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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

+1000. That might also help Langley parents understand others face challenges more significant than sitting in traffic in their Range Rovers.

Huh. I drive a ten yr. old minivan... does that mean I'm not qualified to be a Langley parent? And what about all those other parents like me? But sure, continue focusing your rage on the stereotypical wealth that you think all Langley families have.

We just moved to the Langley pyramid and surprised how modest many of the families are. There are townhouses and older smaller homes in McLean. Some families sacrifice to pay for more expensive housing. Not everyone is loaded like it is often implied on these boards.

Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

DP. There is actually a large townhouse community that is zoned for Langley. But you don't have to live in a townhouse or apartment to live in a small, modest home - which are plentiful throughout the area. It's pretty obvious you're only going to see what you want to see and that you don't actually live in McLean or Great Falls or you'd know exactly what the PP describes.

Stop digging. You are just embarrassing yourself now.

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Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

Yes! This! Does the special interest group that is lobbying this asinine cause think that the rest of us in the DMV don’t sit in standstill traffic during the rush hours? Try traversing the Lewinsville/123 intersection or the Kirby/Westmoreland intersection during rush hour and you will see that we face the same issues on the other side of McLean. Langley folks are getting a bad rap on this issue because their attitude is essentially “not in my backayard”.

Your issue is not the same at all because it involves other VA drivers using VA roads. The Langley area situation is completely about MD drivers using the local roads to gain access to the beltway, when they could use the toll road to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

+1000. That might also help Langley parents understand others face challenges more significant than sitting in traffic in their Range Rovers.

Huh. I drive a ten yr. old minivan... does that mean I'm not qualified to be a Langley parent? And what about all those other parents like me? But sure, continue focusing your rage on the stereotypical wealth that you think all Langley families have.

We just moved to the Langley pyramid and surprised how modest many of the families are. There are townhouses and older smaller homes in McLean. Some families sacrifice to pay for more expensive housing. Not everyone is loaded like it is often implied on these boards.

Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

DP. There is actually a large townhouse community that is zoned for Langley. But you don't have to live in a townhouse or apartment to live in a small, modest home - which are plentiful throughout the area. It's pretty obvious you're only going to see what you want to see and that you don't actually live in McLean or Great Falls or you'd know exactly what the PP describes.

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Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

Yes! This! Does the special interest group that is lobbying this asinine cause think that the rest of us in the DMV don’t sit in standstill traffic during the rush hours? Try traversing the Lewinsville/123 intersection or the Kirby/Westmoreland intersection during rush hour and you will see that we face the same issues on the other side of McLean. Langley folks are getting a bad rap on this issue because their attitude is essentially “not in my backayard”.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

+1000. That might also help Langley parents understand others face challenges more significant than sitting in traffic in their Range Rovers.

Huh. I drive a ten yr. old minivan... does that mean I'm not qualified to be a Langley parent? And what about all those other parents like me? But sure, continue focusing your rage on the stereotypical wealth that you think all Langley families have.

We just moved to the Langley pyramid and surprised how modest many of the families are. There are townhouses and older smaller homes in McLean. Some families sacrifice to pay for more expensive housing. Not everyone is loaded like it is often implied on these boards.

Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

+1000. That might also help Langley parents understand others face challenges more significant than sitting in traffic in their Range Rovers.

Huh. I drive a ten yr. old minivan... does that mean I'm not qualified to be a Langley parent? And what about all those other parents like me? But sure, continue focusing your rage on the stereotypical wealth that you think all Langley families have.

We just moved to the Langley pyramid and surprised how modest many of the families are. There are townhouses and older smaller homes in McLean. Some families sacrifice to pay for more expensive housing. Not everyone is loaded like it is often implied on these boards.

Very few townhouses and no apartments are zoned to Langley, and there is nothing modest about trying to offload the traffic in your area onto other neighborhoods. It’s the height of arrogance.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

+1000. That might also help Langley parents understand others face challenges more significant than sitting in traffic in their Range Rovers.

Huh. I drive a ten yr. old minivan... does that mean I'm not qualified to be a Langley parent? And what about all those other parents like me? But sure, continue focusing your rage on the stereotypical wealth that you think all Langley families have.

We just moved to the Langley pyramid and surprised how modest many of the families are. There are townhouses and older smaller homes in McLean. Some families sacrifice to pay for more expensive housing. Not everyone is loaded like it is often implied on these boards.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

+1000. That might also help Langley parents understand others face challenges more significant than sitting in traffic in their Range Rovers.

Huh. I drive a ten yr. old minivan... does that mean I'm not qualified to be a Langley parent? And what about all those other parents like me? But sure, continue focusing your rage on the stereotypical wealth that you think all Langley families have.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Repeating this over and over does not make it true. Langley isn't under-enrolled.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a parent who just arrived at Langley to pick up my student. It is now 3:49. I was stuck on GTP, as usual, for 25 minutes over a stretch of two miles - from Spring Hill Road to Cooper MS. The line of MD drivers - in both directions - trying to get to the Beltway north ramp was unreal. Not only was GTP at a standstill, but so was Swinks Mill, Balls Hill, and Dead Run. All MD drivers headed for that ramp, along with some very frustrated VA drivers just trying to use GTP.

A PP asked why students would be headed east on GTP at this hour - many are parents trying to get to LHS to pick up our kids who have to stay after. There are late buses that run on certain days, but they leave school much later and get stuck in the same traffic, making the kids that much later.

VDOT, if you happen to be reading this, PLEASE close the northbound beltway ramp off of GTP in the afternoons, starting at least by 2:15. There is no reason our local drivers, including teachers, parents, and students, should have to wait in this insane traffic jam just so Maryland drivers can get a toll-free shortcut home.

Are Langley parents out of their mind! I can't even begin to think of a more entitled response than this. Close off a beltway exit starting at 2 for people that bring millions into the County so that a stay at home mom can pick up their high schooler rather than him or her waiting at the school before sports games or God forbid riding a bus or driving home themselves. I really have heard everything now. I'm just so disgusted with these people. They gerrymandered boundaries, restrict apartments in their neighborhoods, throw a temper tantrum over a small senior living facility taking up valuable time when our supervisors could have been reviewing other areas of the county more fully, throw another temper tantrum over airplanes over their neighborhood. The list goes on and on. If I were a supervisor, I'd start talking about widening the road and/or moving these kids to other schools right away. Can we do something to shut up the whining about parents picking up kids from the high school when there is a perfectly good bus available?

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

+1000. That might also help Langley parents understand others face challenges more significant than sitting in traffic in their Range Rovers.

Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

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Anonymous wrote:Clearly the ramp should not be closed and the solution is to move students in Great Falls to closer schools in Herndon or Reston. Langley is under-enrolled and FCPS can redistrict multi-family housing in Tysons there to fill empty seats.

Langley is most definitely NOT under enrolled.

Since the majority of commuters are from MD, it makes sense that MD should have a wider bridge. MD offers zero incentives for business on their side of the river, obviously. Why aren't Marylanders working on that? VA doesn't care what MD wants, obviously.

It most definitely IS under-enrolled: 1923 kids this fall at a school with a 2100-student capacity. The Langley enrollment is down over 170 kids from a decade ago. In comparison, Marshall’s enrollment over the same period has increased by over 800 students and McLean’s by almost 500.

Since Langley has space, and almost no low-income students, the obvious solution is to move multi-family housing in Tysons - closer to Langley than the Great Falls neighborhoods where parents are complaining about the traffic on Georgetown Pike - to Langley and move the GF neighborhoods to Herndon or South Lakes as soon as those schools can accommodate them. FCPS projects Herndon at 95% of capacity and South Lakes at 90% in 2022, so it seems quite doable.

Where are the tysons students go? Why wouldn’t they go to Langley?

I heard some apartments are zoned for Spring Hill Elementary, which is a Langley pyramid school. But then those same students are zoned for Longfellow and McLean high and not Cooper/Langley. That doesn’t make any sense.