Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 20:36     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought breasts weren't sexual?

That seems to be the position here frequently whenever breasts are discussed. That they aren't sexual. Now suddenly they are?

I really don't see this as a predator intentionally molesting someone. He reached around to side hug her. She is short, his hand touched the side of her boob, rather than her waist. He is focused on preaching / speaking. Should he have had the presence to immediately take his hand away - of course? He didn't. He may not have had a single thought about where his hand was touching. Her dress was a slippery material, he could feel his hand slipping, he readjusted it (again possibly without analyzing where it was).

She shouldn't have to deal with that and he should have quickly removed his hand. But lets not get carried away about a part of the body that isn't sexual and therefore is really no different than him touching her arm.


You don't touch ANY part of someone's body without their consent. Whether he touched her breast or not, he was holding her in a way that violated her personal space and she couldn't move away while looking visibly uncomfortable. Keep your hands to yourself, and you don't have to worry about misplacing your hands or them "accidentally" slipping onto a boob.


Are3 you special.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 20:32     Subject: Re:Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

The excuse that it was inadvertent doesn’t hold water since it was so extended. If it was unintentional he would have moved his hand after a second.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:57     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:I thought breasts weren't sexual?

That seems to be the position here frequently whenever breasts are discussed. That they aren't sexual. Now suddenly they are?

I really don't see this as a predator intentionally molesting someone. He reached around to side hug her. She is short, his hand touched the side of her boob, rather than her waist. He is focused on preaching / speaking. Should he have had the presence to immediately take his hand away - of course? He didn't. He may not have had a single thought about where his hand was touching. Her dress was a slippery material, he could feel his hand slipping, he readjusted it (again possibly without analyzing where it was).

She shouldn't have to deal with that and he should have quickly removed his hand. But lets not get carried away about a part of the body that isn't sexual and therefore is really no different than him touching her arm.


You don't touch ANY part of someone's body without their consent. Whether he touched her breast or not, he was holding her in a way that violated her personal space and she couldn't move away while looking visibly uncomfortable. Keep your hands to yourself, and you don't have to worry about misplacing your hands or them "accidentally" slipping onto a boob.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:43     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:

He was totally groping her side boob.


Yeah, seems like it

I can't imagine touching someone like that that I wasn't dating - really inappropriate
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:41     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

But really, who among us hasn't copped a sideboob feel at a funeral?
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:38     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

His fingers looked like he was doing a mammogram.

I felt very bad for her.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:37     Subject: Re:Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote: All of you who are making excuses for this man should be ashamed of yourselves.


Who is making excuses for this man? Only fellow sex offenders and Trump apologists.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:37     Subject: Re:Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is not about color. This is about Ariana is a mind controlled beta sex kitten. Did you see her recoil ? No. Because THIS is what her Disney kid training is for,

Anyone wanting to tap that last night did INCLUDING Hillary. That's what she's there for. You sign with the Devil you pay the devil dues. Her boyfriend knows the drill.


Is that you, Donald? What are you typing on with your little thumb and fingers?

Loser!!


Haha yeah, that post was pretty crazy
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:36     Subject: Re:Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:This is not about color. This is about Ariana is a mind controlled beta sex kitten. Did you see her recoil ? No. Because THIS is what her Disney kid training is for,

Anyone wanting to tap that last night did INCLUDING Hillary. That's what she's there for. You sign with the Devil you pay the devil dues. Her boyfriend knows the drill.


Is that you, Donald? What are you typing on with your little thumb and fingers?

Loser!!
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:28     Subject: Re:Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

All of you who are making excuses for this man should be ashamed of yourselves.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:13     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought breasts weren't sexual?

That seems to be the position here frequently whenever breasts are discussed. That they aren't sexual. Now suddenly they are?

I really don't see this as a predator intentionally molesting someone. He reached around to side hug her. She is short, his hand touched the side of her boob, rather than her waist. He is focused on preaching / speaking. Should he have had the presence to immediately take his hand away - of course? He didn't. He may not have had a single thought about where his hand was touching. Her dress was a slippery material, he could feel his hand slipping, he readjusted it (again possibly without analyzing where it was).

She shouldn't have to deal with that and he should have quickly removed his hand. But lets not get carried away about a part of the body that isn't sexual and therefore is really no different than him touching her arm.



This is every man’s defense when talking to HR. It was all just a misunderstanding!


Do you think that there can ever be a misunderstanding when it involves men or are men's intentions always the wrong ones? Do you think a man has ever unintentionally put his arm around a woman in a way that brushed her boob? Do you think men ever are focused on more than one thing at once and possibly do something absent minded?

What would the preacher gain by intentionally grabbing the boob of a famous woman on live TV in front of millions? Why would he want the world to see that? I dn't get the benefit for him of doing that intentionally?
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:13     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to point out that the bishop has apologized for both transgressions. As I said, earlier, young black folks would handle it and make sure he knew he was wrong, on both counts.

ttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/09/01/pastor-apologizes-to-ariana-grande-for-grazing-her-breast-at-aretha-franklins-funeral/?utm_term=.0c7c2bbf78a5


Young black folks are the only ones who called him out? Really??



Black folks WERE indeed the first to call it out and the ones who got him to apologize! Most of yall only found out about this because of this thread. It was HANDLED likely before this thread was even written. So just back up ok. Call out your own and stop worrying about what we're doing. Thanks.


Are you under the impression that only Black people should speak out about a man groping a woman? Because the perpetrator is Black? What about the victim?

"Call out your own" is ridiculous. Anyone who sees it can call it out. "Stop worrying about what we're doing?" Who gives a damn what you are doing? Did someone make you the spokesperson for all Black people? Thanks, indeed.


This “call out your own” business is a response to someone early in the thread commenting that black people would give this guy a pass on both the touching and the racial comment because he’s black. It’s the same kind of mentality that causes some white people to respond to rage about yet another unjustified killing of a black man by a cop by questioning why black people don’t care about “black on black crime” (an assumption that is a distraction and not true). Personally, I am an AA person who is happy to have everyone call out this awful, creepy guy.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 19:11     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Lets not make it about race. This is about sexually predatory men. They could be sexually abusing women, children, disabled or incapacitated people. And they believe two things - 1) They have the right to do this AND
2) They can get away with this.

Sex for a power trip, sex for perversion.

- Asian woman.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 18:55     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I see him touching her side. Possibly not the best look but I wouldn’t call it groping or touching inappropriately.


Are you a man or a woman? Most woman recognize it for what it is, but men continue to give the benefit of doubt. I do not know if most men are MALICIOUS but they certainly are OBLIVIOUS.

I have made my teen daughter and son watch this and talked about it.


I'm the OP and I'm a man

I posted this because I might be oblivious

To me, this seems very inappropriate but he didn't actually grab her noon

That being said, the comments about him controlling her and squeezing her close to him make perfect sense

The Washington Post headline said he grazed her breast


He was totally groping her side boob.
Anonymous
Post 09/01/2018 18:28     Subject: Ariana Grande touched inappropriately at Aretha Franklin funeral

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to point out that the bishop has apologized for both transgressions. As I said, earlier, young black folks would handle it and make sure he knew he was wrong, on both counts.

ttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/09/01/pastor-apologizes-to-ariana-grande-for-grazing-her-breast-at-aretha-franklins-funeral/?utm_term=.0c7c2bbf78a5


Young black folks are the only ones who called him out? Really??



Black folks WERE indeed the first to call it out and the ones who got him to apologize! Most of yall only found out about this because of this thread. It was HANDLED likely before this thread was even written. So just back up ok. Call out your own and stop worrying about what we're doing. Thanks.


Are you under the impression that only Black people should speak out about a man groping a woman? Because the perpetrator is Black? What about the victim?

"Call out your own" is ridiculous. Anyone who sees it can call it out. "Stop worrying about what we're doing?" Who gives a damn what you are doing? Did someone make you the spokesperson for all Black people? Thanks, indeed.


Black person here (not the person you are responding too) and that PP can definitely be a spokesperson for me on this site. Carry on spokesperson and educate the masses who believe they already know so much.



That person does not speak for all of us. Geesh. Let’s get back on topic