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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

I know I hurt her. I can tell. I should have been honest with her from the beginning. I know it. I love this woman, I know I can never replace her. That's why I'm hurting.

You need to tell HER those things, OP. You need to have a conversation about this issue with your wife that is all about HER. Leave out your own feelings, other than that you love her and regret lying.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

I know I hurt her. I can tell. I should have been honest with her from the beginning. I know it. I love this woman, I know I can never replace her. That's why I'm hurting.

So HAVE ANOTHER BABY!!!! I don’t know anyone that regretted having another child, but I know plenty that regretted not having one. It’s a lot easier for you to deal with infertility and newborn phase (both relatively short) than for her to deal with a lifetime of regrets and resentment. You are wrong here, YOU made the mistake, YOU adapt to your wife wishes if you want to save your marriage.

Also, having one more will eventually make your life easier because they will have each other. On weekends I don’t see my kids until 10am or so because they are playing with each other (5 and 3). It’s really amazing to have 2

Anonymous wrote:You are heartless! It's not just about your wife- what about a sibling for your child!

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

There would be a big age gap between the new baby and my son. So much of a difference that they won't entertain each other.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

I know I hurt her. I can tell. I should have been honest with her from the beginning. I know it. I love this woman, I know I can never replace her. That's why I'm hurting.

So HAVE ANOTHER BABY!!!! I don’t know anyone that regretted having another child, but I know plenty that regretted not having one. It’s a lot easier for you to deal with infertility and newborn phase (both relatively short) than for her to deal with a lifetime of regrets and resentment. You are wrong here, YOU made the mistake, YOU adapt to your wife wishes if you want to save your marriage.

Also, having one more will eventually make your life easier because they will have each other. On weekends I don’t see my kids until 10am or so because they are playing with each other (5 and 3). It’s really amazing to have 2

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

There would be a big age gap between the new baby and my son. They're not going to entertain each other.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

I know I hurt her. I can tell. I should have been honest with her from the beginning. I know it. I love this woman, I know I can never replace her. That's why I'm hurting.

So HAVE ANOTHER BABY!!!! I don’t know anyone that regretted having another child, but I know plenty that regretted not having one. It’s a lot easier for you to deal with infertility and newborn phase (both relatively short) than for her to deal with a lifetime of regrets and resentment. You are wrong here, YOU made the mistake, YOU adapt to your wife wishes if you want to save your marriage.

Also, having one more will eventually make your life easier because they will have each other. On weekends I don’t see my kids until 10am or so because they are playing with each other (5 and 3). It’s really amazing to have 2

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

I know I hurt her. I can tell. I should have been honest with her from the beginning. I know it. I love this woman, I know I can never replace her. That's why I'm hurting.

So HAVE ANOTHER BABY!!!! I don’t know anyone that regretted having another child, but I know plenty that regretted not having one. It’s a lot easier for you to deal with infertility and newborn phase (both relatively short) than for her to deal with a lifetime of regrets and resentment. You are wrong here, YOU made the mistake, YOU adapt to your wife wishes if you want to save your marriage.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

I know I hurt her. I can tell. I should have been honest with her from the beginning. I know it. I love this woman, I know I can never replace her. That's why I'm hurting.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

I know I hurt her. I can tell. I should have been honest with her from the beginning. I know it. I love this woman, I know I can never replace her. That's why I'm hurting.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

Well she's right, you are extremely selfish, but you're also strange and stupid. You're either a troll or you have some sort of weird personality disorder/disability. If you're real then she's dealing with mourning the loss of something (2 kids, at least trying for a larger family) that was extremely important to her and the realization that her husband betrayed/manipulated her with pretty much zero regard for her feelings. You've displayed zero remorse here when people keep telling you over and over that you lied to her. You keep making it about you.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

She told me I'm selfish and only thinking about myself

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Anonymous wrote:The OP threads seem flat enough in tone that it seems there's a high probability OP is either a troll or someone with a very limited capacity for empathy. If you love your wife and son, then you try to help your wife realize her goal to have another child, if only to keep your family together and have an ongoing presence in your son's life. I was pretty sure I only wanted two kids and one day spouse announced #3 was on the way. He's one of the three greatest kids in the world, in my humble opinion.

If you can't see your way through to this, nobody on this forum is going make things any better for you.

Agreed.

However, if OP is not a troll, I feel very bad for his wife. I'd love to convince OP to give her the second child she thought she was going to at least try for, but at this point, I don't think OP needs to reproduce any further.

Anonymous wrote:I don't believe that these are real facts. Having experienced my own infertility issues, there is no way that I would let so much time pass between giving birth and going back to the RE. Knowing we wanted a second child, we went back to consult with the clinic before our first was two, and we had a number of frozen embryos to work with. How old are you guys now?

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Anonymous wrote:It's not that easy. It's too much work and I don't want to do the work of having a newborn baby that will wake up thru the night. Plus, I'm now 37 and too old for that.

You are not "too old for that." You just don't want to.