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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I specifically did not call out why women continue to have children, because I don't think it is all on their shoulders - their husbands have a role to play. And I am not talking about the women that are subjected to rape, which is horrible and out of their control.

I find it really telling that many of you assume that all refugees are ignorant, uneducated women who have zero rights. Not all women from those countries have no agency. That is a gross assumption.

No, idiot, it is not a "gross assumption." I've lived in several of those countries, and yes, the majority of women in the societies from which the US receives the most refugees ARE uneducated and with very little rights. I am embarrassed for you, but I also doubt there is any hope for you to really understand how the greater world works at this point. God. Just take your privilege and idiocy and go get a manicure or something, OP. You should probably keep your mouth shut on topics you don't understand in the future to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

OP here - I asked a legitimate question, I'm not embarrassed about it. I'm embarrassed that you seem to not be able to have a rational conversation about things. I would check that anger.

Work on your IQ first. You asked a very dumb question and got rightfully called out on it.

It's an honest question, and I got honest answers ... unsurprisingly, not everyone agrees. You should check your white privilege that allows you to think that just because you lived abroad you know everything. Still waiting on the source that says the majority of women refugees are uneducated. Please do share.

Who said I'm white, you nitwit? You really are embarrassing yourself.

To be fair to the PP, you sure do sound white.

What does it mean, to sound white? I am the PP above and I happen to be an Indian immigrant.

It means your views are those of fascists.

Who else here does not believe she is an "Indian immigrant"?

I don't who the OP is. I am the PP who said I'm not white, in response to OP. I happen to be Indian.

No, you aren't. I don't believe you. If you were really, as you say, "an Indian immigrant", you would have some understanding of the issues that plague women in the countries from which most of our migrants come, because these are prevalent in your own country of origin: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/02/india-most-dangerous-country-women-survey I have friends who really are from India, and though their families were more privileged than most, they were unable to fail to notice (as you have) the horrible plight of many, many women in their country, or the significance of women's rights concerns in these situations. You are no more from India than I am.

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Anonymous wrote:When you have no birth control, you will get pregnant.

Only if you have sex.

For you, and OP:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7167121/Fenty-model-Aweng-Chuol-slams-todays-society-ignoring-Sudanese-crisis.html

I wonder about the American born moms on Babycenter who have five kids in Medicaid

Anonymous wrote:So if it is as you guys say that they are being raped... how come we are letting a bunch of rapist men come into this country? There are a lot of males coming over the Mexican border.

why do we have so many rapist American men? And it’s sad to say, Honduras isn’t the only culture with some F’ed up laws about contraception, abortion, etc

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I specifically did not call out why women continue to have children, because I don't think it is all on their shoulders - their husbands have a role to play. And I am not talking about the women that are subjected to rape, which is horrible and out of their control.

I find it really telling that many of you assume that all refugees are ignorant, uneducated women who have zero rights. Not all women from those countries have no agency. That is a gross assumption.

No, idiot, it is not a "gross assumption." I've lived in several of those countries, and yes, the majority of women in the societies from which the US receives the most refugees ARE uneducated and with very little rights. I am embarrassed for you, but I also doubt there is any hope for you to really understand how the greater world works at this point. God. Just take your privilege and idiocy and go get a manicure or something, OP. You should probably keep your mouth shut on topics you don't understand in the future to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

OP here - I asked a legitimate question, I'm not embarrassed about it. I'm embarrassed that you seem to not be able to have a rational conversation about things. I would check that anger.

Work on your IQ first. You asked a very dumb question and got rightfully called out on it.

It's an honest question, and I got honest answers ... unsurprisingly, not everyone agrees. You should check your white privilege that allows you to think that just because you lived abroad you know everything. Still waiting on the source that says the majority of women refugees are uneducated. Please do share.

Who said I'm white, you nitwit? You really are embarrassing yourself.

To be fair to the PP, you sure do sound white.

What does it mean, to sound white? I am the PP above and I happen to be an Indian immigrant.

It means your views are those of fascists.

Who else here does not believe she is an "Indian immigrant"?

I’m a Latina(though technically white), and I believe her.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I specifically did not call out why women continue to have children, because I don't think it is all on their shoulders - their husbands have a role to play. And I am not talking about the women that are subjected to rape, which is horrible and out of their control.

I find it really telling that many of you assume that all refugees are ignorant, uneducated women who have zero rights. Not all women from those countries have no agency. That is a gross assumption.

No, idiot, it is not a "gross assumption." I've lived in several of those countries, and yes, the majority of women in the societies from which the US receives the most refugees ARE uneducated and with very little rights. I am embarrassed for you, but I also doubt there is any hope for you to really understand how the greater world works at this point. God. Just take your privilege and idiocy and go get a manicure or something, OP. You should probably keep your mouth shut on topics you don't understand in the future to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

OP here - I asked a legitimate question, I'm not embarrassed about it. I'm embarrassed that you seem to not be able to have a rational conversation about things. I would check that anger.

Work on your IQ first. You asked a very dumb question and got rightfully called out on it.

It's an honest question, and I got honest answers ... unsurprisingly, not everyone agrees. You should check your white privilege that allows you to think that just because you lived abroad you know everything. Still waiting on the source that says the majority of women refugees are uneducated. Please do share.

Who said I'm white, you nitwit? You really are embarrassing yourself.

To be fair to the PP, you sure do sound white.

What does it mean, to sound white? I am the PP above and I happen to be an Indian immigrant.

It means your views are those of fascists.

Who else here does not believe she is an "Indian immigrant"?

I don't who the OP is. I am the PP who said I'm not white, in response to OP. I happen to be Indian.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I specifically did not call out why women continue to have children, because I don't think it is all on their shoulders - their husbands have a role to play. And I am not talking about the women that are subjected to rape, which is horrible and out of their control.

I find it really telling that many of you assume that all refugees are ignorant, uneducated women who have zero rights. Not all women from those countries have no agency. That is a gross assumption.

No, idiot, it is not a "gross assumption." I've lived in several of those countries, and yes, the majority of women in the societies from which the US receives the most refugees ARE uneducated and with very little rights. I am embarrassed for you, but I also doubt there is any hope for you to really understand how the greater world works at this point. God. Just take your privilege and idiocy and go get a manicure or something, OP. You should probably keep your mouth shut on topics you don't understand in the future to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

OP here - I asked a legitimate question, I'm not embarrassed about it. I'm embarrassed that you seem to not be able to have a rational conversation about things. I would check that anger.

Work on your IQ first. You asked a very dumb question and got rightfully called out on it.

It's an honest question, and I got honest answers ... unsurprisingly, not everyone agrees. You should check your white privilege that allows you to think that just because you lived abroad you know everything. Still waiting on the source that says the majority of women refugees are uneducated. Please do share.

Who said I'm white, you nitwit? You really are embarrassing yourself.

To be fair to the PP, you sure do sound white.

What does it mean, to sound white? I am the PP above and I happen to be an Indian immigrant.

It means your views are those of fascists.

Who else here does not believe she is an "Indian immigrant"?

Anonymous wrote:I am probably going to get flamed for this, but I see so many heartbreaking stories of refugees and many have very young children or babies. I guess I don't really understand if you are in an environment where you need to flee your circumstances why you would continue to have children. Why would you continue to bring new children into those situations?

Be grateful that you’re in a position where you can’t even fathom how it happens.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I specifically did not call out why women continue to have children, because I don't think it is all on their shoulders - their husbands have a role to play. And I am not talking about the women that are subjected to rape, which is horrible and out of their control.

I find it really telling that many of you assume that all refugees are ignorant, uneducated women who have zero rights. Not all women from those countries have no agency. That is a gross assumption.

No, idiot, it is not a "gross assumption." I've lived in several of those countries, and yes, the majority of women in the societies from which the US receives the most refugees ARE uneducated and with very little rights. I am embarrassed for you, but I also doubt there is any hope for you to really understand how the greater world works at this point. God. Just take your privilege and idiocy and go get a manicure or something, OP. You should probably keep your mouth shut on topics you don't understand in the future to avoid embarrassing yourself further.

OP here - I asked a legitimate question, I'm not embarrassed about it. I'm embarrassed that you seem to not be able to have a rational conversation about things. I would check that anger.

Work on your IQ first. You asked a very dumb question and got rightfully called out on it.

It's an honest question, and I got honest answers ... unsurprisingly, not everyone agrees. You should check your white privilege that allows you to think that just because you lived abroad you know everything. Still waiting on the source that says the majority of women refugees are uneducated. Please do share.

Who said I'm white, you nitwit? You really are embarrassing yourself.

To be fair to the PP, you sure do sound white.

What does it mean, to sound white? I am the PP above and I happen to be an Indian immigrant.

It means your views are those of fascists.

Anonymous wrote:OP has difficulty understanding the indomitable power of the human spirit when it comes to survival.

OP has difficulty comprehending the amazing strength of a mother’s love and the awesome dedication that bonds families together.

OP has difficulty fathoming the sheer force of faith how it has willed poor and struggling people to endure insufferable circumstances and overcome insurmountable obstacles.

OP is not totally ignorant.
OP knows poor people have survived wars and famines and plagues and depressions and disasters and enslavements and oppressions and annihilations and exterminations and deprivations and discriminations since the dawn of civilization.

OP knows this, but OP cannot conceive that such strength and power and will and dedication and faith exists in such lesser peoples.

OP is the sort of spoiled spoon-fed arrogant elitist that solely sees life through the lens of material prosperity but is totally blind to the richness of life in terms of humanity.

Yes. OP sees herself and people like her as the ones who deserve to have children. She thinks poor migrants don't deserve to have children.

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Anonymous wrote:When you have no birth control, you will get pregnant.

Only if you have sex.

Or are raped. Or your husband / boyfriend demands sex. Especially all these migrants from macho Central and south American countries.

Lots of poor women in the US want a baby because it's the only thing they think they have to look forward to. I'm from a low income community and see this all the time.

Anonymous wrote:So if it is as you guys say that they are being raped... how come we are letting a bunch of rapist men come into this country? There are a lot of males coming over the Mexican border.

Please educate yourself. Start here. Come back and post your response after you've read these articles:

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/STUD/2016/578023/EXPO_STU(2016)578023_EN.pdf

https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2015/05/28/suffer-the-children

http://www.ipsnews.net/2019/01/shedding-light-forced-child-pregnancy-motherhood-latin-america/

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qkgg5p/brutal-battle-for-women-seeking-asylum-in-the-us

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals-network/2016/jan/16/the-other-refugee-crisis-women-on-the-run-from-central-america

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/03/us/border-rapes-migrant-women.html

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/facing-risk-rape-migrant-women-prepare-birth-control

As a doctor I worked with used to say, "Regardless of income or intelligence level, there's one thing everyone figures out how to do."

Anonymous wrote:When you have no birth control, you will get pregnant.

Only if you have sex.

OP has difficulty understanding the indomitable power of the human spirit when it comes to survival.

OP has difficulty comprehending the amazing strength of a mother’s love and the awesome dedication that bonds families together.

OP has difficulty fathoming the sheer force of faith how it has willed poor and struggling people to endure insufferable circumstances and overcome insurmountable obstacles.

OP is not totally ignorant.
OP knows poor people have survived wars and famines and plagues and depressions and disasters and enslavements and oppressions and annihilations and exterminations and deprivations and discriminations since the dawn of civilization.

OP knows this, but OP cannot conceive that such strength and power and will and dedication and faith exists in such lesser peoples.

OP is the sort of spoiled spoon-fed arrogant elitist that solely sees life through the lens of material prosperity but is totally blind to the richness of life in terms of humanity.