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Anonymous wrote:I don't know... I generally find OOS public is a dumb idea unless you are talking Berkeley and other schools at that level.

Right, you don’t know. You don’t know much at all.

My kid just didn’t want to be in Appalachia. Nothing wrong with Blacksburg, but you cant call it urban.

VTech will always be hampered by their location.

And their confederate-loving population that surrounds them.

Love the comments by people who have never toured Virginia Tech. It's a gorgeous school made of Hokie stone. You can train, bus or fly out of Blacksburg. our DS loved it when he first saw it. Please take the bigoted political comments to the politics section

Hm, thanks Minn. poster. I had trouble finding information about merit aid on the website and CC. I will dig further.

What about GT?

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all of these valuable insights. My child is having a closer look at some of these institutions mentioned here. Looks like Minnesota and Wisconsin have little merit aid to spare.

My child does like the University of Southern California an awful lot but I confess its location concerns me. The new retail complex is impressive and a great community investment. Can PP speak to the crime and safety situation especially for women?

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Not true about UMN. Word has it they are courting our area, and OOS applicant rates are down (due to recent tuition hikes).

The OOS national grant is worth as much as $15k per year and there's some other stuff available on top of that. My daughter got enough to make this in between the price of UVA and VT's engineering schools (which probably would have rejected her if she'd applied).

Thanks for all of these valuable insights. My child is having a closer look at some of these institutions mentioned here. Looks like Minnesota and Wisconsin have little merit aid to spare.

My child does like the University of Southern California an awful lot but I confess its location concerns me. The new retail complex is impressive and a great community investment. Can PP speak to the crime and safety situation especially for women?

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Anonymous wrote:University of Vermont especially for a sporty outdoorsy kid

Way too pricy

Enough about the money. UVM has merit aid and people can make their own decisions.

I taught at UVM. Here’s what’s great. It is small and the staff is dedicated to teaching the students. My colleagues took their research seriously, but also their teaching. Very different feel from a big ten school or the like. If you are looking for a research powerhouse, in most fields it is not. If you are looking for a solid education more focused on the undergrads, it is great. And yes, some programs are world class. And yes, Burlington is beautiful.

It isn’t for OPs kid because it is frozen for a few months.

I am a South Carolina alum and loved my experience there. I’m sure prices have risen since the mid-2000’s, but I was able to obtain residency within 6 months and qualify for the in state rate for grad school and pay out of pocket. I am an attorney in my 30’s with no school loans so snobby DMV opinions aside, I think I’m winning at life.

You should consider OOS public and OOS private’s. I continue to be surprised when private’s are left out of the mix. It’s cheaper for my daughter at University of Southern California than it was for UVA (by a few thousand; VT, JMU, Richmond, etc. were cheaper).

For OOS public, if your student has high stats, ASU and Arizona are great options with automatic merit awards for high, but not astronomical, stats. South Carolina and Alabama offer good options for high stats. Private’s LAC’s and schools like Vanderbilt have great merit and financial aid/grants. USC is half tuition for NMF’s.

This is one of the first threads that I’ve seen that does point out that UVA does jack up the price significantly for some of their schools. You do have to concede that $43,000-$44,000 for their business school is a pretty hefty premium. Cheapest total cost of attendance at UVA about $33,500, about the same as UCLA. Most other IS schools are just not that high even at UNC, UMICH, UF, UMD, etc.

W&M freezes the tuition for your four years.

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Way too pricy

University of Vermont especially for a sporty outdoorsy kid

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Anonymous wrote:Hard to justify an OOS public if you live in Virginia...unless you get substantial financial aid.

Hard to justify an OOS public over any instate flagship U

You don't get out and see the world much, do you?

My kids go to college to study. They can "see the world" after their education. I don't even know WTF that means for students.

It means going to school with students from all over the country and world; living in a location different from the one you grew up in in terms of geography, infrastructure, politics, and people; learning about and understanding points of view that are different from yours.

out of 4000 Unis in this country, tell me 10 schools that don't meet that criteria

Do you mean "those criteria" or "that criterion"? But point taken for the bolded. From a purely academic standpoint, this is probably accurate. The faculty at flagships are generally top-notch and probably more similar than different in expertise and credentials.

How petty. Maybe PP is a foreign born. Why don't you go build that wall to keep those folks away.

Actually foreign born people are probably less likely to make this mistake. And yes, I was being petty. It's a pet peeve. MAGA: Make America Grammatically Accurate.

Anonymous wrote:We were shocked at how much we all loved Indiana University in Bloomington. Between the top notch business school, fantastic campus, and generous merit aid, I would not be surprised if DS chose it over UMich and Wisconsin.

Top business school. Great merit aid. No brained

Anonymous wrote:We were shocked at how much we all loved Indiana University in Bloomington. Between the top notch business school, fantastic campus, and generous merit aid, I would not be surprised if DS chose it over UMich and Wisconsin.

Definitely a better B-school than Wisconsin!

We were shocked at how much we all loved Indiana University in Bloomington. Between the top notch business school, fantastic campus, and generous merit aid, I would not be surprised if DS chose it over UMich and Wisconsin.

OP here. Thank you to those who have responded. Why does every thread go off the rails. We get the prices of in state options around here. My child wants to go elsewhere and I am happy to offer that if tuition doesn’t exceed 10K more a year after merit. His stats are high and he wants to check out and live in another area of the country. Urban or suburban. Preferably warm, but is fine with seasonal if it was say Colorado, but not Great Lakes snow for 5 months.

I just wanted feedback for those that literally toured OOS locations or even kids that picked it. Pros and cons. Thanks so much!!