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Post 07/10/2019 13:50     Subject: DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

DC police will not enforce the law. So it is a non issue.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 13:36     Subject: DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

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Anonymous wrote:I saw someone in a wheelchair trying to maneuver around a scooter on the sidewalk, no doubt dumped there by some myopic twit in a man bun.


Are you in a wheelchair? If not, did you move the scooter out of the way? What do you do when you see someone in a wheelchair trying to maneuver around a car in the crosswalk?


Just toss the offending scooter in the gutter - assuming that no dumpster is available !


I'd like to do that with the dockless cars I encounter all over the place.


Are you serious? People don't park cars on the sidewalks, and we have ADA regulations for curb cuts and accessibility for mobility devices. A jerk who leaves a scooter in the middle of the sidewalk is a jerk.


People do park cars on the sidewalk, particularly in residential areas. Have you never had to walk around a car that was parked in a driveway blocking the sidewalk? People also block curb cuts when they park, and people park in bike lanes. Another thing that people do with cars relative to sidewalks is hit and kill people who are standing on the sidewalk.

All of these people are jerks (or worse), just like people who leave scooters in the middle of the sidewalk.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 13:32     Subject: Re:DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

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Anonymous wrote:I think the 10 pm to 4 am ban is discriminatory. There are people who work late shifts ending at 11 pm or starting overnight who won't have alternatives at that hour.

The distribution across wards is welcome as are the other requirements.


This was my thought, too! Think of all the restaurant workers who won’t have access to this very convenient way to get home.


I can't think of a worse idea than riding a scooter at 3 or 4 am. Ridiculous. Besides, Metro just started offering them Uber rides, so there is that. Scooters are horrible, terrible things.


No, Metro didn't. Metro started offering $3 per ride toward Lyft rides, for people who are eligible. If it costs more than that, or you're not eligible, too bad for you.

I can think of many worse ideas than riding a scooter at 3 or 4 am to get home from your restaurant job, starting with taking much longer to walk.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 13:25     Subject: Re:DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the 10 pm to 4 am ban is discriminatory. There are people who work late shifts ending at 11 pm or starting overnight who won't have alternatives at that hour.

The distribution across wards is welcome as are the other requirements.


This was my thought, too! Think of all the restaurant workers who won’t have access to this very convenient way to get home.


I can't think of a worse idea than riding a scooter at 3 or 4 am. Ridiculous. Besides, Metro just started offering them Uber rides, so there is that. Scooters are horrible, terrible things.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 13:21     Subject: DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw someone in a wheelchair trying to maneuver around a scooter on the sidewalk, no doubt dumped there by some myopic twit in a man bun.


Are you in a wheelchair? If not, did you move the scooter out of the way? What do you do when you see someone in a wheelchair trying to maneuver around a car in the crosswalk?


Just toss the offending scooter in the gutter - assuming that no dumpster is available !


I'd like to do that with the dockless cars I encounter all over the place.


Are you serious? People don't park cars on the sidewalks, and we have ADA regulations for curb cuts and accessibility for mobility devices. A jerk who leaves a scooter in the middle of the sidewalk is a jerk.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 13:08     Subject: DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

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Anonymous wrote:I saw someone in a wheelchair trying to maneuver around a scooter on the sidewalk, no doubt dumped there by some myopic twit in a man bun.


As someone in a wheelchair, please don't drag my situation into any battle against scooters. I have had far, far more problems with cars (which is what got me in the wheelchair in the first place) than with scooters.

Love the idea of shutting down parking spots on the street in downtown area and turning those spots into bike and scooter parking and for scooter and bike traffic. The part of the lane closest to the curb would be for bike and scooter parking and the rest of the lane for bike and scooter traffic. (Power wheelchairs that can go faster than pedestrian traffic could go there too.) One less lane for cars would increase traffic for cars, thereby reducing car speed, thereby frustrating drivers to the point that they reduce driving and either walk, bike, scooter or metro. Buses and cars that are just dropping off and picking up would be allowed - briefly-- in those scooter and bike parking areas. In fact, the area in front of a bus zone would not allow bike or scooter parking.


On the contrary. It'd PO drivers even more, leading them to be more reckless and go into even more road rage, especially during rush hour.

Cars rule the roads, like it or not.


Nope. Bike lanes make the roads safer for everyone - including for people in cars.

https://usa.streetsblog.org/2019/05/29/protect-yourself-separated-bike-lanes-means-safer-streets-study-says/
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 12:25     Subject: DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I saw someone in a wheelchair trying to maneuver around a scooter on the sidewalk, no doubt dumped there by some myopic twit in a man bun.


As someone in a wheelchair, please don't drag my situation into any battle against scooters. I have had far, far more problems with cars (which is what got me in the wheelchair in the first place) than with scooters.

Love the idea of shutting down parking spots on the street in downtown area and turning those spots into bike and scooter parking and for scooter and bike traffic. The part of the lane closest to the curb would be for bike and scooter parking and the rest of the lane for bike and scooter traffic. (Power wheelchairs that can go faster than pedestrian traffic could go there too.) One less lane for cars would increase traffic for cars, thereby reducing car speed, thereby frustrating drivers to the point that they reduce driving and either walk, bike, scooter or metro. Buses and cars that are just dropping off and picking up would be allowed - briefly-- in those scooter and bike parking areas. In fact, the area in front of a bus zone would not allow bike or scooter parking.


On the contrary. It'd PO drivers even more, leading them to be more reckless and go into even more road rage, especially during rush hour.

Cars rule the roads, like it or not.


There is no evidence I know of that bike lanes or bus lanes add to road rage. This is something that circulates around though, not sure where the notion originiated.

It also means drivers are basically threatening violence if they don't what they want.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2019 12:05     Subject: DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I saw someone in a wheelchair trying to maneuver around a scooter on the sidewalk, no doubt dumped there by some myopic twit in a man bun.


As someone in a wheelchair, please don't drag my situation into any battle against scooters. I have had far, far more problems with cars (which is what got me in the wheelchair in the first place) than with scooters.

Love the idea of shutting down parking spots on the street in downtown area and turning those spots into bike and scooter parking and for scooter and bike traffic. The part of the lane closest to the curb would be for bike and scooter parking and the rest of the lane for bike and scooter traffic. (Power wheelchairs that can go faster than pedestrian traffic could go there too.) One less lane for cars would increase traffic for cars, thereby reducing car speed, thereby frustrating drivers to the point that they reduce driving and either walk, bike, scooter or metro. Buses and cars that are just dropping off and picking up would be allowed - briefly-- in those scooter and bike parking areas. In fact, the area in front of a bus zone would not allow bike or scooter parking.


On the contrary. It'd PO drivers even more, leading them to be more reckless and go into even more road rage, especially during rush hour.

Cars rule the roads, like it or not.