Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:58     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love her or hate her, Beyonce is a versatile artist....unlike someone like Katy Perry who thinks that all she has to do is style her hair differently to "reinvent" herself.


She really is. And she's absolutely talented. You don't have to like her, but to say she's talentless is just ignorant.


X1,000,000. OT, but my favorite description of Katy Perry was a critic who called her a "reanimated wig stand."


Perfect description.

Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:54     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love her or hate her, Beyonce is a versatile artist....unlike someone like Katy Perry who thinks that all she has to do is style her hair differently to "reinvent" herself.


She really is. And she's absolutely talented. You don't have to like her, but to say she's talentless is just ignorant.


+1
But to me, this is like Gaga, or heck, Taylor Swift. She’s more than a meat dress, and more than a ring haired 15 year old. If you have critical thinking skills, you can see the reinventions. You can liken this back to artists like U2, Depeche Mode, if you’re that old. Not every reinvention resonates, but it keeps the artist current to the masses.

I’m not a Beyoncé fan, but I see and appreciate her evolution, and I think she’s awesome, although her music isn’t my “style”. Everyone wants young artists to remain who they were (Britney, Demi, Taylor, Beyoncé, Justin, whatever). These people grow as people, and as artists, and as a million and one other things.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:49     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

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Anonymous wrote:That song “Squeezebox” is a cringey embarrassment. I like a lot of Beyoncé, am looking forward to Homecoming, but I don’t view her as a role model for my daughter. I see PPs point about her sexually explicit lyrics being not a great symbol of black academic excellence and culture in light of the HBCU theme, but I also see PPs point about her success and luminosity being one (of many) part of black artistic and cultural importance and success. Sadly, her husband is fugly, but they seem to have a great and collaborative career rapport. I hate Taylor Swift, fwiw.

And no, “Satisfaction” isn’t saying “pregnant” after “make some girl”! The lyric is about being on the make ie looking for action.


eh, there's been controversy at best about that Stones lyric.


The older generation has been getting the vapors about the younger generation's music for a long, long time (Elvis!). The difference with Beyonce is that some of her fans that grew up listening to her are now among the "older generation" she is now alienating.

FWIW, I think it was a risky move for Beyonce to alienate a fairly significant section of her fan base in the hopes of growing a more youthful base. That may or not backfire on her. But she's been in the industry long enough to know which calculated risks are worth taking.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:48     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Love her or hate her, Beyonce is a versatile artist....unlike someone like Katy Perry who thinks that all she has to do is style her hair differently to "reinvent" herself.


She really is. And she's absolutely talented. You don't have to like her, but to say she's talentless is just ignorant.


X1,000,000. OT, but my favorite description of Katy Perry was a critic who called her a "reanimated wig stand."
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:46     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:Love her or hate her, Beyonce is a versatile artist....unlike someone like Katy Perry who thinks that all she has to do is style her hair differently to "reinvent" herself.


She really is. And she's absolutely talented. You don't have to like her, but to say she's talentless is just ignorant.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:42     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Love her or hate her, Beyonce is a versatile artist....unlike someone like Katy Perry who thinks that all she has to do is style her hair differently to "reinvent" herself.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:33     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:That song “Squeezebox” is a cringey embarrassment. I like a lot of Beyoncé, am looking forward to Homecoming, but I don’t view her as a role model for my daughter. I see PPs point about her sexually explicit lyrics being not a great symbol of black academic excellence and culture in light of the HBCU theme, but I also see PPs point about her success and luminosity being one (of many) part of black artistic and cultural importance and success. Sadly, her husband is fugly, but they seem to have a great and collaborative career rapport. I hate Taylor Swift, fwiw.

And no, “Satisfaction” isn’t saying “pregnant” after “make some girl”! The lyric is about being on the make ie looking for action.


eh, there's been controversy at best about that Stones lyric.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:29     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

That song “Squeezebox” is a cringey embarrassment. I like a lot of Beyoncé, am looking forward to Homecoming, but I don’t view her as a role model for my daughter. I see PPs point about her sexually explicit lyrics being not a great symbol of black academic excellence and culture in light of the HBCU theme, but I also see PPs point about her success and luminosity being one (of many) part of black artistic and cultural importance and success. Sadly, her husband is fugly, but they seem to have a great and collaborative career rapport. I hate Taylor Swift, fwiw.

And no, “Satisfaction” isn’t saying “pregnant” after “make some girl”! The lyric is about being on the make ie looking for action.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:27     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

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Anonymous wrote:Queen Bey responds to OP...



And proves OP’s point.


Oh well.
OP can listen to something else.


A lot of kids are watching, listening, and taking in raunchy lyrics and gestures, wherever they're found. And they're found all over in the music industry because entertainers in general (certainly not only Beyonce but including her for sure) are all about making $$$$$.


Handle your own household and prohibit your own kids from listening to her if that’s your preference but well intentioned or not you don’t get to tell other people how to raise their kids and what music they’re allowed to appreciate. It’s called tolerance and the respect of others rights (the artist and the fans) you should try those concepts sometime it’s very helpful towards society as a whole as opposed to censorship and cultural prohibition.


PP here. I work in a middle school. Come visit us sometime. Far too many of our kids don't have a parent or other steady, loving influence in their lives. They do listen to a lot of music that degrades women.


And just how often do you periodically pull the parents and/or guardians of these middle schoolers aside and tell them what their kids should/shouldn't listen to?


PP here. I don't.


Well I guess the degradation of women is not as dire a circumstance as you suggest if you somehow manage to find the restraint to keep your mouth shut about it outside of cyberspace.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:24     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Queen Bey responds to OP...



And proves OP’s point.


Oh well.
OP can listen to something else.


A lot of kids are watching, listening, and taking in raunchy lyrics and gestures, wherever they're found. And they're found all over in the music industry because entertainers in general (certainly not only Beyonce but including her for sure) are all about making $$$$$.


Handle your own household and prohibit your own kids from listening to her if that’s your preference but well intentioned or not you don’t get to tell other people how to raise their kids and what music they’re allowed to appreciate. It’s called tolerance and the respect of others rights (the artist and the fans) you should try those concepts sometime it’s very helpful towards society as a whole as opposed to censorship and cultural prohibition.


PP here. I work in a middle school. Come visit us sometime. Far too many of our kids don't have a parent or other steady, loving influence in their lives. They do listen to a lot of music that degrades women.


And just how often do you periodically pull the parents and/or guardians of these middle schoolers aside and tell them what their kids should/shouldn't listen to?


PP here. I don't.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:22     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Queen Bey responds to OP...



And proves OP’s point.


Oh well.
OP can listen to something else.


A lot of kids are watching, listening, and taking in raunchy lyrics and gestures, wherever they're found. And they're found all over in the music industry because entertainers in general (certainly not only Beyonce but including her for sure) are all about making $$$$$.


Handle your own household and prohibit your own kids from listening to her if that’s your preference but well intentioned or not you don’t get to tell other people how to raise their kids and what music they’re allowed to appreciate. It’s called tolerance and the respect of others rights (the artist and the fans) you should try those concepts sometime it’s very helpful towards society as a whole as opposed to censorship and cultural prohibition.


To be fair, pp wasn’t telling anyone what to do. You were.


To be fair I alerted the OP of an option perhaps unknown to them.
Listen to something else


Go back and listen to Destiny's Child Survivor - Beyonce is doing what Beyonce needs to do.


Couldn't agree more and for those who don't like what Beyoncé is doing, oh well, there are plenty others who like what Beyoncé is doing so haters just have to deal with it.


Kinda like the way lots of people feel about Trump, right?


Yes you're right. Kinda like the way a lot of people felt about Obama and W. Bush and Clinton and H.W. Bush and Reagan and Carter and Ford and Nixon and Johnson and Kennedy and Eisenhower and Truman and Roosevelt and Hoover and Coolidge and Harding...list goes on and on. Not sure what kind of point you're trying to make but yeah, folks having to deal with a President they're not fond of isn't exactly a "new" thing.
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:19     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Queen Bey responds to OP...



And proves OP’s point.


Oh well.
OP can listen to something else.


A lot of kids are watching, listening, and taking in raunchy lyrics and gestures, wherever they're found. And they're found all over in the music industry because entertainers in general (certainly not only Beyonce but including her for sure) are all about making $$$$$.


Handle your own household and prohibit your own kids from listening to her if that’s your preference but well intentioned or not you don’t get to tell other people how to raise their kids and what music they’re allowed to appreciate. It’s called tolerance and the respect of others rights (the artist and the fans) you should try those concepts sometime it’s very helpful towards society as a whole as opposed to censorship and cultural prohibition.


To be fair, pp wasn’t telling anyone what to do. You were.


To be fair I alerted the OP of an option perhaps unknown to them.
Listen to something else


Go back and listen to Destiny's Child Survivor - Beyonce is doing what Beyonce needs to do.


Couldn't agree more and for those who don't like what Beyoncé is doing, oh well, there are plenty others who like what Beyoncé is doing so haters just have to deal with it.


Kinda like the way lots of people feel about Trump, right?


I think you are trolling here, but what actual harm is Beyonce causing unlike Trump?
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:16     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Queen Bey responds to OP...



And proves OP’s point.


Oh well.
OP can listen to something else.


A lot of kids are watching, listening, and taking in raunchy lyrics and gestures, wherever they're found. And they're found all over in the music industry because entertainers in general (certainly not only Beyonce but including her for sure) are all about making $$$$$.


Handle your own household and prohibit your own kids from listening to her if that’s your preference but well intentioned or not you don’t get to tell other people how to raise their kids and what music they’re allowed to appreciate. It’s called tolerance and the respect of others rights (the artist and the fans) you should try those concepts sometime it’s very helpful towards society as a whole as opposed to censorship and cultural prohibition.


PP here. I work in a middle school. Come visit us sometime. Far too many of our kids don't have a parent or other steady, loving influence in their lives. They do listen to a lot of music that degrades women.


And just how often do you periodically pull the parents and/or guardians of these middle schoolers aside and tell them what their kids should/shouldn't listen to?
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:09     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Queen Bey responds to OP...



And proves OP’s point.


Oh well.
OP can listen to something else.


A lot of kids are watching, listening, and taking in raunchy lyrics and gestures, wherever they're found. And they're found all over in the music industry because entertainers in general (certainly not only Beyonce but including her for sure) are all about making $$$$$.


Handle your own household and prohibit your own kids from listening to her if that’s your preference but well intentioned or not you don’t get to tell other people how to raise their kids and what music they’re allowed to appreciate. It’s called tolerance and the respect of others rights (the artist and the fans) you should try those concepts sometime it’s very helpful towards society as a whole as opposed to censorship and cultural prohibition.


To be fair, pp wasn’t telling anyone what to do. You were.


To be fair I alerted the OP of an option perhaps unknown to them.
Listen to something else


Go back and listen to Destiny's Child Survivor - Beyonce is doing what Beyonce needs to do.


Couldn't agree more and for those who don't like what Beyoncé is doing, oh well, there are plenty others who like what Beyoncé is doing so haters just have to deal with it.


Kinda like the way lots of people feel about Trump, right?
Anonymous
Post 04/22/2019 11:05     Subject: Beyonce's lyrics are disgusting

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Queen Bey responds to OP...



And proves OP’s point.


Oh well.
OP can listen to something else.


A lot of kids are watching, listening, and taking in raunchy lyrics and gestures, wherever they're found. And they're found all over in the music industry because entertainers in general (certainly not only Beyonce but including her for sure) are all about making $$$$$.


Handle your own household and prohibit your own kids from listening to her if that’s your preference but well intentioned or not you don’t get to tell other people how to raise their kids and what music they’re allowed to appreciate. It’s called tolerance and the respect of others rights (the artist and the fans) you should try those concepts sometime it’s very helpful towards society as a whole as opposed to censorship and cultural prohibition.


PP here. I work in a middle school. Come visit us sometime. Far too many of our kids don't have a parent or other steady, loving influence in their lives. They do listen to a lot of music that degrades women.