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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Congrats. I've lived in the DMV for 25 years. And I can guarantee you that it was called that, and especially for those of us that lived in the District at the time, that was 100% the perception of MoCo:

- Rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase
- Rednecks in Poolesvile/Clarksburg/Damascus

And yes, the perception of Frederick at that time was also of Rednecks. But there was no reason to say that 'rich people' lived there.

That's moving the goal post from what you said earlier.
Everyone knows that there are rednecks in Poolesville, Damascus but that's different from saying MoCo used to be called " the rich and the rednecks", as if those are the only places in MoCo. What about the rest of MoCo (the majority of it)?
I got to wonder what kind of people you frequent who only think of MoCo as Bethesda/Chevy Chase and the whitest areas?
Don't tell me

We were talking about the perception of MoCo in the 90s....when ya know, it was predominately white: https://montgomeryplanning.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/MP_TrendsReport_final.pdf slide 25

Anonymous wrote:Many many years ago as a 23 year old, I went to visit Frederick and I literally had a man in the middle of the street say to me, "Go back to Japan," while his friends laughed. Given the lack of diversity in FCPS schools, I'm not at a place where I'm comfortable sending my kids there.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Congrats. I've lived in the DMV for 25 years. And I can guarantee you that it was called that, and especially for those of us that lived in the District at the time, that was 100% the perception of MoCo:

- Rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase
- Rednecks in Poolesvile/Clarksburg/Damascus

And yes, the perception of Frederick at that time was also of Rednecks. But there was no reason to say that 'rich people' lived there.

That's moving the goal post from what you said earlier.
Everyone knows that there are rednecks in Poolesville, Damascus but that's different from saying MoCo used to be called " the rich and the rednecks", as if those are the only places in MoCo. What about the rest of MoCo (the majority of it)?
I got to wonder what kind of people you frequent who only think of MoCo as Bethesda/Chevy Chase and the whitest areas?
Don't tell me

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Congrats. I've lived in the DMV for 25 years. And I can guarantee you that it was called that, and especially for those of us that lived in the District at the time, that was 100% the perception of MoCo:

- Rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase
- Rednecks in Poolesvile/Clarksburg/Damascus

And yes, the perception of Frederick at that time was also of Rednecks. But there was no reason to say that 'rich people' lived there.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Congrats. I've lived in the DMV for 25 years. And I can guarantee you that it was called that, and especially for those of us that lived in the District at the time, that was 100% the perception of MoCo:

- Rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase
- Rednecks in Poolesvile/Clarksburg/Damascus

And yes, the perception of Frederick at that time was also of Rednecks. But there was no reason to say that 'rich people' lived there.

That's moving the goal post from what you said earlier.
Everyone knows that there are rednecks in Poolesville, Damascus but that's different from saying MoCo used to be called " the rich and the rednecks", as if those are the only places in MoCo. What about the rest of MoCo (the majority of it)?
I got to wonder what kind of people you frequent who only think of MoCo as Bethesda/Chevy Chase and the whitest areas?
Don't tell me

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Congrats. I've lived in the DMV for 25 years. And I can guarantee you that it was called that, and especially for those of us that lived in the District at the time, that was 100% the perception of MoCo:

- Rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase
- Rednecks in Poolesvile/Clarksburg/Damascus

And yes, the perception of Frederick at that time was also of Rednecks. But there was no reason to say that 'rich people' lived there.

That's moving the goal post from what you said earlier.
Everyone knows that there are rednecks in Poolesville, Damascus but that's different from saying MoCo used to be called " the rich and the rednecks", as if those are the only places in MoCo. What about the rest of MoCo (the majority of it)?
I got to wonder what kind of people you frequent who only think of MoCo as Bethesda/Chevy Chase and the whitest areas?
Don't tell me

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Also, check out the MoCo Fair, and tell me there are no rednecks from the county.
Or the Tractor Supply in Poolesville. Or the Ag Farm in Laytonsville/Damascus, and tell me that there are no rednecks in MoCo.

and this is after 30 years of development, and there is still a lot of them in MoCo. Rewind 25/30 years and that was 100% the perception of the county. Country Clubs downcounty and Rednecks just up the pike

You're revealing yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Also, check out the MoCo Fair, and tell me there are no rednecks from the county.
Or the Tractor Supply in Poolesville. Or the Ag Farm in Laytonsville/Damascus, and tell me that there are no rednecks in MoCo.

and this is after 30 years of development, and there is still a lot of them in MoCo. Rewind 25/30 years and that was 100% the perception of the county. Country Clubs downcounty and Rednecks just up the pike

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

Congrats. I've lived in the DMV for 25 years. And I can guarantee you that it was called that, and especially for those of us that lived in the District at the time, that was 100% the perception of MoCo:

- Rich people in Bethesda & Chevy Chase
- Rednecks in Poolesvile/Clarksburg/Damascus

And yes, the perception of Frederick at that time was also of Rednecks. But there was no reason to say that 'rich people' lived there.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Again it has never been used to describe MoCo, and especially not in the late 90s. You're probably confusing Frederick, which used to be called Fredneck, with MoCo.
I have lived in the area for over 35 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to work in Frederick in the late 90's and I had to drive past a Confederate flag, in a yard on a flagpole everyday. This was 25 years ago but I have a feeling the attitudes are still there. Given the choice, I would go with Moco.

There's a HUGE Trump flag and a HUGE 'women for Trump' flag at the intersection of Woodfield Rd & Fieldcrest in Gaithersburg, MD.

You guys want to judge a whole community by the presence of a few flags.

I think everyone knows that Frederick is notorious for their attitudes towards race. My white co-workers even called it Fredneck. Just so you know, it just wasn't a few flags. It was stickers on cars, t-shirts, tattoos. I saw the Confederate flag everywhere. After two years of that and the commute to Frederick, I was more than happy to be transferred to another office.

Sure. But the late 90s was 25 years ago.

MoCo used to be called the place for "rich people and rednecks" when I first moved to the DMV too in the late 90s

Nope, not true. You're definitely making this up

Making it up? The first time I heard that phrase, it was on DC101. Elliott used it on his phrase when they were reporting on some story.

Then, we moved out of DC and into MoCo, and heard the phrase. I haven't heard it in a long time, but "the rich and the rednecks" was a real phrase used to describe MoCo

Anonymous wrote:Another difference between Frederick and MCPS is that in Frederick teachers are required to spend far less time gathering data for the school system so they have more time to grade student's work. One of the biggest problems in MCPS is that teachers spend and get so little time to grade. Grading isn't an end point. Giving substantive feedback and grade measurements to students along the way not just at the end makes a huge difference in student's learning.

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Anonymous wrote:There really is no comparison. Frederick County is about 10 years behind Montgomery County. Why do that to yourself just to get a big house in the middle of nowhere.

Well, for some people, a big house in the middle of nowhere is a sign of success. Their 'Murcan dream.

I'm not judging - although, I, for one, would never live in Frederick even if they paid me - just answering your question.

Anonymous wrote:There really is no comparison. Frederick County is about 10 years behind Montgomery County. Why do that to yourself just to get a big house in the middle of nowhere.