Anonymous
01/11/2019 11:12
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP- I hope this is a wake up call to start living below your means. We make a middle income salary by DCUM standards but in order to save we have to live like we are struggling. It’s hard but we are able to use our emergency fund in this situation. Living below our means also meant that we didn’t screw up our credit, so if this shutdown goes past our 3 months of savings, we can do cc’s if necessary. I know I sound like an asshole but this situation that you’re in isn’t wholly the fault of the government.
Federal employees should not have 3 months expenses in an emergency fund. That's a poor use of money.
I'm the PP you're quoting. DH and I are both feds. We're making very good use of that money right now. When we receive our back pay, we will replenish what we've used. People can say what they want, but I'm not the one who will have to borrow living expenses from my TSP or lose my kids' daycare spot. Rainy days come, it doesn't matter who you are. It's those that plan for them that stay out of debt.
I don't think employees who are not working should receive back pay. Alternatively, those employees forced to work w/o pay while their colleagues are on paid vacation should receive time and half once this mess is sorted out.
Np: Contractors didn’t ask for this, either, and they won’t receive back pay - I feel most sorry for them.
We will. Sorry.
Why shouldn't we receive backpay? We'd be working right now if we could. We're not choosing to "strike" or whatever.
Anonymous
01/11/2019 10:51
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP- I hope this is a wake up call to start living below your means. We make a middle income salary by DCUM standards but in order to save we have to live like we are struggling. It’s hard but we are able to use our emergency fund in this situation. Living below our means also meant that we didn’t screw up our credit, so if this shutdown goes past our 3 months of savings, we can do cc’s if necessary. I know I sound like an asshole but this situation that you’re in isn’t wholly the fault of the government.
Federal employees should not have 3 months expenses in an emergency fund. That's a poor use of money.
I'm the PP you're quoting. DH and I are both feds. We're making very good use of that money right now. When we receive our back pay, we will replenish what we've used. People can say what they want, but I'm not the one who will have to borrow living expenses from my TSP or lose my kids' daycare spot. Rainy days come, it doesn't matter who you are. It's those that plan for them that stay out of debt.
I don't think employees who are not working should receive back pay. Alternatively, those employees forced to work w/o pay while their colleagues are on paid vacation should receive time and half once this mess is sorted out.
We will. Sorry.
Why shouldn't we receive backpay? We'd be working right now if we could. We're not choosing to "strike" or whatever.
Anonymous
01/11/2019 09:25
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.
there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.
It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.
People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.
That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.
Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?
I'm saying that advocating that someone sell their blood or plasma for 50$ when they're losing their government salary is stupid. Why don't you suggest they have a bake sale or selling lemonade? Because they'd probably make more doing that.
It's really crazy that PPP thinks selling a pint of blood will cover a paycheck. But the bake and garage sales is exactly what Coast guard senior management recommended. Sick.
As what said before, no one is saying that this will cover a paycheck. What people have said is that Feds who are stressed about delayed paychecks and who aren't currently working -- so have lots of a free time -- should look for various ways to make some extra cash to alleviate the cash flow crunch. It won't make up for a whole paycheck, but some money here and there would allow someone to cover more bills than they could otherwise. That seems more prudent than simply sitting around and bitching.
Anonymous
01/11/2019 07:55
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Medical Testing for Money. Riskier the better pay out.
there is a lot of very bad advice given on this thread.
It depends. There are reputable studies where people are compensated for their services. You can also make money donating plasma or other fluids. If you need to come up with money, particularly if your ability to get a PT job is limited, these aren't crazy suggestions, even if they might not be for you.
People can not replace their government salary, even a low level one, by donating plasma or fluids.
That's not the point. Even if you can't replace your entire salary, you may be able to make enough money to help tide you over until you ultimately get backpay.
Forget the specifics of how to earn the money, are you saying that unless someone can replicate their government salary they shouldn't bother working at all?
I'm saying that advocating that someone sell their blood or plasma for 50$ when they're losing their government salary is stupid. Why don't you suggest they have a bake sale or selling lemonade? Because they'd probably make more doing that.
It's really crazy that PPP thinks selling a pint of blood will cover a paycheck. But the bake and garage sales is exactly what Coast guard senior management recommended. Sick.
Anonymous
01/11/2019 07:53
Subject: Re:Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And what about feds who ARE working right now as “essential” employees just not getting paid? What handy dandy solution do you have for them??
+1 I have many friends who are essential but still shelling out for daycare and household expenses because they're still working full-time. There are NO dandy solutions for them.
Oh man, that really sucks. Meanwhile the donald and melanie are sipping from their gold champagne flutes.
Yup. While the secret service agents assigned to protect them with their lives are worried about how they’re going to pay the rent.
The Secret Service isn't getting paid?
Nope! And neither are all the other essential employees (and there's a lot of them): TSA, Coast Guard, FEMA, Air Traffic Controllers, USDA inspectors, NOAA/weather service, and most federal law-enforcement officers. I work for the latter in a support role and am not only getting zero pay, but am also no longer authorized overtime (mind you, I'm still working way over 40 hours a week, but will never get paid the OT for it).
Had stayed in government till now for the stability + benefits, so much for that. Seriously considering jumping ship now.
Stop working overtime without pay. People cannot and will not recognize your value when you don't allow them to see your need.
Anonymous
01/11/2019 06:51
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP- I hope this is a wake up call to start living below your means. We make a middle income salary by DCUM standards but in order to save we have to live like we are struggling. It’s hard but we are able to use our emergency fund in this situation. Living below our means also meant that we didn’t screw up our credit, so if this shutdown goes past our 3 months of savings, we can do cc’s if necessary. I know I sound like an asshole but this situation that you’re in isn’t wholly the fault of the government.
Federal employees should not have 3 months expenses in an emergency fund. That's a poor use of money.
I'm the PP you're quoting. DH and I are both feds. We're making very good use of that money right now. When we receive our back pay, we will replenish what we've used. People can say what they want, but I'm not the one who will have to borrow living expenses from my TSP or lose my kids' daycare spot. Rainy days come, it doesn't matter who you are. It's those that plan for them that stay out of debt.
I don't think employees who are not working should receive back pay. Alternatively, those employees forced to work w/o pay while their colleagues are on paid vacation should receive time and half once this mess is sorted out.
Anonymous
01/11/2019 06:47
Subject: Re:Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And what about feds who ARE working right now as “essential” employees just not getting paid? What handy dandy solution do you have for them??
+1 I have many friends who are essential but still shelling out for daycare and household expenses because they're still working full-time. There are NO dandy solutions for them.
Oh man, that really sucks. Meanwhile the donald and melanie are sipping from their gold champagne flutes.
Yup. While the secret service agents assigned to protect them with their lives are worried about how they’re going to pay the rent.
The Secret Service isn't getting paid?
Neither is the FBI, ICE, BP, NASA, CG, etc.
Anonymous
01/11/2019 06:44
Subject: Re:Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:And what about feds who ARE working right now as “essential” employees just not getting paid? What handy dandy solution do you have for them??
+1 I have many friends who are essential but still shelling out for daycare and household expenses because they're still working full-time. There are NO dandy solutions for them.
Oh man, that really sucks. Meanwhile the donald and melanie are sipping from their gold champagne flutes.
Yup. While the secret service agents assigned to protect them with their lives are worried about how they’re going to pay the rent.
Stupid SS. Why would they even imagine taking a bullet for either one of them.
Anonymous
01/10/2019 23:47
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP- I hope this is a wake up call to start living below your means. We make a middle income salary by DCUM standards but in order to save we have to live like we are struggling. It’s hard but we are able to use our emergency fund in this situation. Living below our means also meant that we didn’t screw up our credit, so if this shutdown goes past our 3 months of savings, we can do cc’s if necessary. I know I sound like an asshole but this situation that you’re in isn’t wholly the fault of the government.
I never said my situation was the governments fault.-op
+1 Yes, the PP definitely sounds like an asshole.
Anonymous
01/10/2019 23:15
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:OP- I hope this is a wake up call to start living below your means. We make a middle income salary by DCUM standards but in order to save we have to live like we are struggling. It’s hard but we are able to use our emergency fund in this situation. Living below our means also meant that we didn’t screw up our credit, so if this shutdown goes past our 3 months of savings, we can do cc’s if necessary. I know I sound like an asshole but this situation that you’re in isn’t wholly the fault of the government.
I never said my situation was the governments fault.-op
Anonymous
01/10/2019 23:12
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious... Feds can’t even work Target or Gap type place without permission? Sell candles, pampered chef
Still require ethics approval.
Anonymous
01/10/2019 00:16
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mvgAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aren't Feds offered low or no-interest loans in shutdown scenarios?
Is that possible for you, OP?
op- credit is shot.
Ouch. Sorry, OP.
FIle for unemployment. Not that much, but it will help.
But OP's not unemployed. She's just working without being paid by the Government. She can't file for unemployment.
She could if she called in sick. Then she would be furloughed instead of essential.
Such a dumb way to run a country.
Except that if they find out she's not sick and just calling in sick to get unemployment she will lose her job. There are no good solutions to OP's problem.
Anonymous
01/10/2019 00:11
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mvgAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aren't Feds offered low or no-interest loans in shutdown scenarios?
Is that possible for you, OP?
op- credit is shot.
Ouch. Sorry, OP.
FIle for unemployment. Not that much, but it will help.
But OP's not unemployed. She's just working without being paid by the Government. She can't file for unemployment.
She could if she called in sick. Then she would be furloughed instead of essential.
Such a dumb way to run a country.
Anonymous
01/09/2019 23:58
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
Anonymous wrote:mvgAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aren't Feds offered low or no-interest loans in shutdown scenarios?
Is that possible for you, OP?
op- credit is shot.
Ouch. Sorry, OP.
FIle for unemployment. Not that much, but it will help.
But OP's not unemployed. She's just working without being paid by the Government. She can't file for unemployment.
Anonymous
01/09/2019 22:22
Subject: Shut down could not have come at worst time withdraw. Some tap
mvgAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aren't Feds offered low or no-interest loans in shutdown scenarios?
Is that possible for you, OP?
op- credit is shot.
Ouch. Sorry, OP.
FIle for unemployment. Not that much, but it will help.