Anonymous
04/23/2019 09:20
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Feds have a 95%+ conviction rate --And, they will tack on dozens of additional charges --if she gets convicted on even one, she will do time.
She will spend millions on a defense and will probably beat half the charges --but she'll get convicted on a couple and still do time.
She will spend millions on a defense and will probably beat half the charges --but she'll get convicted on a couple and still do time.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 08:14
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Still -- the prior poster is right that no university wants donor admissions in the sunshine -- even if it is defensible in some manner.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 07:58
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really dislike LL but I fail to see the actual criminal case here for her or her daughter regardless of what the daughter knew or didn't know.
Tax Evasion - If the organization was a 5013c then writing off the amount of money that she gave them shouldn't be tax fraud on her part. The donor is not responsible for whether the organization was a fraud or not. She was not part of establishing the fraudulent organization. The guy running the scheme if guilty of tax evasion.
Fraud - I've never a seen a criminal case for fraud on a college application or a resume. Its a civil matter or cause for termination but not criminal. Criminal bribery cases are usually made against someone in an official government role not school admissions.
Is there case law on any of this?
The feds have a high conviction rate but only when they stick to the regular established laws and not when they go out on a limp for something very public if there isn't case precedents. R
The problem with the fraud charges is that the victim has to be the university.. The defense will argue that they can't claim that giving money to a low paid coach in exchange for a spot is fraud, when the university itself regularly hands out spots in exchange for 8 figure donations. The universities don't want anyone to make that argument in public. They might end up having to reveal how many spots they sell. I can't believe the universities are cooperating.
When people donate money for spots directly to the university, that money is then spent on enhancement to the university which benefit the school and the student body as a whole. A coach pocketing money for personal gain and having spots that he/she reserves for students who are bribing their way in is something entirely different.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 01:26
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:I really dislike LL but I fail to see the actual criminal case here for her or her daughter regardless of what the daughter knew or didn't know.
Tax Evasion - If the organization was a 5013c then writing off the amount of money that she gave them shouldn't be tax fraud on her part. The donor is not responsible for whether the organization was a fraud or not. She was not part of establishing the fraudulent organization. The guy running the scheme if guilty of tax evasion.
Fraud - I've never a seen a criminal case for fraud on a college application or a resume. Its a civil matter or cause for termination but not criminal. Criminal bribery cases are usually made against someone in an official government role not school admissions.
Is there case law on any of this?
The feds have a high conviction rate but only when they stick to the regular established laws and not when they go out on a limp for something very public if there isn't case precedents. R
The problem with the fraud charges is that the victim has to be the university.. The defense will argue that they can't claim that giving money to a low paid coach in exchange for a spot is fraud, when the university itself regularly hands out spots in exchange for 8 figure donations. The universities don't want anyone to make that argument in public. They might end up having to reveal how many spots they sell. I can't believe the universities are cooperating.
Anonymous
04/23/2019 00:10
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why LL didn’t anticipate this when she refused a plea deal.
It was pretty clear from the statements of those who took the deal that the trade-off was that the kids would be off the hook. LL was willing to risk her kid to save her own neck.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 21:36
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sounds like LL pissed off the prosecutors with her antics, continued bucking of the system, and failure to take the plea. They're out for blood now (and rightfully so)!
She comes across as more stupid every day
maybe not stupid but very entitled and arrogant
Anonymous
04/20/2019 21:23
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really dislike LL but I fail to see the actual criminal case here for her or her daughter regardless of what the daughter knew or didn't know.
Tax Evasion - If the organization was a 5013c then writing off the amount of money that she gave them shouldn't be tax fraud on her part. The donor is not responsible for whether the organization was a fraud or not. She was not part of establishing the fraudulent organization. The guy running the scheme if guilty of tax evasion.
Fraud - I've never a seen a criminal case for fraud on a college application or a resume. Its a civil matter or cause for termination but not criminal. Criminal bribery cases are usually made against someone in an official government role not school admissions.
Is there case law on any of this?
The feds have a high conviction rate but only when they stick to the regular established laws and not when they go out on a limp for something very public if there isn't case precedents.
I believe they are also charged with money laundering and mail fraud. Basically these are probably very technical, catch all charges similar to using tax evasion to get Al Capone. I also can see some defenses shaping up, but that discussion wont be popular here so I wont go there.
I’m no fan of LL either but my gut feeling is that the feds overreached on many of the VB cases.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 17:48
Subject: Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Maybe she and her husband never wrote off the check to the fake charity. If they never wrote it off, they won't be charged with a tax crime.
Anonymous
04/20/2019 16:30
Subject: Re:Lori Loughlin's DAUGHTER is under criminal investigation in college admissions scandal
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like LL pissed off the prosecutors with her antics, continued bucking of the system, and failure to take the plea. They're out for blood now (and rightfully so)!
She comes across as more stupid every day