Anonymous
02/28/2022 19:14
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:I’m right with you. Too many rescue groups that are just out to make a buck and don’t really care about helping animals. Be very careful when dealing with them. I’m sure there are some that are above board, but the whole rescue thing has changed since I last adopted a dog in 2008. I’m thinking of forgetting the whole thing. Makes me sad.
What’s with the conspiracy theorists?
I have volunteered for several rescues. No one is making a buck.
Anonymous
02/28/2022 18:34
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
I’m right with you. Too many rescue groups that are just out to make a buck and don’t really care about helping animals. Be very careful when dealing with them. I’m sure there are some that are above board, but the whole rescue thing has changed since I last adopted a dog in 2008. I’m thinking of forgetting the whole thing. Makes me sad.
Anonymous
08/14/2019 13:17
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I share the OP's irritation at the fact that these rescue orgs list every pit bull puppy as a "lab mix"...
Please fill us in on how you know this? You've adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested and discovered they were all pit bulls? It is almost impossible to ID the genetics of a mixed breed dog (and even some purebreeds) purely based on appearance. But lots of rescue organizations would probably appreciate your skills as they can't afford to test their animals so I hope you will volunteer?
I don't need to have adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested to tell you that a dog with a skinny whip tail, short cocked ears on the top of its head and a terrier shaped muzzle who was rescued from a Mississippi shelter is likely a pit bull (or some flavor of terrier) mixed with something(s) else. Lab pups have different physical characteristics - longer, floppier ears, stockier bodies, thicker tails, etc. But keep telling yourself that the shelters do this b/c they don't know what breed the dog is ... not because they know that adopters may be deterred by the pit bull/terrier terminology. I have nothing against pit bulls - like any active breed that is well-trained and exercised, they can be lovely dogs. But I do take issue with rescues (mis)labeling them as lab mixes...if the breed is truly unknown and they haven't seen at least the mother, then they should list the breed as unknown (since DNA testing is cost prohibitive) versus pretending it's a lab mix. I don't claim to be an expert - this is my opinion. I respect your right to see things differently.
Hey, jackass. Yes, you actually do. You have NO WAY to definitively know what those dogs are. Period. End.Of.Story.
Anonymous
08/14/2019 13:17
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I share the OP's irritation at the fact that these rescue orgs list every pit bull puppy as a "lab mix"...
Please fill us in on how you know this? You've adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested and discovered they were all pit bulls? It is almost impossible to ID the genetics of a mixed breed dog (and even some purebreeds) purely based on appearance. But lots of rescue organizations would probably appreciate your skills as they can't afford to test their animals so I hope you will volunteer?
DP but I know of at least 3 dogs that were listed as lab/hound mixes that were actually pit bull mixes.
Unless the group DNA tested and lied about the results, then they aren't lying. Many times a dog can look like one thing and not be that. Or be a mix of many things. Or the one trait is a minority of the dna percentage. My neighbor's 100+ pound dog looks like a pure GSD. He's got a lot of one type of "rat dog" in him that is not at all evident in his looks. There are lots of dogs out there like this. So, stuff it.
Anonymous
08/05/2019 11:56
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I share the OP's irritation at the fact that these rescue orgs list every pit bull puppy as a "lab mix"...
Please fill us in on how you know this? You've adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested and discovered they were all pit bulls? It is almost impossible to ID the genetics of a mixed breed dog (and even some purebreeds) purely based on appearance. But lots of rescue organizations would probably appreciate your skills as they can't afford to test their animals so I hope you will volunteer?
I don't need to have adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested to tell you that a dog with a skinny whip tail, short cocked ears on the top of its head and a terrier shaped muzzle who was rescued from a Mississippi shelter is likely a pit bull (or some flavor of terrier) mixed with something(s) else. Lab pups have different physical characteristics - longer, floppier ears, stockier bodies, thicker tails, etc. But keep telling yourself that the shelters do this b/c they don't know what breed the dog is ... not because they know that adopters may be deterred by the pit bull/terrier terminology. I have nothing against pit bulls - like any active breed that is well-trained and exercised, they can be lovely dogs. But I do take issue with rescues (mis)labeling them as lab mixes...if the breed is truly unknown and they haven't seen at least the mother, then they should list the breed as unknown (since DNA testing is cost prohibitive) versus pretending it's a lab mix. I don't claim to be an expert - this is my opinion. I respect your right to see things differently.
Anonymous
08/05/2019 11:00
Subject: Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
what proof do you have of this claim?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:no. You don’t know that. I did the bookkeeping as a volunteer for one group for 18 months. ALL the bills were from the Carolinas, some rural VA. Top expense was veterinary (all southern state vet hospitals) then supplies then transport. I met the transport van and they had just driven up I 95 from the South.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The rescue people justify buying dogs from mills to save them. The don’t fully realize that they are building a market. Then they hire some other folks to donate and take care of the dogs. Layers and layers because it is SO profitable. You might as well cut out the middle man and get a dog from a breeder. It’s come full circle.
+1 The rescues often think they are doing a good deed by "saving" these dogs from the auction. And sure, it is helpful for those individual dogs. But the rescues don't realize that they are just incentivizing the puppy mills to breed more and more puppies.
I don't know which rescues buy dogs. All I can say is that I've never seen it.
Of course you haven’t. Do you think they are going to share that with you? All dogs come by truck from an “all kill shelter in the South where we saved them just in time!”
You are spreading lies and doing a disservice to these animals. Please stop.
You are the one doing the disservice. Dogs are transported to a “kill shelter “ then resold to another “shelter “ where you look at the clean books. You really think they are going to share this with you ?
Anonymous
08/05/2019 00:57
Subject: Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Same, OP. We made the mistake of being honest to the rescue organizations. We are clearly evil people because we have an invisible fence instead of a regular one. And because one of us doesn’t stay or work from home all the time. Finally got a puppy from a breeder.
Anonymous
08/05/2019 00:33
Subject: Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
I had the bait and switch too and I hate it. I drove all the way because I was told a specific cat was available and when I showed up, that cat was adopted, but oh look, you can have THIS cat! Why can't they be honest. It's really off-putting.
Anonymous
08/05/2019 00:30
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I share the OP's irritation at the fact that these rescue orgs list every pit bull puppy as a "lab mix"...
Please fill us in on how you know this? You've adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested and discovered they were all pit bulls? It is almost impossible to ID the genetics of a mixed breed dog (and even some purebreeds) purely based on appearance. But lots of rescue organizations would probably appreciate your skills as they can't afford to test their animals so I hope you will volunteer?
DP but I know of at least 3 dogs that were listed as lab/hound mixes that were actually pit bull mixes.
Every dog is either a Lab or a Corgi.
Anonymous
08/05/2019 00:30
Subject: Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:no. You don’t know that. I did the bookkeeping as a volunteer for one group for 18 months. ALL the bills were from the Carolinas, some rural VA. Top expense was veterinary (all southern state vet hospitals) then supplies then transport. I met the transport van and they had just driven up I 95 from the South.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The rescue people justify buying dogs from mills to save them. The don’t fully realize that they are building a market. Then they hire some other folks to donate and take care of the dogs. Layers and layers because it is SO profitable. You might as well cut out the middle man and get a dog from a breeder. It’s come full circle.
+1 The rescues often think they are doing a good deed by "saving" these dogs from the auction. And sure, it is helpful for those individual dogs. But the rescues don't realize that they are just incentivizing the puppy mills to breed more and more puppies.
I don't know which rescues buy dogs. All I can say is that I've never seen it.
Of course you haven’t. Do you think they are going to share that with you? All dogs come by truck from an “all kill shelter in the South where we saved them just in time!”
You are spreading lies and doing a disservice to these animals. Please stop.
You are the one doing the disservice. Dogs are transported to a “kill shelter “ then resold to another “shelter “ where you look at the clean books. You really think they are going to share this with you ?
Anonymous
08/05/2019 00:24
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I share the OP's irritation at the fact that these rescue orgs list every pit bull puppy as a "lab mix"...
Please fill us in on how you know this? You've adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested and discovered they were all pit bulls? It is almost impossible to ID the genetics of a mixed breed dog (and even some purebreeds) purely based on appearance. But lots of rescue organizations would probably appreciate your skills as they can't afford to test their animals so I hope you will volunteer?
DP but I know of at least 3 dogs that were listed as lab/hound mixes that were actually pit bull mixes.
Anonymous
08/05/2019 00:11
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
Anonymous wrote:I share the OP's irritation at the fact that these rescue orgs list every pit bull puppy as a "lab mix"...
Please fill us in on how you know this? You've adopted several dozen rescue dogs and had their DNA tested and discovered they were all pit bulls? It is almost impossible to ID the genetics of a mixed breed dog (and even some purebreeds) purely based on appearance. But lots of rescue organizations would probably appreciate your skills as they can't afford to test their animals so I hope you will volunteer?
Anonymous
08/05/2019 00:01
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
I share the OP's irritation at the fact that these rescue orgs list every pit bull puppy as a "lab mix"...
Anonymous
08/04/2019 17:33
Subject: Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
no. You don’t know that. I did the bookkeeping as a volunteer for one group for 18 months. ALL the bills were from the Carolinas, some rural VA. Top expense was veterinary (all southern state vet hospitals) then supplies then transport. I met the transport van and they had just driven up I 95 from the South.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The rescue people justify buying dogs from mills to save them. The don’t fully realize that they are building a market. Then they hire some other folks to donate and take care of the dogs. Layers and layers because it is SO profitable. You might as well cut out the middle man and get a dog from a breeder. It’s come full circle.
+1 The rescues often think they are doing a good deed by "saving" these dogs from the auction. And sure, it is helpful for those individual dogs. But the rescues don't realize that they are just incentivizing the puppy mills to breed more and more puppies.
I don't know which rescues buy dogs. All I can say is that I've never seen it.
Of course you haven’t. Do you think they are going to share that with you? All dogs come by truck from an “all kill shelter in the South where we saved them just in time!”
You are spreading lies and doing a disservice to these animals. Please stop.
Anonymous
08/04/2019 11:58
Subject: Re:Rescue groups: your flaky, zealous ways have driven me into the arms of a breeder. Congrats!
https://getyourpet.com/about-us/
"Days Left" this stated on their website, I just find this heavy-handed, and makes me NOT want to look.