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Anonymous wrote:Look let’s just end the thread now. Here is the deal with DCPS.

We live in DC, love the city, and want to stay in the city. But our eyes are wide open to the weakness of DCPS in upper elementary, and much worst middle and high school. We know there is no tracking, and the advance kids are not fully challenged. Our child is young, and when the time comes when we see that this becomes a problem, we are going private. For families who can’t afford it, they either move to the burbs or try to supplement extensively outside of school with tutors, etc..,

Parents with advance students who don’t supplement extensively and want to delude themselves that they are being adequately challenged can continue to do so. But eventually they will face reality whether that be SAT scores, applying to test in high schools, or in college.

how about if I actually don't care that my child is "adequately challenged" (whatever that means) because I believe he is naturally intelligent and creative? Also, have you seen Wilson and Wall's college acceptance stats? Do you think the kids at Banneker aren't challenged?

anyway, enjoy the burbs, with all their adequate challenges.

It’s obvious you did not thoroughly read the post. They are going private if DCPS doesn’t meet their child’s needs, not to the burbs.

You are an outlier then if you don’t care to challenge your child. Most of us do. Good luck with that “naturally intelligent” in the real cut throat world.

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Anonymous wrote:Look let’s just end the thread now. Here is the deal with DCPS.

We live in DC, love the city, and want to stay in the city. But our eyes are wide open to the weakness of DCPS in upper elementary, and much worst middle and high school. We know there is no tracking, and the advance kids are not fully challenged. Our child is young, and when the time comes when we see that this becomes a problem, we are going private. For families who can’t afford it, they either move to the burbs or try to supplement extensively outside of school with tutors, etc..,

Parents with advance students who don’t supplement extensively and want to delude themselves that they are being adequately challenged can continue to do so. But eventually they will face reality whether that be SAT scores, applying to test in high schools, or in college.

how about if I actually don't care that my child is "adequately challenged" (whatever that means) because I believe he is naturally intelligent and creative? Also, have you seen Wilson and Wall's college acceptance stats? Do you think the kids at Banneker aren't challenged?

anyway, enjoy the burbs, with all their adequate challenges.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, Janney parents. Will they talk about Janney in grad school?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the Janney parent above and there is zero formal differentiation at Janney. My kids did (and do) well with no effort and always get 5's on the PARCC. When we asked about more, it was suggested that they join the lunch time math club. My neighbor's kid is a true prodigy (doing math 5 grades up, etc). The parents had many meetings and were also provided with nothing except for suggestions about the math club and for a few weeks one year their kids was given extra work-sheets. They were far more frustrated than we were because they have a kid who truly needs differentiation and was bored out of his mind (but well behaved because he's a quiet kid) and the school provided nothing year after year. This school is 100% in the business of teaching AT GRADE LEVEL and providing a ton of support for kids who are behind. But zero, nothing for kids who are ahead, even many years ahead.

Maybe it's different across the park where the array of ability is much wider. At a school like Janney, I'd guess you have 75% of kids functioning very easily at grade level. 20% who lag behind in some way and 5% who are ahead.

Murch differentiates and it isn't a PTA thing, and teachers have professional development on how to do it well. It is school driven coming from the top, not from the PTA.

Janney apparently doesn't. I've been told by teachers there (and a few parents who switched schools and were shocked at the difference) that Janney is all about the PARCC and teaching to the test, so teaching ahead doesn't help them (and may hurt). But they do get the good test scores out of kids.

Right, and I have been told by my 8th grader (a Janney grad, high performer, most advanced math, yada, yada, yada) that the strongest students come from Janney and Lafayette, then Murch and Eaton and I don’t hear a lot about Bancroft and Shepherd likely because the groups are smaller. My child is a fairly astute observer and in many ways not a Janney booster. This is the last 8th grade class where Eaton had the right to attend for those that might be confused by this list.

You actually have these kinds of conversations with your eighth grader? Honestly, this is one the most pathetic things I’ve ever read on DCUM. Obviously the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Plus it isn't true.

yes, what a totally bizarre conversation to have with your kid. I have 2 kids at Deal (from a JKLM feeder) and I don't think either one could even tell me who the "strongest students" are. Academics are important to both of my kids--they just through all the Deal hoops to get As--but I don't think they could begin to tell me how all their friends do in school. And we would never talk about it together.

Same same same.

(Although this sub-thread does validate my kid’s observation that the most obnoxious kids at Deal come from Janney.)

Anonymous wrote:Look let’s just end the thread now. Here is the deal with DCPS.

We live in DC, love the city, and want to stay in the city. But our eyes are wide open to the weakness of DCPS in upper elementary, and much worst middle and high school. We know there is no tracking, and the advance kids are not fully challenged. Our child is young, and when the time comes when we see that this becomes a problem, we are going private. For families who can’t afford it, they either move to the burbs or try to supplement extensively outside of school with tutors, etc..,

Parents with advance students who don’t supplement extensively and want to delude themselves that they are being adequately challenged can continue to do so. But eventually they will face reality whether that be SAT scores, applying to test in high schools, or in college.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the Janney parent above and there is zero formal differentiation at Janney. My kids did (and do) well with no effort and always get 5's on the PARCC. When we asked about more, it was suggested that they join the lunch time math club. My neighbor's kid is a true prodigy (doing math 5 grades up, etc). The parents had many meetings and were also provided with nothing except for suggestions about the math club and for a few weeks one year their kids was given extra work-sheets. They were far more frustrated than we were because they have a kid who truly needs differentiation and was bored out of his mind (but well behaved because he's a quiet kid) and the school provided nothing year after year. This school is 100% in the business of teaching AT GRADE LEVEL and providing a ton of support for kids who are behind. But zero, nothing for kids who are ahead, even many years ahead.

Maybe it's different across the park where the array of ability is much wider. At a school like Janney, I'd guess you have 75% of kids functioning very easily at grade level. 20% who lag behind in some way and 5% who are ahead.

Murch differentiates and it isn't a PTA thing, and teachers have professional development on how to do it well. It is school driven coming from the top, not from the PTA.

Janney apparently doesn't. I've been told by teachers there (and a few parents who switched schools and were shocked at the difference) that Janney is all about the PARCC and teaching to the test, so teaching ahead doesn't help them (and may hurt). But they do get the good test scores out of kids.

Right, and I have been told by my 8th grader (a Janney grad, high performer, most advanced math, yada, yada, yada) that the strongest students come from Janney and Lafayette, then Murch and Eaton and I don’t hear a lot about Bancroft and Shepherd likely because the groups are smaller. My child is a fairly astute observer and in many ways not a Janney booster. This is the last 8th grade class where Eaton had the right to attend for those that might be confused by this list.

You actually have these kinds of conversations with your eighth grader? Honestly, this is one the most pathetic things I’ve ever read on DCUM. Obviously the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Plus it isn't true.

yes, what a totally bizarre conversation to have with your kid. I have 2 kids at Deal (from a JKLM feeder) and I don't think either one could even tell me who the "strongest students" are. Academics are important to both of my kids--they just through all the Deal hoops to get As--but I don't think they could begin to tell me how all their friends do in school. And we would never talk about it together.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the Janney parent above and there is zero formal differentiation at Janney. My kids did (and do) well with no effort and always get 5's on the PARCC. When we asked about more, it was suggested that they join the lunch time math club. My neighbor's kid is a true prodigy (doing math 5 grades up, etc). The parents had many meetings and were also provided with nothing except for suggestions about the math club and for a few weeks one year their kids was given extra work-sheets. They were far more frustrated than we were because they have a kid who truly needs differentiation and was bored out of his mind (but well behaved because he's a quiet kid) and the school provided nothing year after year. This school is 100% in the business of teaching AT GRADE LEVEL and providing a ton of support for kids who are behind. But zero, nothing for kids who are ahead, even many years ahead.

Maybe it's different across the park where the array of ability is much wider. At a school like Janney, I'd guess you have 75% of kids functioning very easily at grade level. 20% who lag behind in some way and 5% who are ahead.

Murch differentiates and it isn't a PTA thing, and teachers have professional development on how to do it well. It is school driven coming from the top, not from the PTA.

Janney apparently doesn't. I've been told by teachers there (and a few parents who switched schools and were shocked at the difference) that Janney is all about the PARCC and teaching to the test, so teaching ahead doesn't help them (and may hurt). But they do get the good test scores out of kids.

Right, and I have been told by my 8th grader (a Janney grad, high performer, most advanced math, yada, yada, yada) that the strongest students come from Janney and Lafayette, then Murch and Eaton and I don’t hear a lot about Bancroft and Shepherd likely because the groups are smaller. My child is a fairly astute observer and in many ways not a Janney booster. This is the last 8th grade class where Eaton had the right to attend for those that might be confused by this list.

You actually have these kinds of conversations with your eighth grader? Honestly, this is one the most pathetic things I’ve ever read on DCUM. Obviously the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Plus it isn't true.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the Janney parent above and there is zero formal differentiation at Janney. My kids did (and do) well with no effort and always get 5's on the PARCC. When we asked about more, it was suggested that they join the lunch time math club. My neighbor's kid is a true prodigy (doing math 5 grades up, etc). The parents had many meetings and were also provided with nothing except for suggestions about the math club and for a few weeks one year their kids was given extra work-sheets. They were far more frustrated than we were because they have a kid who truly needs differentiation and was bored out of his mind (but well behaved because he's a quiet kid) and the school provided nothing year after year. This school is 100% in the business of teaching AT GRADE LEVEL and providing a ton of support for kids who are behind. But zero, nothing for kids who are ahead, even many years ahead.

Maybe it's different across the park where the array of ability is much wider. At a school like Janney, I'd guess you have 75% of kids functioning very easily at grade level. 20% who lag behind in some way and 5% who are ahead.

Murch differentiates and it isn't a PTA thing, and teachers have professional development on how to do it well. It is school driven coming from the top, not from the PTA.

Janney apparently doesn't. I've been told by teachers there (and a few parents who switched schools and were shocked at the difference) that Janney is all about the PARCC and teaching to the test, so teaching ahead doesn't help them (and may hurt). But they do get the good test scores out of kids.

Right, and I have been told by my 8th grader (a Janney grad, high performer, most advanced math, yada, yada, yada) that the strongest students come from Janney and Lafayette, then Murch and Eaton and I don’t hear a lot about Bancroft and Shepherd likely because the groups are smaller. My child is a fairly astute observer and in many ways not a Janney booster. This is the last 8th grade class where Eaton had the right to attend for those that might be confused by this list.

You actually have these kinds of conversations with your eighth grader? Honestly, this is one the most pathetic things I’ve ever read on DCUM. Obviously the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids come up with these observations unprompted. I’d tell you more but you couldn’t take it.

Np who concurs, completely unprompted, that you are pathetic.

Anonymous wrote:This is a huge waste of time thread. It would be more productive to argue over whether Mercedes is better than BMW.

Can't we do better?

Anonymous wrote:The kids come up with these observations unprompted. I’d tell you more but you couldn’t take it.