Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:41
Subject: Re:Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Agree with 13:19.
These endless complaints about Ellington are as racist as they are classist. It's like you can't stand for poor kids from other parts of the city to have access to something nice, much less something nice in your backyard.
The more you spout this trash the less support you will find for your dream school to exclusively serve the 10% of students in DC schools who are white.
You miss the point: overcrowding at Deal (and also Wilson). If there's an attractive HS alternative to Wilson, then it would drag students into Hardy and then to the new Ellington High. It would relieve overcrowding in the Deal-to-Wilson track. Also, while we're on the subject of under-utilized capacity, then the current Duke Ellington-only-arts-school program sticks out like a sore thumb. They've got thousands of square feet of school, but a small number of students, many of whom aren't D.C. residents. There's no reason why arts-track students could not be mixed with normal-track students in the new Ellington School, as a proposal. The new Ellington would still be very predominantly African-American, btw, as race seems to be an obsession for many.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:34
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Let it go. That ship has sailed and the school would have to be totally re-renovated to work
Please. It would work just fine as a normal high school. Go over to Potomac and Bethesda and take a look at the incredibly awesome arts and music programs those cats have in their public high schools.
Getting creative with ideas, Ellington could easily become a city-wide, noncompetitive enrollment high school with competitive applications solely for after-school arts and music classes and clubs.
That doesn't solve the demographic growth problem. They need their own school. Closing Western High and just assuming that that entire part of the city was gonna be oldies and elitists forever was incredibly short sighted.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:33
Subject: Re:Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Agree with 13:19.
These endless complaints about Ellington are as racist as they are classist. It's like you can't stand for poor kids from other parts of the city to have access to something nice, much less something nice in your backyard.
The more you spout this trash the less support you will find for your dream school to exclusively serve the 10% of students in DC schools who are white.
These endless complaints about Ellington are as racist as they are classist. It's like you can't stand for poor kids from other parts of the city to have access to something nice, much less something nice in your backyard.
The more you spout this trash the less support you will find for your dream school to exclusively serve the 10% of students in DC schools who are white.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:19
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
#sarcasm
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Let it go. That ship has sailed and the school would have to be totally re-renovated to work as a neighborhood high school. None of us can afford that.
Please. It would work just fine as a normal high school. Go over to Potomac and Bethesda and take a look at the incredibly awesome arts and music programs those cats have in their public high schools.
Getting creative with ideas, Ellington could easily become a city-wide, noncompetitive enrollment high school with competitive applications solely for after-school arts and music classes and clubs.
I don't get it. I don't know much about Duke Ellington (have a much younger child), but why is this still being argued about? It's done, it's not going to be undone because a few neighbors wish for the school to be "theirs," and it seems everyone's time could be more productively spent on something other idea. The optics alone make the prospect of taking DE from the arts community of mostly minority students a no go.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:12
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Public transportation is a cinch from Palisades to Wilson. The M4 bus goes from Sibley Hospital to Arizona and MacArthur, then goes up Arizona and Nebraska to Tenleytown. Quick, easy and free for students.
Cardozo would take about the same amount of time by bus. Pretty straight shot.
Ok there could be a dedicated WMATA bus, the same as for Shepherd to Deal.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:11
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Let it go. That ship has sailed and the school would have to be totally re-renovated to work as a neighborhood high school. None of us can afford that.
Please. It would work just fine as a normal high school. Go over to Potomac and Bethesda and take a look at the incredibly awesome arts and music programs those cats have in their public high schools.
Getting creative with ideas, Ellington could easily become a city-wide, noncompetitive enrollment high school with competitive applications solely for after-school arts and music classes and clubs.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:08
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Public transportation is a cinch from Palisades to Wilson. The M4 bus goes from Sibley Hospital to Arizona and MacArthur, then goes up Arizona and Nebraska to Tenleytown. Quick, easy and free for students.
Cardozo would take about the same amount of time by bus. Pretty straight shot.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:06
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
The wealthy AA constituency wanted to flex its muscle in the face of WOTP residents. It was a dumb power play that doomed many talented AA arts students to 60-90 minute commutes. Just so DESA's wealthy proponents and politicians could say "hey, we showed THOSE PEOPLE in Georgetown who's boss in DC."
It was a childish decision by adults that ignored the needs of actual kids.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:06
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Public transportation is a cinch from Palisades to Wilson. The M4 bus goes from Sibley Hospital to Arizona and MacArthur, then goes up Arizona and Nebraska to Tenleytown. Quick, easy and free for students.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:05
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Yup, that decision is looking worse and worse each year.
Once you remove all the PG county students from the enrollment, the place is monstrously huge but barely occupied.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:05
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Let it go. That ship has sailed and the school would have to be totally re-renovated to work as a neighborhood high school. None of us can afford that.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:04
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Yup, that decision is looking worse and worse each year.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 13:00
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
The Palisadesians should still be crying over that one. At the outer edge of the city, they lost their only accessible public high school in Western High. No political weight in D.C., ha ha! If I lived way out there, I'd be trying to get into a Montgomery County high school and pay the tuition.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 12:57
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.
Sorry meant to say grossly under-enrolled EOTP HS.
Anonymous
12/19/2018 12:57
Subject: Deal is tremendously overcrowded - something is to give
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You could just send the Hardy kids to Cardozo. Problem solved.
Yes, sending kids who live in the Palisades to Cardozo completely makes sense from the standpoint of "neighborhood schools."
pffft. Like it's a cinch to drive from Palisades to Wilson, either.
Or take public transportation.
But it does again highlight the stupidity of the Ellington renovation when the school instead could have been re-opened as Western and Ellington moved to one of the grossly under-enrolled WOTP school.
But for whatever reason lots of Ellington boosters think the school needs to be in Georgetown despite the lack of links to any nearby performing arts institutions or students from Georgetown.