni-say-metoo/2018/03/01/b17f68ac-f1b6-11e7-b390-a36dc3fa2842_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/students-should-matter-more-than-teaching-awards/2018/03/06/33f547be-1e50-11e8-98f5-ceecfa8741b6_story.html

Your teachers are so great that alumni are generating responses about how they reported this guy for years and nothing with done and then he retired.

Wow. Just Wow. Tried to look for that at TJ, but it was just someone stealing money from them, not making 4 decades of kids uncomfortable.

I found arguing with you to be quite relaxing, actually. It's like rebutting a first year attorney in traffic court. You don't give sufficient evidence to prove your claims. Ergo, you have a prima facie fallacy of logic when it comes to defending your alma mater. But good luck with sending your kids there. I'm sure they're happy with mediocrity, poverty, and harassment in Silver Spring.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 01:30     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ISEF has essentially dominated the science competition globally for a few years now. It’s a global competition vs Regeneron’s national level competition. It gives $2 million more in prizes. Hence the movie and the increased number of sponsorships.

Regeneron is the 10th company to sponsor the old Westinghouse competition. It’s still very competitive, but as the MIT undergrad posted in Quorp: it shouldn’t be considered the country’s foremost competition. But unlike Regeneron, ISEF didn’t get dropped by Intel years ago for bias and incompetence. It may get dropped now, but the argument that Regeneron is that of the past holds true if you look at the amount of cash prizes and global vs national level aspects of it.

https://www.quora.com/Are-competitions-like-Regeneron-STS-Siemens-and-Olympiads-unfair-Are-they-more-indicative-of-privilege-and-parental-involvement-than-actual-STEM-talent



You know this is someone's opinion, right?
Do you know that Intel is dropping ISEF next year, right?
Did you see where the person said all the Science fairs/competitions, including ISEF, should be dropped?
In fact did you actually read and understood what he was saying?

Wow! Just wow


You saw where he mentioned Regeneron first, right? As the prime example of what is wrong with science fairs, and that Intel dropped it for that very reason?

And you saw that it dropped it before it dropped ISEF because it's so mediocre now?

And that Regeneron gives out fewer prizes and has only a national clout over ISEF's international competition?

RIGHT.

Keep digging troll.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 00:37     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:ISEF has essentially dominated the science competition globally for a few years now. It’s a global competition vs Regeneron’s national level competition. It gives $2 million more in prizes. Hence the movie and the increased number of sponsorships.

Regeneron is the 10th company to sponsor the old Westinghouse competition. It’s still very competitive, but as the MIT undergrad posted in Quorp: it shouldn’t be considered the country’s foremost competition. But unlike Regeneron, ISEF didn’t get dropped by Intel years ago for bias and incompetence. It may get dropped now, but the argument that Regeneron is that of the past holds true if you look at the amount of cash prizes and global vs national level aspects of it.

https://www.quora.com/Are-competitions-like-Regeneron-STS-Siemens-and-Olympiads-unfair-Are-they-more-indicative-of-privilege-and-parental-involvement-than-actual-STEM-talent



You know this is someone's opinion, right?
Do you know that Intel is dropping ISEF next year, right?
Did you see where the person said all the Science fairs/competitions, including ISEF, should be dropped?
In fact did you actually read and understood what he was saying?

Wow! Just wow
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2019 00:20     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
Anonymous wrote:^^^^

Because you can’t.

But keep calling me stupid. That’s what really smart people resort to.

It's because I won't lower myself to your level.
Your posts showed that you're stupid and ignorant. For example, you said:

MCPS is losing new blood to FCPS- because of our schools that test higher at SOLs than your CC 

Of course FCPS do... because MCPS doesn't do SOL. How dumb can you be?
Whatever CC is, it's different from SOL.

it doesn’t win science bowl,

A simple Google search could have told you that's false.
But you're too stupid to even to a search before making a fool out of yourself.

At least one of the posters actually posted links with arguments. And that person isn’t you

You have just responded to my link about regeneron-sts( which you were clueless about)and then you made the idiotic comment above. Really? Selective memory?

All your posts are full of idiotic comments and cluelessness.

You're not only dumb and ignorant but judging from your posts, you're probably mentally unstable.

It would be an exercise in futility to keep arguing with you.
TJ and FCPS must be proud of you.
Anonymous
Post 10/27/2019 23:09     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
ISEF has essentially dominated the science competition globally for a few years now. It’s a global competition vs Regeneron’s national level competition. It gives $2 million more in prizes. Hence the movie and the increased number of sponsorships.

Regeneron is the 10th company to sponsor the old Westinghouse competition. It’s still very competitive, but as the MIT undergrad posted in Quorp: it shouldn’t be considered the country’s foremost competition. But unlike Regeneron, ISEF didn’t get dropped by Intel years ago for bias and incompetence. It may get dropped now, but the argument that Regeneron is that of the past holds true if you look at the amount of cash prizes and global vs national level aspects of it.

https://www.quora.com/Are-competitions-like-Regeneron-STS-Siemens-and-Olympiads-unfair-Are-they-more-indicative-of-privilege-and-parental-involvement-than-actual-STEM-talent


Anonymous
Post 10/27/2019 22:50     Subject: MCPS v FCPS?
FCPS lists reasons schools are great and how B-lair isn’t.

MCPS calls person an imbecile and gives up.

This should basically be the defining reason as to avoid MCPS. The parents can’t argue their way out of an “imbecile’s” post. They just call people names.

Sounds about right.