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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

NP. No need to be dramatic. But PP is right - one of these days, these punks are going to go after the wrong person. It would actually be refreshing if that happened because that might be the most effective deterrent.

Kids get involved in violence because they have no hope. Shooting a few of them is not going to deter jack shit. You need to show compassion. Violence begets more violence.

The ones who "can't be deterred" are the ones who most need to be shot.

I reserve my compassion for the victims of crime, not for the criminals, who deserve only swift and decisive justice.

I agree what happened to this guy is absolutely horrible--but just wanted to point out that for many of these kids, they are both victims and perpetrators. That's what happens in many rough neighborhoods around DC--lots of trauma in this population.

No.

In this instance, they are 100% perpetrators, 0% victims. There can be no compassion for them with respect to this attack.

What I want to know is the why? Why did a gang attack that man? Why are gangs attacking other people minding their own business? Why is this on the rise?


I also want to know the what. What will people do to address this shocking crime, whether as government officials, residents or parents?

I do know this: who. Who will not be visiting DC or Baltimore anytime soon until this is seriously addressed? Me and a whole lot of tourists.

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Do you have any suggestions on how to reduce the crime in DC?

do you? so far the xenophobes have suggested summary execution and running away from all black people.

I've read every post in this thread, and not one of them has advocated summary execution of all black children.

Hysterical hyperbole has no place in this conversation.

I'm not going to go back and thread lawyer because that's a huge derail, and some comments have been deleted. If you would like to now refocus the conversation on evidence-ways to reduce crime in DC, sounds like a good idea.

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Do you have any suggestions on how to reduce the crime in DC?

do you? so far the xenophobes have suggested summary execution and running away from all black people.

I've read every post in this thread, and not one of them has advocated summary execution of all black children.

Hysterical hyperbole has no place in this conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:Because of the racism, duh. The white nationalists who are jumping on this as a way to claim that black people are animals who should be shot or run from in fear.

Are you defending a bunch of teenage thugs for attacking a gay black man outside of a hotel just because they are black? Are you accusing others who find this unacceptable of being racists?? SMH.

No, that never happened. Just in your racist imagination.

So the video is just make believe and that DC is the land of lollipops, puppies and unicorns? Phew! Heading down to DC right now!

Nobody said that. not a SINGLE person has denied what happened or argued that prosecuting the kids would be racist. Not a single person.

Again, what they reacted to was the white nationalists saying that we should run away from/shoot all black people.

As a matter of actual fact, violent crime is down 2% so far this year in DC.

A) I have not seen any white nationalists on DCUM and B) I have not seen any post other than one about stats and blacks committing a majority of crimes (not saying I agree with that) but, maybe Jeff deleted those hateful comments from white nationalists. I think you are spending way too much energy on this issue and instead on helping find these perpetrators and spreading the message that attacking innocent tourists or anyone for that matter in our fair city is inexcusable.

You've never seen racists and white nationalists on DCUM? Lol.

This thread included people (some deleted) who were claiming you should never approach any black person because they might all kill you, and that you should all never set foot in DC because of the risks of crime. Also included people saying that black kids who commit crimes deserve to be shot dead. And also included people who no doubt parachuted in here from 8chan and the like just to make this into the racist cause-du-jour.

There are plenty of places where racism and crime in DC are discussed thoughtfully, but not here. If you want to have an honest discussion about how to reduce crime rates, it's kind of hard to do when there are people saying you should run away from/shoot all black kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Because of the racism, duh. The white nationalists who are jumping on this as a way to claim that black people are animals who should be shot or run from in fear.

Are you defending a bunch of teenage thugs for attacking a gay black man outside of a hotel just because they are black? Are you accusing others who find this unacceptable of being racists?? SMH.

No, that never happened. Just in your racist imagination.

So the video is just make believe and that DC is the land of lollipops, puppies and unicorns? Phew! Heading down to DC right now!

Nobody said that. not a SINGLE person has denied what happened or argued that prosecuting the kids would be racist. Not a single person.

Again, what they reacted to was the white nationalists saying that we should run away from/shoot all black people.

As a matter of actual fact, violent crime is down 2% so far this year in DC.

A) I have not seen any white nationalists on DCUM and B) I have not seen any post other than one about stats and blacks committing a majority of crimes (not saying I agree with that) but, maybe Jeff deleted those hateful comments from white nationalists. I think you are spending way too much energy on this issue and instead on helping find these perpetrators and spreading the message that attacking innocent tourists or anyone for that matter in our fair city is inexcusable.

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Anonymous wrote:Because of the racism, duh. The white nationalists who are jumping on this as a way to claim that black people are animals who should be shot or run from in fear.

Are you defending a bunch of teenage thugs for attacking a gay black man outside of a hotel just because they are black? Are you accusing others who find this unacceptable of being racists?? SMH.

No, that never happened. Just in your racist imagination.

So the video is just make believe and that DC is the land of lollipops, puppies and unicorns? Phew! Heading down to DC right now!

Nobody said that. not a SINGLE person has denied what happened or argued that prosecuting the kids would be racist. Not a single person.

Again, what they reacted to was the white nationalists saying that we should run away from/shoot all black people.

As a matter of actual fact, violent crime is down 2% so far this year in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:Because of the racism, duh. The white nationalists who are jumping on this as a way to claim that black people are animals who should be shot or run from in fear.

Are you defending a bunch of teenage thugs for attacking a gay black man outside of a hotel just because they are black? Are you accusing others who find this unacceptable of being racists?? SMH.

No, that never happened. Just in your racist imagination.

So the video is just make believe and that DC is the land of lollipops, puppies and unicorns? Phew! Heading down to DC right now!

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

Might have helped this civilian police worker in Baltimore the other morning.

https://twitter.com/atfbaltimore/status/1154594791994343424

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Do you have any suggestions on how to reduce the crime in DC?

do you? so far the xenophobes have suggested summary execution and running away from all black people.

Yes, I do. I live in the city very close to where this latest incident occurred. Stop saying that prosecuting these crimes is racist, for one. Prosecute all of the offenders in the same, fair way. In the video, it looked like to me that some of the kids were white. I personally do not care whether they are black, white, Asian. I care about the fact that these are violent crimes happening all over the city. Why is the DC Council and the AG not more worried about these crimes?

Oh bullsh*t. Please cite ONE person here who said the kids shouldn't be prosecuted. Nobody said that. On the other hand, the white nationalists here said that you should run away from all black kids, or just be armed to shoot into the crowd. What this PP said is that the racists who don't live in DC have nothing useful to contribute.

DC has been extremely soft on these types of crimes lately and we are all expressing concern. Get our head out of the sand.

again, not a single person here has said that the instigators should not be found and prosecuted. Not a single person.

Then why are you getting all offended?

Because of the racism, duh. The white nationalists who are jumping on this as a way to claim that black people are animals who should be shot or run from in fear.

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Do you have any suggestions on how to reduce the crime in DC?

do you? so far the xenophobes have suggested summary execution and running away from all black people.

Yes, I do. I live in the city very close to where this latest incident occurred. Stop saying that prosecuting these crimes is racist, for one. Prosecute all of the offenders in the same, fair way. In the video, it looked like to me that some of the kids were white. I personally do not care whether they are black, white, Asian. I care about the fact that these are violent crimes happening all over the city. Why is the DC Council and the AG not more worried about these crimes?

Oh bullsh*t. Please cite ONE person here who said the kids shouldn't be prosecuted. Nobody said that. On the other hand, the white nationalists here said that you should run away from all black kids, or just be armed to shoot into the crowd. What this PP said is that the racists who don't live in DC have nothing useful to contribute.

DC has been extremely soft on these types of crimes lately and we are all expressing concern. Get our head out of the sand.

again, not a single person here has said that the instigators should not be found and prosecuted. Not a single person.

Then why are you getting all offended?

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Do you have any suggestions on how to reduce the crime in DC?

do you? so far the xenophobes have suggested summary execution and running away from all black people.

Yes, I do. I live in the city very close to where this latest incident occurred. Stop saying that prosecuting these crimes is racist, for one. Prosecute all of the offenders in the same, fair way. In the video, it looked like to me that some of the kids were white. I personally do not care whether they are black, white, Asian. I care about the fact that these are violent crimes happening all over the city. Why is the DC Council and the AG not more worried about these crimes?

Oh bullsh*t. Please cite ONE person here who said the kids shouldn't be prosecuted. Nobody said that. On the other hand, the white nationalists here said that you should run away from all black kids, or just be armed to shoot into the crowd. What this PP said is that the racists who don't live in DC have nothing useful to contribute.

DC has been extremely soft on these types of crimes lately and we are all expressing concern. Get our head out of the sand.

again, not a single person here has said that the instigators should not be found and prosecuted. Not a single person.

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Do you have any suggestions on how to reduce the crime in DC?

do you? so far the xenophobes have suggested summary execution and running away from all black people.

Yes, I do. I live in the city very close to where this latest incident occurred. Stop saying that prosecuting these crimes is racist, for one. Prosecute all of the offenders in the same, fair way. In the video, it looked like to me that some of the kids were white. I personally do not care whether they are black, white, Asian. I care about the fact that these are violent crimes happening all over the city. Why is the DC Council and the AG not more worried about these crimes?

Oh bullsh*t. Please cite ONE person here who said the kids shouldn't be prosecuted. Nobody said that. On the other hand, the white nationalists here said that you should run away from all black kids, or just be armed to shoot into the crowd. What this PP said is that the racists who don't live in DC have nothing useful to contribute.

DC has been extremely soft on these types of crimes lately and we are all expressing concern. Get our head out of the sand.