Anonymous
Post 02/08/2019 18:59     Subject: DA dropping the U12 age group?
I think that the main change is indeed for the U12-only clubs, which will lose their DA affiliation.
I wonder whether it aims primarily at making the DA appears more "elite" (there are only 132 U-13 DA teams, vs. 153 U12 teams) and reduce the risk that the MLS clubs create their own MLS-only youth league...
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2019 17:06     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:Official announcement now on US Soccer DA site: http://www.ussoccerda.com/changes_to_u12_programming_1920

http://www.ussoccerda.com/changes_to_u12_programming_1920


Looks like the DA clubs will be running the u12 programs on their own, aligned with what has been articulated above. So DA level training and environment with less travel. Sounds a lot like u13 GDA, other than the lack of central programming for the u13s. The u12 only clubs get hit, but not a lot of “bad” change for anyone else.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2019 17:04     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:Official announcement now on US Soccer DA site: http://www.ussoccerda.com/changes_to_u12_programming_1920

http://www.ussoccerda.com/changes_to_u12_programming_1920


Thanks! I guess the question is are these 2008 ID sessions going to be for a new 'pre-DA team' at these Clubs that offer DA, e.g.,, are they different from their existing 'A teams'. Are they playing in the same leagues, etc.? Or- is there a 'pre-DA league' in the zones?

It raises a lot of questions. Also, is it worth just staying with your home Club another year since it won't be DA?

If anyone has insider info, much appreciated.
Anonymous
Post 02/08/2019 13:56     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Official announcement now on US Soccer DA site: http://www.ussoccerda.com/changes_to_u12_programming_1920

http://www.ussoccerda.com/changes_to_u12_programming_1920
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 11:58     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, all of boy DA clubs are still running ID sessions for 2008/09 boys. Is USSDA still gonna drop U12 DA next season?


Here’s the link for Loudoun’s DA sessions:

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/da/boysda/datalentidcenters/

Looks like they are fielding a DA team in that age group as well. I think only the programming was at issue, but the DA clubs were given the responsibility of managing that instead of US Soccer. Seems what I thought might happen is the case; the clubs are going to continue the age group and align the programming with US soccer’s schedules for the older age groups. So that means while US Soccer saves some cash for referee and scout time, the clubs keep their extra revenue stream, players get their chances to break into the club at younger ages and benefit from the DA training, clubs apply the same curriculum, and the tier of competition is retained.

Seems like a win for all involved.


Do you think they are going to continue to have 2 9v9 teams at U12? Seems to me like that was part of the headache. Logistically it's a challenge b/c some clubs have the field space for simultaneous side-by-side games and others have to do them back-to back. It also causes a ton of stress b/c so many of the U12s are not going to make the U13 team. The stress level ramps up big time in the winter, and gets worse and worse all spring. Every game, every decision, every touch is put under a microscope by the parents. It wasn't so much of a problem the 1st year they did the U12s - when it was 04/05 - because most teams had a lot of 05s mixed in. So not too many 04s got cut when they made the jump to U14, and none of the 05s got cut because clubs needed to build 11v11 rosters for U13. Last year it was brutal for the U12s though. Would be easier to just start with 1 9v9 team and then gradually build to a 11v11 roster.


You can fit two 9x9 fields into one 11v11 size field (use each half as one 9x9 field, tangential direction to 11v11 play). There shouldn't be a problem for any club to meet the requirement, in theory, assuming they have properly sized fields to work with. Just play the 9v9 games simultaneously, prior to or post the 11v11 games.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 11:54     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, all of boy DA clubs are still running ID sessions for 2008/09 boys. Is USSDA still gonna drop U12 DA next season?


Here’s the link for Loudoun’s DA sessions:

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/da/boysda/datalentidcenters/

Looks like they are fielding a DA team in that age group as well. I think only the programming was at issue, but the DA clubs were given the responsibility of managing that instead of US Soccer. Seems what I thought might happen is the case; the clubs are going to continue the age group and align the programming with US soccer’s schedules for the older age groups. So that means while US Soccer saves some cash for referee and scout time, the clubs keep their extra revenue stream, players get their chances to break into the club at younger ages and benefit from the DA training, clubs apply the same curriculum, and the tier of competition is retained.

Seems like a win for all involved.


Easy to say it on paper. Not sure if any of the clubs has an idea about how it will be rolled out for the u12 when DA programming is no longer there.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 10:28     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, all of boy DA clubs are still running ID sessions for 2008/09 boys. Is USSDA still gonna drop U12 DA next season?


Here’s the link for Loudoun’s DA sessions:

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/da/boysda/datalentidcenters/

Looks like they are fielding a DA team in that age group as well. I think only the programming was at issue, but the DA clubs were given the responsibility of managing that instead of US Soccer. Seems what I thought might happen is the case; the clubs are going to continue the age group and align the programming with US soccer’s schedules for the older age groups. So that means while US Soccer saves some cash for referee and scout time, the clubs keep their extra revenue stream, players get their chances to break into the club at younger ages and benefit from the DA training, clubs apply the same curriculum, and the tier of competition is retained.

Seems like a win for all involved.


Do you think they are going to continue to have 2 9v9 teams at U12? Seems to me like that was part of the headache. Logistically it's a challenge b/c some clubs have the field space for simultaneous side-by-side games and others have to do them back-to back. It also causes a ton of stress b/c so many of the U12s are not going to make the U13 team. The stress level ramps up big time in the winter, and gets worse and worse all spring. Every game, every decision, every touch is put under a microscope by the parents. It wasn't so much of a problem the 1st year they did the U12s - when it was 04/05 - because most teams had a lot of 05s mixed in. So not too many 04s got cut when they made the jump to U14, and none of the 05s got cut because clubs needed to build 11v11 rosters for U13. Last year it was brutal for the U12s though. Would be easier to just start with 1 9v9 team and then gradually build to a 11v11 roster.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 08:21     Subject: DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, Arlington DOC announced that U12 boys and girls are both gone. Do your homework.


Where/when was this announced? Publicly? They are still holding ID sessions.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 08:17     Subject: DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, Arlington DOC announced that U12 boys and girls are both gone. Do your homework.


Why make statements like this? Here is a recent announcement for Arlington DA ID session for 2009/09 boys. See https://arlingtonsoccer.demosphere-secure.com/programs/development-academy/talent-id

Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 08:03     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly, all of boy DA clubs are still running ID sessions for 2008/09 boys. Is USSDA still gonna drop U12 DA next season?


Here’s the link for Loudoun’s DA sessions:

http://www.loudounsoccer.com/da/boysda/datalentidcenters/

Looks like they are fielding a DA team in that age group as well. I think only the programming was at issue, but the DA clubs were given the responsibility of managing that instead of US Soccer. Seems what I thought might happen is the case; the clubs are going to continue the age group and align the programming with US soccer’s schedules for the older age groups. So that means while US Soccer saves some cash for referee and scout time, the clubs keep their extra revenue stream, players get their chances to break into the club at younger ages and benefit from the DA training, clubs apply the same curriculum, and the tier of competition is retained.

Seems like a win for all involved.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 07:57     Subject: DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, Arlington DOC announced that U12 boys and girls are both gone. Do your homework.


Ummm there never was a girls u12 DA.....
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2019 07:39     Subject: DA dropping the U12 age group?
Yes, Arlington DOC announced that U12 boys and girls are both gone. Do your homework.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2019 22:31     Subject: Re:DA dropping the U12 age group?
Interestingly, all of boy DA clubs are still running ID sessions for 2008/09 boys. Is USSDA still gonna drop U12 DA next season?
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2018 11:30     Subject: DA dropping the U12 age group?
Anonymous wrote:If you are a pointing to a club arguing they are good at developing players because of their track record developing GKs, you don't get it.

+1
Anonymous
Post 12/06/2018 21:01     Subject: DA dropping the U12 age group?
If you don’t want people to defend a club stop making generalizations about them. Especially clubs with a track record of success. Makes you look both clueless and envious.