Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how they arrived at their fr/l calculations for the presentation? Because maybe this isn't so bad for Drew after all. If the calculated fr/l numbers are much higher than the current actual numbers, what can Drew expect? For instance, here are the actual 2017 fr/l percentages by school vs. the calculated % in the presentation:
Abingdon: 47.16% vs. 52%
Barcroft: 59.67% vs. 62%
Henry: 31.59% vs. 29%
Hoffman Boston: 49.16% vs. 70%
Oakridge: 25.28% vs. 28%
Randolph: 73.67% vs. 92%
Do if Drew is calculated to be 85%, what is the actual? Seems like it, too, would be significantly lower? Maybe more like 65%?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
And I'm saying don't expect any solidarity from Drew when you print matching tshirts to avoid being rezoned to Drew.
Gotcha. FWIW, I’m 3 blocks from Fleet, so rezoning wouldn’t have personally affected me. Just supporting keeping my community together when we feel that that was promised to us. Although I see how your view that differently.
Yep, you all got what you felt you were promised (even though you weren’t), to keep yourselves together away from Drew. I dont live in the middle of any of this and even I could see straight through your rhetoric. If Drew had been some prize, it would have been like when they did the boundaries for Discovery and sure, the Nottingham people were bummed about splitting up the community, but none of the folks going to Discovery fought too hard because look where they were going. Some of you would have coped with Drew if it had a slide and was a little more white.
And the whole claim of a promise is so ridiculous. What school gets a promise that none of its planning units will be moved in a full boundary redrawing? What is the precedent for that? It’s kind of embarrassing that you all kept waiving that out there as if the rest of us were stupid enough to believe anyone in a position to make those decisions would actually promise that.
Yes, I’m such a bad person for wanting to keep the planning units that give about 30% of Henry’s farms rate with Henry. Since you don’t live anywhere near here, consider going to a Nauck civic assn meeting and hearing what that community wanted. Not all communities want rich, white influx (not that they would have got that with those Henry planning units). I certainly don’t want rich NA planning units at fleet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
And I'm saying don't expect any solidarity from Drew when you print matching tshirts to avoid being rezoned to Drew.
Gotcha. FWIW, I’m 3 blocks from Fleet, so rezoning wouldn’t have personally affected me. Just supporting keeping my community together when we feel that that was promised to us. Although I see how your view that differently.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
And I'm saying don't expect any solidarity from Drew when you print matching tshirts to avoid being rezoned to Drew.
Gotcha. FWIW, I’m 3 blocks from Fleet, so rezoning wouldn’t have personally affected me. Just supporting keeping my community together when we feel that that was promised to us. Although I see how your view that differently.
Yep, you all got what you felt you were promised (even though you weren’t), to keep yourselves together away from Drew. I dont live in the middle of any of this and even I could see straight through your rhetoric. If Drew had been some prize, it would have been like when they did the boundaries for Discovery and sure, the Nottingham people were bummed about splitting up the community, but none of the folks going to Discovery fought too hard because look where they were going. Some of you would have coped with Drew if it had a slide and was a little more white.
And the whole claim of a promise is so ridiculous. What school gets a promise that none of its planning units will be moved in a full boundary redrawing? What is the precedent for that? It’s kind of embarrassing that you all kept waiving that out there as if the rest of us were stupid enough to believe anyone in a position to make those decisions would actually promise that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think APS staff have a larger plan in mind that they're not revealing. The proposed boundaries tip their hand.
Adding Columbia Forest helps balance (obviously not completely) the addition of Barcroft Apts to Drew. Abingdon loses the Columbia Forest PUs, but is slated to have boundaries changed again in the next round. Barcroft loses Barcroft Apts, but will gain Gilliam Place. Barcroft is also slated to have boundaries changed in the second round.
On net, Abingdon and Barcroft are losing PUs. Both schools are also, conveniently, adjacent to Carlin Springs' boundaries.
All of this is setting up Carlin Springs to become the new Spanish Immersion. Barcroft and Abingdon, and likely Ashlawn, will pick up the Carlin Springs PUs in the next round. Carlin Springs becomes the second Immersion school. (Claremont stays immersion.)
Drew's demographics are abysmal, but this process is setting up Ashlawn, Abingdon, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs for a better balance (potentially).
(And Key and ASFS both become neighborhood schools.)
How do you then explain the announced swap of Key and ASFS?
DP here. They proposed it to piss everyone off and make them throw tantrums (see multiple threads) so they could then back away and move immersion away from both.
I wouldn’t put it past them. When do they back away? During the next boundary process in Fall 2020? Isn’t one option to do the swap during the summer of 202?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
And I'm saying don't expect any solidarity from Drew when you print matching tshirts to avoid being rezoned to Drew.
Gotcha. FWIW, I’m 3 blocks from Fleet, so rezoning wouldn’t have personally affected me. Just supporting keeping my community together when we feel that that was promised to us. Although I see how your view that differently.
Anonymous wrote:^^^ Drew parent here. I don't think we need to go all VIVA SALA given the current predicament. Whether or not North Arlington wants poor students in their schools, the current reality as I accept it is that *no one* wants to be bused far away and we can't afford it anyway. The choice that I and the Henry parent have a dispute over is between keeping a school community basically entirely intact, or shaving some of that community off to go to Drew and help its FARMS rate. North Arlington can't solve that problem for us given circumstances as they currently exist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think APS staff have a larger plan in mind that they're not revealing. The proposed boundaries tip their hand.
Adding Columbia Forest helps balance (obviously not completely) the addition of Barcroft Apts to Drew. Abingdon loses the Columbia Forest PUs, but is slated to have boundaries changed again in the next round. Barcroft loses Barcroft Apts, but will gain Gilliam Place. Barcroft is also slated to have boundaries changed in the second round.
On net, Abingdon and Barcroft are losing PUs. Both schools are also, conveniently, adjacent to Carlin Springs' boundaries.
All of this is setting up Carlin Springs to become the new Spanish Immersion. Barcroft and Abingdon, and likely Ashlawn, will pick up the Carlin Springs PUs in the next round. Carlin Springs becomes the second Immersion school. (Claremont stays immersion.)
Drew's demographics are abysmal, but this process is setting up Ashlawn, Abingdon, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs for a better balance (potentially).
(And Key and ASFS both become neighborhood schools.)
How do you then explain the announced swap of Key and ASFS?
DP here. They proposed it to piss everyone off and make them throw tantrums (see multiple threads) so they could then back away and move immersion away from both.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:pAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did the livestream capture the "Keep Henry Together" t-shirts?
The takeaway from these materials is that Columbia Forest didn't see it coming until it was too late, and that a mass of white parents wearing matching tshirts gets what they want from APS every time.
While I tend to agree and know it can be hard to change these maps once a true proposal is out, this map exposes APS on the “loud well off white people” get what they want criticism. Some of the decisions imbedded are going to be hard to justify.
And for anyone looking at the Drew boundary, do some research. On other occasions, APS has said that across the park situation didn’t create contiguous planning units.
??? Who are you talking about?
I really, really wish they hadn’t built Fleet and forced Henry to move. They should have just built another elementary in crystal city. Between this and the career center, it has been a planning disaster and tearing our community apart.
Huh? Fleet/Henry just got exactly what they wanted: a brand new school, with a lower farms rate and no one rezoned. Next up they'll have their own low farms high school.
Nope. Henry wanted to stay at Henry and build on. We were told it couldn’t be done (and this was before Reed), and that if we moved Nauck would finally get it’s own elementary that they were denied in the past.
Lol, so you are upset that you don't get to stay in an old ugly building, and have to move, student body entirely intact, to a brand new school building? Please spare me this bs.
Or is that you feel guilty about acting out of self interest, and your part in creating a school that is over 80% poor at Drew? I could see how that might bother you. You chose your side though.
No, I’m not upset. Just trying to say that it’s too bad that now south Arlington is fighting each other when we should be a solid front. Honestly though, I now get how north Arlington gets tired of us. I guess it’s all relative.
And I'm saying don't expect any solidarity from Drew when you print matching tshirts to avoid being rezoned to Drew.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think APS staff have a larger plan in mind that they're not revealing. The proposed boundaries tip their hand.
Adding Columbia Forest helps balance (obviously not completely) the addition of Barcroft Apts to Drew. Abingdon loses the Columbia Forest PUs, but is slated to have boundaries changed again in the next round. Barcroft loses Barcroft Apts, but will gain Gilliam Place. Barcroft is also slated to have boundaries changed in the second round.
On net, Abingdon and Barcroft are losing PUs. Both schools are also, conveniently, adjacent to Carlin Springs' boundaries.
All of this is setting up Carlin Springs to become the new Spanish Immersion. Barcroft and Abingdon, and likely Ashlawn, will pick up the Carlin Springs PUs in the next round. Carlin Springs becomes the second Immersion school. (Claremont stays immersion.)
Drew's demographics are abysmal, but this process is setting up Ashlawn, Abingdon, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs for a better balance (potentially).
(And Key and ASFS both become neighborhood schools.)
How do you then explain the announced swap of Key and ASFS?
Anonymous wrote:I think APS staff have a larger plan in mind that they're not revealing. The proposed boundaries tip their hand.
Adding Columbia Forest helps balance (obviously not completely) the addition of Barcroft Apts to Drew. Abingdon loses the Columbia Forest PUs, but is slated to have boundaries changed again in the next round. Barcroft loses Barcroft Apts, but will gain Gilliam Place. Barcroft is also slated to have boundaries changed in the second round.
On net, Abingdon and Barcroft are losing PUs. Both schools are also, conveniently, adjacent to Carlin Springs' boundaries.
All of this is setting up Carlin Springs to become the new Spanish Immersion. Barcroft and Abingdon, and likely Ashlawn, will pick up the Carlin Springs PUs in the next round. Carlin Springs becomes the second Immersion school. (Claremont stays immersion.)
Drew's demographics are abysmal, but this process is setting up Ashlawn, Abingdon, Barcroft, and Carlin Springs for a better balance (potentially).
(And Key and ASFS both become neighborhood schools.)