Anonymous wrote:Two words

Brett Kavanaugh

Precisely. Brett was by all accounts a social "bro" who apparently could party his way to a 4.0 GPA. Every top university has "Kavanaugh" overachievers with top grades, connections AND social skills vying for internships, grad school and full-time offers.

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Anonymous wrote:Parents of slacker kids love to cling to the delusional outlook that their low-achieving kids are sooooo charismatic when one, they're almost always not, and two, there are plenty of kids who are both charismatic AND high-achieving. What a sad, retrograde and ignorant outlook on not only professional recruiting but life in general to suggest being lazy somehow implies a superior personality. The opposite is almost always true; competitive, high-achieving kids put much more time into polishing their appearance and soft skills. There are too many honors students at top colleges vying for good internship and job offers—there is no point in wasting time entertaining low-achieving kids.

Yeah, I must say that the "kids who get Cs are way more smart and successful than the stupid, grubber LOSERS with good grades!!!" thing is one of the dumbest internet tropes there is.

Strawman. No one is making that claim.

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Parents of slacker kids love to cling to the delusional outlook that their low-achieving kids are sooooo charismatic when one, they're almost always not, and two, there are plenty of kids who are both charismatic AND high-achieving. What a sad, retrograde and ignorant outlook on not only professional recruiting but life in general to suggest being lazy somehow implies a superior personality. The opposite is almost always true; competitive, high-achieving kids put much more time into polishing their appearance and soft skills. There are too many honors students at top colleges vying for good internship and job offers—there is no point in wasting time entertaining low-achieving kids."


To whoever printed the above words. Steve Jobs mother if she was still alive would completely disagree. Or the chef that owns Rose's Luxury Restaurant in DC, his mother would not agree.

Oh please ,"top kids vying for good internships & job offers"

Neighbors kids Stanford 4.0 gpa International Relations major, Fulbright scholar, took years to find "a job" has been out of school for few years. Interviewing not her thing, ie administrative assistant. Her sibling went to an extremely small school loved playing video games not great grades. Think 2.1 gpa. Doing perfectly fine at his job with Google. By the way his school you would never have considered for your perfect kids.

Your post is ridiculous. Seriously, college is college it's what you do with your career is what makes you. Do some colleges have better connections, yes of course. Can a kid go to a school and make it without those. Totally. Especially in IT...

Go online check out companies your DC might want to work for and look at the bio's of the CEO's or CTO's their college educations are from all over not all IVY league.

Can your kid hold a job? Can they learn at their job? Can they write a decent email? Those are life skills, college is just a holding place...

C's get degrees. Your diploma from Yale or Harvard or Michigan or UVA is the same as the person sitting next to you with the 4.0 gpa. Would I have my kids strive for C's of course not, but some are not great test takers. It happens.

Anonymous wrote:Parents of slacker kids love to cling to the delusional outlook that their low-achieving kids are sooooo charismatic when one, they're almost always not, and two, there are plenty of kids who are both charismatic AND high-achieving. What a sad, retrograde and ignorant outlook on not only professional recruiting but life in general to suggest being lazy somehow implies a superior personality. The opposite is almost always true; competitive, high-achieving kids put much more time into polishing their appearance and soft skills. There are too many honors students at top colleges vying for good internship and job offers—there is no point in wasting time entertaining low-achieving kids.

Yeah, I must say that the "kids who get Cs are way more smart and successful than the stupid, grubber LOSERS with good grades!!!" thing is one of the dumbest internet tropes there is.

Two words

Brett Kavanaugh

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Anonymous wrote:Assuming they are healthy, no LD, and no trauma (ex. sexual assault, psychological episode).

Is it still true Cs gets degrees (and decent careers), or have times changed with global economy, STEM importance, and over 50% of young people now earning degrees? Or is college now too expensive to waste on a teen who is not taking it seriously?

Either way, please try to share your mindset.

Is your kid a white male? They have more leeway in society to be idiots and still succeed.

No way, opposite and I am not a white male

Anonymous wrote:As long as he is passing, sure. Some of the biggest slackers at my school went on to graduate school and make a great living today.

This was me in my first year of college, barely got through and my mother threatened to make me come home and attend CC. I started to bloom late sophomore year. I got into a top law school and have a successful law career. I was never a stellar student. I had to work super hard to get an A or B. I don’t pressure my kids, just encourage them to do their best. They’ll be fine and so will your child, OP.

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Anonymous wrote:C's get degrees.

At VT and probably plenty of other schools C- in science gets you 1 chance at a retake and then kicked out of your major.
Do employers really not ask about GPA?

Good reason not to do stem there... odds are too high of getting booted out.

Why does everyone want college grades to matter so much? It’s not high school, people. Thank god

Anonymous wrote:Assuming they are healthy, no LD, and no trauma (ex. sexual assault, psychological episode).

Is it still true Cs gets degrees (and decent careers), or have times changed with global economy, STEM importance, and over 50% of young people now earning degrees? Or is college now too expensive to waste on a teen who is not taking it seriously?

Either way, please try to share your mindset.

Is your kid a white male? They have more leeway in society to be idiots and still succeed.

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Anonymous wrote:If it was a financial strain, I’d bring them home to a cheaper school. But otherwise, I’d leave them be. I started as a C student due to a lot of issues, some my fault, but ended up on Dean’s list and won undergrad research grants as well as a full ride to grad school.

As the mom of a kid who survived his freshman engineering year, but not with flying colors, posts like this make me smile.

Engineering (inc. computer science) and accounting are unique, highly-marketable credentials no matter the GPA.

Yes google, FB and amazon are clamoring to hire sub 3.0 GPA grads.

The partner I worked for at one of the big firms was okay with hiring kids with lower grades because they would accept a much lower salary.

Anonymous wrote:C's get degrees.

At VT and probably plenty of other schools C- in science gets you 1 chance at a retake and then kicked out of your major.
Do employers really not ask about GPA?

Anonymous wrote:Why would their GPA matter? When was the last time that it mattered for you, OP?

Summer internship recruiting
Research
Selective undergraduate clubs
Scholarships
Grad school (maybe decide to go after career gets going)
Full-time job recruiting

Parents of slacker kids love to cling to the delusional outlook that their low-achieving kids are sooooo charismatic when one, they're almost always not, and two, there are plenty of kids who are both charismatic AND high-achieving. What a sad, retrograde and ignorant outlook on not only professional recruiting but life in general to suggest being lazy somehow implies a superior personality. The opposite is almost always true; competitive, high-achieving kids put much more time into polishing their appearance and soft skills. There are too many honors students at top colleges vying for good internship and job offers—there is no point in wasting time entertaining low-achieving kids.

There is a point in life where grades stop mattering. This happens when you enter your professional career. The most important thing is WHERE you went college. Not how well you did in it. Interestingly, when you see it this way, your high school grades matter more. Are there exceptions? yes. As we mentioned, graduate school is an exception.

Here is what matters more than grades:
reputation of college
connections
job/internship experience
reputation/work ethic
personality and charisma
skills