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Again, there are many people who never do those things for any number of reasons: they may have a spouse or family member who does most of the logistics of their lives, and they may not have adequate transportation themselves. Many people are dependent on a family member but this does not mean that they should not be allowed to vote.

No. There are not "many people" like this.

You don't get out much. Yes, yes there are.

And why would the Supreme Court say that native americans in North Dakota cannot use PO boxes, common in rural areas, for their voter registrations? That is totally discriminatory.

It was stated they could use a common address. People in rural areas have addresses but no mail service.

Some do, some don’t. I worked elections in Michigan; while I never had anyone in the rolls without an address, we were trained to accept “the blue house on the unmarked dirt road two driveways down from the intersection of RR 23 (Rural Route, for those who only know urban areas) and old M61.”

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My elderly parents have never used ID for most of this, they started everything back in the 1950s and never changed a thing. No rent, they own their house. They never file for unemployment, they never buy alcohol or cigarettes. They have never moved once since the bought their house 60 years ago. They are elderly, they don't travel. They had a library card since the 60s. Libraries use bills or mail for confirmation as well.

And, they don't use Medicare? Collect Social Security?

You don’t have to have an ID for this! My great-grandfather didn’t have an ID either. My great-grandmother drove, so she had a license.

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Anonymous wrote:https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/brian-kemp-is-blocking-53k-applicants-from-registering-to-vote-most-of-them-black

This will cost Abrams the Governorship.

The only way the GOP can win is to cheat.

“Kemp’s office has cancelled over 1.4m voter registrations since 2012. Nearly 670k registrations were cancelled in 2017 alone... Georgia's population is approximately 32% black, but the voter registrations on hold with Kemp’s office are nearly 70% black."
https://www.wabe.org/voting-rights-become-a-flashpoint-in-georgia-governors-race/

I was just coming here to post this. This is disgusting. Look, GOP voters. Look at this. Look at how you have to cheat to win. Look at how you have to screw over black people to do it. If you want to know why so many liberals call you racists, here is but one more reason why.

Terrible

I was also just coming here to post this.

Many of the registrations are being held up or cancelled over things like a missing hyphen.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/410839-53k-georgia-voter-registration-applications-on-hold-in-kemps-office-report

You Republicans are disgusting. There aren't even any Republicans nationwide who are standing up to this sleazebag tactics and calling them out.

I've had it with your unethical, sleazy ways. You can't win without resorting to cheating and the people you pick on with your crooked tactics are those Americans with the least amount of power, people who have come from generations similarly oppressed. You are cowards and will go down in history alongside the confederates and segregationists as the most horrible of Americans.

i’ll help You PP. those confederates? Mostly democrats. Jim Crow laws? Democrats. KKK? Noticing a pattern? Democrats. Enjoy throwing stones from the sundeck of your giant freaking glass house

At that time, Republicans were the liberal party at the time, Lincoln was a Republican. Parties change, dating all the way back to the Loyalists and Tories, Federalists and Anti-Federalists, etc.

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Again, there are many people who never do those things for any number of reasons: they may have a spouse or family member who does most of the logistics of their lives, and they may not have adequate transportation themselves. Many people are dependent on a family member but this does not mean that they should not be allowed to vote.

No. There are not "many people" like this.

You don't get out much. Yes, yes there are.

And why would the Supreme Court say that native americans in North Dakota cannot use PO boxes, common in rural areas, for their voter registrations? That is totally discriminatory.

It’s not just on reservations. I lived in Williston, and the only delivery for anyone in “temporary” housing (not a house on a foundation) was a post office box. Watched City does the same thing. On the reservations, there’s no delivery in town, limited out of town and only if you’re on an established route.

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't these same people complaining about all the other things in ordinary life that require presenting ID?

How come no one is protesting showing ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes? Or prescription meds? Or to receive govt benefits?

How is it the *only* thing people get outraged about having to show ID for, is *voting*? Being required to show ID for all the other stuff is fine with them.

It really is a magical contradiction, isn't it?

Are those things enshrined in our constitution as a right?

Just like free speech and gun ownership has responsibilities attached to them, so does voting.

The responsibility is to go vote. It's not for one group of citizens to do what they can to make it harder for other citizens to vote.

That's like saying that the responsibility of gun owners is to go shoot guns. For practice, maybe. But this is absolutely not all of their responsibility. They have a responsibility to follow gun laws, ensure the safe keeping of their guns, and to exercise all due caution in the handling of their guns.

The responsibility of a voter includes ensuring that he/she follow voting laws to remain eligible to vote.

When someone registers to vote and votes sporadically, the state should not just remove them. It raises a barrier to re-register, particularly when the registration process is altered and is cumbersome. For example, some counties have a central registration location that may only be accessible via car. As another example, the Florida online registration system was down all weekend. How is that fair?

Some people are also not notified that they are no longer registered.

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Anonymous wrote:“A study of Florida’s past two presidential elections finds that mail ballots were 10 times more likely to be rejected than votes cast at early voting sites or on election day.

The study also found that mail ballots cast by youngest voters, blacks and Hispanics were much more likely to be rejected than mail ballots cast by white voters, and that those voters are less likely to cure problems with their ballots when notified by election supervisors than other voters.”

http://amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article218654810.html?__twitter_impression=true

It’s odd how it’s the black voter who gets screwed over time and time again.

A little bit of reading of the linked story reveals this:

"The main reasons why mail ballots are rejected are that a voter didn’t sign the ballot envelope or that the voter’s signature on the envelope did not match the voter’s signature on file with the county elections office."

I guess signatures are racist now. Especially when you can't sign your own.

When it’s applied like Georgia’s is, yeah, it’s just racism. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/brian-kemp-voter-mismatch-georgia-stolen-election.html

I can’t believe the lengths you people will go to in order to defend the GOP’s wholly unethical, probably illegal and entirely undemocratic actions. You know if you can’t win without all this cheating, you aren’t really winning at all. It’s like the East Germans doping at the Olymics back in the day. You guys are doping and you should probably have your medals stripped.

Can we revoke the gun permits of 107,000 Georgians who've never shot anybody?

“Access to the ballot box in November will be more difficult for some people in Dodge City, where Hispanics now make up 60 percent of its population and have remade an iconic Wild West town that once was the destination of cowboys and buffalo hunters who frequented the Long Branch Saloon.

At a time when many rural towns are slowly dying, the arrival of two massive meatpacking plants boosted Dodge City’s economy and transformed its demographics as immigrants from Mexico and other countries flooded in to fill those jobs.

But the city located 160 miles west of Wichita has only one polling site for its 27,000 residents. Since 2002, the lone site was at the civic center just blocks from the local country club — in the wealthy, white part of town. For this November’s election, local officials have moved it outside the city limits to a facility more than a mile from the nearest bus stop, citing road construction that blocked the previous site.”

http://amp.kansas.com/news/business/article220286260.html?__twitter_impression=true

“North Carolina's stated reason for shutting down Sunday voting was that counties with heavy Sunday voting were disproportionately African-American, and that African-Americans tended to be Democrats.”
- Harold Pollack, Professor, University of Chicago
http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/7-29-16%204th%20Circuit%20NAACP%20v%20NC.pdf

Suppress low information voters..

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Anonymous wrote:“A study of Florida’s past two presidential elections finds that mail ballots were 10 times more likely to be rejected than votes cast at early voting sites or on election day.

The study also found that mail ballots cast by youngest voters, blacks and Hispanics were much more likely to be rejected than mail ballots cast by white voters, and that those voters are less likely to cure problems with their ballots when notified by election supervisors than other voters.”

http://amp.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article218654810.html?__twitter_impression=true

It’s odd how it’s the black voter who gets screwed over time and time again.

A little bit of reading of the linked story reveals this:

"The main reasons why mail ballots are rejected are that a voter didn’t sign the ballot envelope or that the voter’s signature on the envelope did not match the voter’s signature on file with the county elections office."

I guess signatures are racist now. Especially when you can't sign your own.

Anonymous wrote:It is an interesting point however - the people who have the most problem getting birth certificates are older/rural folks (usually rural black voters) who might have been born out of hospital or in a completely different location from where they live now. And who were born in a time before any digital records. I could see a time in the fairly near future where everyone has access to digital records so birth certificates will be much easier to track down. Wonder what the next voter suppression strategy will be after that. Polls only open 9-5 on Election Day? Getting rid of all early voting? Making people re-register after every election? Return of the poll tax? Only half joking about that last one.

The voting rights ID issue is a part of a bigger ID crisis.

There are a lot of poor people, and especially homeless people, who lack ID, or any ability to get ID, because they've lost their old ID, and they lack any ability to get what they need to qualify to receive new ID.

Or, they may even have some or all of the right documents, but, if they lack what the government classifies as an address, they may have trouble getting ID because they have no address.

We probably ought to have a federal agency, or a system of state agencies, that does nothing but create provisional IDs that poor people can use to get emergency food and medical services.

North Carolina began early voting today but has 20% fewer early voting locations in 2018 than in 2014. Nearly half of state's 100 counties are closing polling places because of law passed by GOP legislature in June.
https://www.propublica.org/article/bipartisan-furor-as-north-carolina-election-law-shrinks-early-voting-locations-by-almost-20-percent

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Again, there are many people who never do those things for any number of reasons: they may have a spouse or family member who does most of the logistics of their lives, and they may not have adequate transportation themselves. Many people are dependent on a family member but this does not mean that they should not be allowed to vote.

No. There are not "many people" like this.

You don't get out much. Yes, yes there are.

And why would the Supreme Court say that native americans in North Dakota cannot use PO boxes, common in rural areas, for their voter registrations? That is totally discriminatory.

It was stated they could use a common address. People in rural areas have addresses but no mail service.

What is a “common address?” Do you even understand the issue? These tribes are having to create street addresses out of their imaginations and print out ids as we speak for anyone who wants to vote.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach wants a court to put off release of his videotaped deposition in a voting-rights case until after the election (he's running for governor), lest it be used in "last-minute political commercials."
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5006010-Stay-of-Execution.html