Anonymous
06/17/2019 17:05
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Over react much? A mass shooting was your first thought? Amazing.
Not an overreaction. My DS is twelve and so far we have dealt with a rumor (thankfully false) of a gun threat, and when he was in preschool, he had to be evacuated due to a bomb threat (also thankfully unfounded).
Not an overreaction?? Both examples you gave were...overreactions.
OP, you are paranoid. The media sensationalizes shootings. There have been 15 school shootings (of those, 4 were university)in the US this year and there are over 132,000 k-12 schools. That puts the odds of a mass shorting happening at your child's school closer to zero than pretty much any other bad thing that could happen.
These statistics are horrifying, but what’s even worse, is your passive acceptance of this problem. It seems people an rationalize anything.
Anonymous
06/17/2019 17:02
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Over react much? A mass shooting was your first thought? Amazing.
Such a ridiculous response. You must be a trump supporter.
DP. What is with all the out-of-left-field political profiling?
Anonymous
06/17/2019 16:38
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
I’m a teacher so I obviously agree something needs to be done about guns and this is a-not-negligible risk everyone in my building and all schools assume by being there. That being said, your response is a bit overwrought. If I panicked about a school shooting every time I saw LEO with lights up I would never be able to go to work. You’re not actually “living this way”- you had a very hyperbolic reaction to something that is actually very quotidian. Your son was never actually in danger.
Anonymous
06/17/2019 16:17
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:Lol drama queen
Go back to defending trump on the politics forum, troll. And only old people use “lol” anymore.
Anonymous
06/17/2019 15:53
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Lol drama queen
Anonymous
06/17/2019 15:52
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. As a nation our leaders clearly do not agree.
Why do we need to wait for outr "leaders" to do something? Why don't we as a society take some responsibility?
It starts at home. Kids aren't growing up in a one family environment They are being shuttled back and fourth with unstable parents subjected to all kinds of stress. Just talk to your average teacher, and what they deal with now. This is the real problem, not the types of weapons used.
+1,000,000
and as an example we have unhinged liberals on here talking nonstep bitching about everything instead of actually parenting their own children
Anonymous
06/17/2019 15:47
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Agreed. As a nation our leaders clearly do not agree.
Why do we need to wait for outr "leaders" to do something? Why don't we as a society take some responsibility?
It starts at home. Kids aren't growing up in a one family environment They are being shuttled back and fourth with unstable parents subjected to all kinds of stress. Just talk to your average teacher, and what they deal with now. This is the real problem, not the types of weapons used.
Anonymous
06/16/2019 19:42
Subject: Re:We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes, I am sorry that the NRA trolls have taken over this thread. The fact remains that we should not have to live like this.
The only ones mentioning the NRA are the anti-gun trolls. Once on page 4. And you.
OP, you should probably have a mental evaluation. You are completely unhinged. Go clench your fists and stomp about. You are lunacy incarnate.
Anonymous
06/16/2019 18:40
Subject: Re:We shouldn’t have to live this way.
OP here. Yes, I am sorry that the NRA trolls have taken over this thread. The fact remains that we should not have to live like this.
Anonymous
06/16/2019 18:38
Subject: Re:We shouldn’t have to live this way.
The troll has taken over this thread.
Yes, the gun laws need to change and, I predict, will change if we parents vote with it as a priority.
And as our children come to voting age, they will join us.
It’s past time.
Yes, the gun laws need to change and, I predict, will change if we parents vote with it as a priority.
And as our children come to voting age, they will join us.
It’s past time.
Anonymous
06/16/2019 18:31
Subject: We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath. I find it highly suspect that the gun control people on here aren’t as outspoken on stronger mental health care for kids and particularly boys and young men. Want scary stats?!? The mass shootings are done by males between 16-38 years of age (approximately) the majority are white...minus Cho at VA Tech, San Bernardino shooter, DC snipers, and recently the VA Beach shooter. Parents of young white males, what are you doing when your child exhibits signs of abnormal anger, isolation, unhealthy interest in violent video games, etc... Are you fighting for this to change? I am not a fan of guns, but I am also of the mindset that people kill people. Cars don’t kill people, people kill people. Knives don’t kill people, people kill people. SMH.
To the poster who says DC has low murders, they aren’t taking place in Georgetown in front of the high end shops. Google ‘murder rate and gun violence in SE DC’ then tell me how well DC gun control is doing.
Signed, an Independent who laughs at people who are void of common sense and will die on the sword of a particular party who is/are led by the most self-serving, egotistical, morons otherwise known as ‘representatives for the people’. Our politicians are the furthest things from serving the people!
To the poster who says DC has low murders, they aren’t taking place in Georgetown in front of the high end shops. Google ‘murder rate and gun violence in SE DC’ then tell me how well DC gun control is doing.
Signed, an Independent who laughs at people who are void of common sense and will die on the sword of a particular party who is/are led by the most self-serving, egotistical, morons otherwise known as ‘representatives for the people’. Our politicians are the furthest things from serving the people!
Anonymous
06/16/2019 18:03
Subject: Re:We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My niece and nephew were both at Columbine High School when the mass shooting happened. Both are parents now and with any siren it is their first terrifying thought.
I'm sorry for your siblings' children having to be part of such a horrific event. There are thirty-one-thousand other high schools that haven't seen that and likely won't.
For everyone else, please say this statement out loud: I believe everything the media tells me
If you rolled your eyes at that statement, please just start believing in what you believe. Fox News, CNN... everyone has an agenda. Just do your research and make educated, informed decisions before reposting the last meme you saw on facebook as fact.
And yet those children are dead. And the children from Sandy Hook. And all the others.
And I've lost two friends to drunk driving, but I'm not banging that drum. Your simple intellect to so incredibly transparent in this post, why don't you just let the grownups have a discussion.
Anonymous
06/16/2019 17:44
Subject: Re:We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:.Anonymous wrote:My niece and nephew were both at Columbine High School when the mass shooting happened. Both are parents now and with any siren it is their first terrifying thought.
I'm sorry for your siblings' children having to be part of such a horrific event. There are thirty-one-thousand other high schools that haven't seen that and likely won't.
For everyone else, please say this statement out loud: I believe everything the media tells me
If you rolled your eyes at that statement, please just start believing in what you believe. Fox News, CNN... everyone has an agenda. Just do your research and make educated, informed decisions before reposting the last meme you saw on facebook as fact.
And yet those children are dead. And the children from Sandy Hook. And all the others.
Anonymous
06/16/2019 17:19
Subject: Re:We shouldn’t have to live this way.
.Anonymous wrote:My niece and nephew were both at Columbine High School when the mass shooting happened. Both are parents now and with any siren it is their first terrifying thought.
I'm sorry for your siblings' children having to be part of such a horrific event. There are thirty-one-thousand other high schools that haven't seen that and likely won't.
For everyone else, please say this statement out loud: I believe everything the media tells me
If you rolled your eyes at that statement, please just start believing in what you believe. Fox News, CNN... everyone has an agenda. Just do your research and make educated, informed decisions before reposting the last meme you saw on facebook as fact.
Anonymous
06/16/2019 17:08
Subject: Re:We shouldn’t have to live this way.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any shotgun can be a deadly weapon if misused.
A person can literally make the ammunition for a black powder firearm at home.
How does registering any firearm prevent crime? If it is so effective, why has DC had so much violent crime when it has had gun registration since the 70's?
The fundamental premise of "gun control " uniformly is that more and more laws somehow will result in less crime, but that never happens because, by definition, criminals do not obey the law. Instead, decent people have their freedom abridged.
Endless debates about fanciful "solutions" does not move the ball down the field. Nor does the positing of practically and legally unenforceable draconian fantasies, especially those formulated with absolutely no understanding of how firearms work, what the present status of the law is, and what the actual utility of firearms is.
Decent people should not be deprived of the efficacious means of self defense because criminals misuse firearms.
What should we be doing to criminals to prevent them from misusing firearms and otherwise committing violent crimes?
This all or nothing argument is what got is where we are. You don’t get to tell me I don’t get to have a conversation about how to protect myself from a dangerous thing just because I don’t understand the inner workings of it.
Guns need more common sense regulation, not less. More restrictions on purchasing, ownership, usage, storage, and fitness of the owner. Decent people who want to ensure only decent people have access to dangerous weapons will surely want to have a respectful and reasoned conversation with other citizens to make sure that we have safe and effective laws that keep guns from criminals.
Respectful and reasoned. "Common sense." Safe and effective. Of course.
DC has at least the following gun laws:
1. All firearms must be registered.
2. Unlawful to possess unregistered firearm.
3. Unlawful to possess ammunition without registered firearm. No purchase of ammunition without registration certificate.
4. Lengthy list of banned long guns by name and/or characteristics.
5. Specified list of handguns allowed -- no "Saturday Night Specials."
6. Unlawful to carry firearm openly.
7. Unlawful to carry pistol without a license.
8. Training with actual target exam required for license.
9. Places where licensed pistol can be carried highly restricted.
10. Ammunition carried with licensed pistol extremely limited.
11. No open or vehicular long gun carry.
12. No possession of firearms or ammunition by minors, prohibited persons (felons, drug users, violent mentally ill). Straw purchases unlawful.
13. No private sale of firearms. Only one licensed dealer in the City. No out of state, internet or mail order sales.
14. Prepurchase safety training.
15. Background check on all purchases, including mental health records.
16. Longstanding (at least the 1970's) limit to 10 round magazine capacity.
17. Negligent firearm use unlawful
18. Criminal firearm use unlawful.
19. Use of firearm in crime of violence, drug crime, etc., unlawful.
20. Discharge of firearms (other than self defense) prohibited in DC.
If all of these have failed to prevent criminal violence, what will do that, as opposed to sounding good or making someone "feel" safer while doing nothing to punish or deter the ruthless thugs who seem to act with impunity in the face of all existing restrictions?
Dc has less criminal violence than many cities.
What are you producing as the alternative?
Less criminal violence? In the approximately 200 days thus far this year, DC has had over 1,700 incidents of violent crime (homicide, rape, assault with deadly weapon, robbery), nearly 8 per day. Hardly the utopia presented in advocacy to take rights from decent people in the fantasy/hope that this will somehow prevent crime by outlaw thugs who respect no authority beyond themselves.
Alternative: lock them up; keep them locked up. Stop bargaining away violent crime charges. Declare habitual criminals unfit to live in a civilized society and put them away, at least until they are so elderly they no longer represent a threat. Punish criminals, not decent people.
Anti-violence programs to explain to young people who actually may not know better that criminal violence is not the way to handle things and provide them with training in effective alternatives.
Social pressure on television, film, print and music producers to stop glorifying violence in the guise of "action," normalizing and endorsing violence as a way of life.
Hold men strictly accountable for producing offspring they then abandon.