Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:54
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:[...]Do none of you ask yourself why NONE of these issues were ever brought up by anyone during the MULTIPLE background investigations that he has gone through previously, during his professional career? So all of these accusers were perfectly OK with him sitting on the Court of Appeals, but once they thought he was a threat to Roe (which he is not), all of the sudden he is this monster? Please.
Good god, Cletus. We talked this to death when it was brought up a year ago. You don’t know anything about background checks, do you? Here’s how it goes, at least the relevant to your point missing part here: you provide all of your past addresses from x many years prior - dorms, apartments, etc - and a person who knew you at that time and can verify questions they ask.
As Bretty did not provide the names of his victims as a reference, it didn’t come up. Do you understand? If he didn’t bring it up, no one was going to bring it up.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:53
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
All this about a drunk college kid dropping his pants? Admit it, you all don’t really care that much about this, do you? You just don’t care for his politics and you’ll use any measure to get your way.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:51
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:this time they come from a man who says he saw kavanaugh shove his penis into a womaj’s face at a college party
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/461436-kavanaugh-accused-of-more-unwanted-sexual-contact-by-former
“Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was hit with another accusation of unwanted sexual contact by a male classmate who said he witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself and press his genitals against a woman without her consent.
The New York Times reported Saturday that the latest allegation, which has until not been public, was reported to the FBI during Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation process last year but was not investigated by the FBI.
In the Times report, two FBI officials told the newspaper that a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh's, D.C.-based nonprofit owner Max Stier, said that he had witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself at a party before other students pushed Kavanaugh's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent.
The Hill has reached out to the Supreme Court for comment.”
Ok, let me get this straight....
1) BK exposed himself at a party.
2) Other students "pushed" BK's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent
So, the other students somehow managed to "push" his genitals into the open (I'm assuming) hand of a girl without her consent? She was standing there, right next to BK, with her hand open in just the right spot so that others could "push" his junk into her hand?
Then, he told the FBI but did not tell any of the Dem senators who were like heat seeking missiles, looking for anything to pin on him?
He literally couldn’t keep it in his pants. This is 100% on the dirtbag with his pants unzipped.
Well... if you believe a 30+ year old allegation by a guy who may or may not have witnessed this. Obviously, you do. I’m extremely skeptical it happened at all.
-DP
We know. We know you never believe any woman. There’s never a woman who you believe no matter how small or how big the charge (unless she accused a Democrat - suddenly you guys are convinced, curiously. But I have them suspicion that you don’t really believe those women, you just hate Democrats). Even when you’re women and you’ve had gropes, crude remarks and rapes of your own. Your POV is patriarchy and misogyny wrapped up in sadistic little package meant to look reasonable.
Stop your obsession with misogyny and patriarchy. All women do not have photography memories. Women do not always recall events of decades ago clearly. Women are not always motivated by your interpretation of noble causes. Just as Ford and Katz were motivated to save Roe v Wade by keeping Kavanaugh off SCOTUS, the NYT has an interest in garnering publicity for a book authored by a female reporter.
See? You believe no woman. In fact, with no evidence whatsoever, you accuse these two accusers of making this up for political reasons, which strikes me as more Republicurd projection but proves my point. You don’t believe women ever, full stop. Even when one of the women has 25 witnesses. It’s not about “photography memories,” whatever that might be, it’s about the fact that sexual assault is pervasive in our culture, pretty commonplace even, and people like you deny it exists.
And I’m about as obsessed with patriarchy and misogyny as I am with the weather. All three things exist.
I absolutely do not believe every man and every woman who accusers another person of anything. Neither do I believe every person who's accused. People lie for all kinds of reasons.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:49
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Aren’t there 94 judges on the court of appeals?
In any case the media hardly covers nominations.
Equating it with scotus is nonsense.
It's not equating it with scotus to point out that these accusations of terrible behavior that could impact his ability to serve as a judge weren't brought up to public scrutiny before.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:45
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These stories will forever circulate. This is why creepy men (or women if any) shouldn’t be SC judges. He is making everyone look bad.
No, this whole story is evidence that we not allow the well-funded and well-organized groups who are opposed to the nominee of a Republican president to derail the nomination of a highly qualified and exemplary candidate.
We have let it happen before. No more. We learned our lesson.
Gorsuch did not have this problem because he was highly qualified and exemplary.
+1.
First, for those of you who don’t read, they are actually discussing two instances of exposing himself to women. Ramirez and Stier. Neither were investigated because the FBI was told not.
Second, do none of you ask yourself why Beer Boy has all these allegations against him and Gorsuch has none? Same president. Same Senate. Similar backgrounds and judicial philosophies. Could it be that Gorsuch can keep it in his pants and Beer Boy can’t?
No, because Gorsuch was simply filling Scalia's seat....thus, no perceived threat to Roe. Any conservative judge nominated to fill Kennedy's swing vote seat, would have gone through the same crap as Kavanaugh did.
Do none of you ask yourself why NONE of these issues were ever brought up by anyone during the MULTIPLE background investigations that he has gone through previously, during his professional career? So all of these accusers were perfectly OK with him sitting on the Court of Appeals, but once they thought he was a threat to Roe (which he is not), all of the sudden he is this monster? Please.
+1 Those other posters don't care about those facts--only their efforts to vilify him.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:35
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Aren’t there 94 judges on the court of appeals?
In any case the media hardly covers nominations.
Equating it with scotus is nonsense.
In any case the media hardly covers nominations.
Equating it with scotus is nonsense.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:20
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These stories will forever circulate. This is why creepy men (or women if any) shouldn’t be SC judges. He is making everyone look bad.
No, this whole story is evidence that we not allow the well-funded and well-organized groups who are opposed to the nominee of a Republican president to derail the nomination of a highly qualified and exemplary candidate.
We have let it happen before. No more. We learned our lesson.
Gorsuch did not have this problem because he was highly qualified and exemplary.
+1.
First, for those of you who don’t read, they are actually discussing two instances of exposing himself to women. Ramirez and Stier. Neither were investigated because the FBI was told not.
Second, do none of you ask yourself why Beer Boy has all these allegations against him and Gorsuch has none? Same president. Same Senate. Similar backgrounds and judicial philosophies. Could it be that Gorsuch can keep it in his pants and Beer Boy can’t?
No, because Gorsuch was simply filling Scalia's seat....thus, no perceived threat to Roe. Any conservative judge nominated to fill Kennedy's swing vote seat, would have gone through the same crap as Kavanaugh did.
Do none of you ask yourself why NONE of these issues were ever brought up by anyone during the MULTIPLE background investigations that he has gone through previously, during his professional career? So all of these accusers were perfectly OK with him sitting on the Court of Appeals, but once they thought he was a threat to Roe (which he is not), all of the sudden he is this monster? Please.
Gorsuch was filling Garland’s seat and when they prove that McConnell knew Russia was working on the GOP’s behalf, Gorsuch should be impeached, too.
But that’s not germane to this convo. Pervy Brett’s gross behavior is.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:13
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
[b]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These stories will forever circulate. This is why creepy men (or women if any) shouldn’t be SC judges. He is making everyone look bad.
No, this whole story is evidence that we not allow the well-funded and well-organized groups who are opposed to the nominee of a Republican president to derail the nomination of a highly qualified and exemplary candidate.
We have let it happen before. No more. We learned our lesson.
Gorsuch did not have this problem because he was highly qualified and exemplary.
+1.
First, for those of you who don’t read, they are actually discussing two instances of exposing himself to women. Ramirez and Stier. Neither were investigated because the FBI was told not.
Second, do none of you ask yourself why Beer Boy has all these allegations against him and Gorsuch has none? Same president. Same Senate. Similar backgrounds and judicial philosophies. Could it be that Gorsuch can keep it in his pants and Beer Boy can’t?
[i]
No, because Gorsuch was simply filling Scalia's seat....thus, no perceived threat to Roe. Any conservative judge nominated to fill Kennedy's swing vote seat, would have gone through the same crap as Kavanaugh did.
Do none of you ask yourself why NONE of these issues were ever brought up by anyone during the MULTIPLE background investigations that he has gone through previously, during his professional career? So all of these accusers were perfectly OK with him sitting on the Court of Appeals, but once they thought he was a threat to Roe (which he is not), all of the sudden he is this monster? Please.
First, he IS a threat to Roe. But second, to think all these women just made this up in a well coordinated attack because it is a swing seat? No way. I wish the left were that organized, then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
These are multiple allegations over multiple decades, with many witnesses. There should have been a thorough investigation that probably would be wrapping up NOW, but then the GOP couldn't have pushed through dear old Brett with Trump as an albatross around their neck and 2020 looming.
Court of Appeals is much different than SCOTUS. Look at all the death threats and ire these women have brought upon themselves, if they waited until he was up for SCOTUS it makes sense. But without a legit investigation we will never know.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:10
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:this time they come from a man who says he saw kavanaugh shove his penis into a womaj’s face at a college party
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/461436-kavanaugh-accused-of-more-unwanted-sexual-contact-by-former
“Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was hit with another accusation of unwanted sexual contact by a male classmate who said he witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself and press his genitals against a woman without her consent.
The New York Times reported Saturday that the latest allegation, which has until not been public, was reported to the FBI during Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation process last year but was not investigated by the FBI.
In the Times report, two FBI officials told the newspaper that a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh's, D.C.-based nonprofit owner Max Stier, said that he had witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself at a party before other students pushed Kavanaugh's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent.
The Hill has reached out to the Supreme Court for comment.”
Ok, let me get this straight....
1) BK exposed himself at a party.
2) Other students "pushed" BK's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent
So, the other students somehow managed to "push" his genitals into the open (I'm assuming) hand of a girl without her consent? She was standing there, right next to BK, with her hand open in just the right spot so that others could "push" his junk into her hand?
Then, he told the FBI but did not tell any of the Dem senators who were like heat seeking missiles, looking for anything to pin on him?
Unbelievable. You’re basically saying that the victim ‘asked for it’. If that was your daughter, I suspect that your perspective might be a bit different. What is wrong with you people?
No. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that it is very hard to believe that is what happened....at least the way that it is being presented.
And there it is. For every credible accusation there is this denial. That’s the state of affairs people. Here is where we’re at in this country. As our rights get stripped away and justice be damned.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:10
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:this time they come from a man who says he saw kavanaugh shove his penis into a womaj’s face at a college party
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/461436-kavanaugh-accused-of-more-unwanted-sexual-contact-by-former
“Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was hit with another accusation of unwanted sexual contact by a male classmate who said he witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself and press his genitals against a woman without her consent.
The New York Times reported Saturday that the latest allegation, which has until not been public, was reported to the FBI during Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation process last year but was not investigated by the FBI.
In the Times report, two FBI officials told the newspaper that a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh's, D.C.-based nonprofit owner Max Stier, said that he had witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself at a party before other students pushed Kavanaugh's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent.
The Hill has reached out to the Supreme Court for comment.”
Ok, let me get this straight....
1) BK exposed himself at a party.
2) Other students "pushed" BK's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent
So, the other students somehow managed to "push" his genitals into the open (I'm assuming) hand of a girl without her consent? She was standing there, right next to BK, with her hand open in just the right spot so that others could "push" his junk into her hand?
Then, he told the FBI but did not tell any of the Dem senators who were like heat seeking missiles, looking for anything to pin on him?
He literally couldn’t keep it in his pants. This is 100% on the dirtbag with his pants unzipped.
Well... if you believe a 30+ year old allegation by a guy who may or may not have witnessed this. Obviously, you do. I’m extremely skeptical it happened at all.
-DP
We know. We know you never believe any woman. There’s never a woman who you believe no matter how small or how big the charge (unless she accused a Democrat - suddenly you guys are convinced, curiously. But I have them suspicion that you don’t really believe those women, you just hate Democrats). Even when you’re women and you’ve had gropes, crude remarks and rapes of your own. Your POV is patriarchy and misogyny wrapped up in sadistic little package meant to look reasonable.
Stop your obsession with misogyny and patriarchy. All women do not have photography memories. Women do not always recall events of decades ago clearly. Women are not always motivated by your interpretation of noble causes. Just as Ford and Katz were motivated to save Roe v Wade by keeping Kavanaugh off SCOTUS, the NYT has an interest in garnering publicity for a book authored by a female reporter.
See? You believe no woman. In fact, with no evidence whatsoever, you accuse these two accusers of making this up for political reasons, which strikes me as more Republicurd projection but proves my point. You don’t believe women ever, full stop. Even when one of the women has 25 witnesses. It’s not about “photography memories,” whatever that might be, it’s about the fact that sexual assault is pervasive in our culture, pretty commonplace even, and people like you deny it exists.
And I’m about as obsessed with patriarchy and misogyny as I am with the weather. All three things exist.
What an odd blanket statement that I believe no woman. I admire your naïveté in believing that all women always remember everything and never act out of partisan reasons. Both Ford and Katz said that they were motivated by their concern over limiting abortions if Kavanaugh were on the Court. I did not Say that they had made up anything, just ask the 4 witnesses who were at the party with Ford and the 25 witnesses who were at the party with Ramirez.
Oh wait, they did not have the same or any memory of the events.
Do continue your mundane obsessions with misogyny, patriarchy, and the weather. It suits.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 10:04
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Kavanaugh is bullet proof. He is part of America's ultra ruling elite where the almighty dollar is the only thing that counts. He will not be called upon to defend his actions.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 09:43
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:These stories will forever circulate. This is why creepy men (or women if any) shouldn’t be SC judges. He is making everyone look bad.
No, this whole story is evidence that we not allow the well-funded and well-organized groups who are opposed to the nominee of a Republican president to derail the nomination of a highly qualified and exemplary candidate.
We have let it happen before. No more. We learned our lesson.
Gorsuch did not have this problem because he was highly qualified and exemplary.
+1.
First, for those of you who don’t read, they are actually discussing two instances of exposing himself to women. Ramirez and Stier. Neither were investigated because the FBI was told not.
Second, do none of you ask yourself why Beer Boy has all these allegations against him and Gorsuch has none? Same president. Same Senate. Similar backgrounds and judicial philosophies. Could it be that Gorsuch can keep it in his pants and Beer Boy can’t?
No, because Gorsuch was simply filling Scalia's seat....thus, no perceived threat to Roe. Any conservative judge nominated to fill Kennedy's swing vote seat, would have gone through the same crap as Kavanaugh did.
Do none of you ask yourself why NONE of these issues were ever brought up by anyone during the MULTIPLE background investigations that he has gone through previously, during his professional career? So all of these accusers were perfectly OK with him sitting on the Court of Appeals, but once they thought he was a threat to Roe (which he is not), all of the sudden he is this monster? Please.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 09:39
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:this time they come from a man who says he saw kavanaugh shove his penis into a womaj’s face at a college party
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/461436-kavanaugh-accused-of-more-unwanted-sexual-contact-by-former
“Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh was hit with another accusation of unwanted sexual contact by a male classmate who said he witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself and press his genitals against a woman without her consent.
The New York Times reported Saturday that the latest allegation, which has until not been public, was reported to the FBI during Kavanaugh's Supreme Court confirmation process last year but was not investigated by the FBI.
In the Times report, two FBI officials told the newspaper that a Yale classmate of Kavanaugh's, D.C.-based nonprofit owner Max Stier, said that he had witnessed Kavanaugh expose himself at a party before other students pushed Kavanaugh's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent.
The Hill has reached out to the Supreme Court for comment.”
Ok, let me get this straight....
1) BK exposed himself at a party.
2) Other students "pushed" BK's genitals into the hand of a female student, apparently without her consent
So, the other students somehow managed to "push" his genitals into the open (I'm assuming) hand of a girl without her consent? She was standing there, right next to BK, with her hand open in just the right spot so that others could "push" his junk into her hand?
Then, he told the FBI but did not tell any of the Dem senators who were like heat seeking missiles, looking for anything to pin on him?
He literally couldn’t keep it in his pants. This is 100% on the dirtbag with his pants unzipped.
Well... if you believe a 30+ year old allegation by a guy who may or may not have witnessed this. Obviously, you do. I’m extremely skeptical it happened at all.
-DP
We know. We know you never believe any woman. There’s never a woman who you believe no matter how small or how big the charge (unless she accused a Democrat - suddenly you guys are convinced, curiously. But I have them suspicion that you don’t really believe those women, you just hate Democrats). Even when you’re women and you’ve had gropes, crude remarks and rapes of your own. Your POV is patriarchy and misogyny wrapped up in sadistic little package meant to look reasonable.
Stop your obsession with misogyny and patriarchy. All women do not have photography memories. Women do not always recall events of decades ago clearly. Women are not always motivated by your interpretation of noble causes. Just as Ford and Katz were motivated to save Roe v Wade by keeping Kavanaugh off SCOTUS, the NYT has an interest in garnering publicity for a book authored by a female reporter.
See? You believe no woman. In fact, with no evidence whatsoever, you accuse these two accusers of making this up for political reasons, which strikes me as more Republicurd projection but proves my point. You don’t believe women ever, full stop. Even when one of the women has 25 witnesses. It’s not about “photography memories,” whatever that might be, it’s about the fact that sexual assault is pervasive in our culture, pretty commonplace even, and people like you deny it exists.
And I’m about as obsessed with patriarchy and misogyny as I am with the weather. All three things exist.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 09:33
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
At some point, Kavanaugh will have to answer for the financial issues related to his nomination. There is a conflict of interest in terms his NEEDING Trump to remain in office for as long as possible.
That is why Supreme Court nominations need to be fully vetted before being approved for a lifetime appointment.
That is why Supreme Court nominations need to be fully vetted before being approved for a lifetime appointment.
Anonymous
09/15/2019 09:29
Subject: new kavanaugh sexual assault allegations
Anonymous wrote:Kavanaugh and his family will live with these eruptions for the rest of his life. I am sure his wife and daughters are so proud.
So...small consolation, I suppose, since the mission was unaccomplished?