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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives study science, technology, engineering, medicine, etc. That's why we make all the money. We don't need your kind of schools, thank you.

Then why do conservatives eschew climate change, science and evolution?

I am a conservative and I believe in all of those things.

Your party doesn't.

What makes you conservative?

NP - I also am a conservative and believe in all of those things (climate change, science -- I'm in the medical profession -- and evolution.)

By "my party," I assume you mean the Republican party. It is true that I most often vote that way, but usually because it's the lesser of the two evils presented, as in the case of Trump in 2016.

What makes me a "conservative," (as opposed to Republican): I believe in American exceptionalism. I am a religious Christian. I believe the governments (federal, state, municipal), are bloated bureaucracies and should be cut back in size and influence over everyday lives. I believe in individualism, free markets, a strong national defense and, I guess you would say, "traditional" American values.

Anonymous wrote:Another question: why don't Asians have their own Harvards?
They have to money to set up such a school today.
From what they say, there are tons of highly qualified Asian academicians to support the student body and faculty.
This could all happen overnight. Merit based admissions only
Or is it that some people who complain about Harvard, simply do not have the wear with all or the patience to do such a thing? Are the same groups who are complaining about the admission policies too focused on fast money to pay attention to slower paced academics?

They don't have to. They just use the system to over turn affirmative action. See prop 209 in CA.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here the reason I ask is that the right seems to be fixated on admissions to schools like HYP and affirmative action. Why do they even want to be there? Why not just have right wing school with stellar academics, envy of everyone, plus no affirmative action? My theory is that they are simply incapable of duplicating the same caliber of school. They are loud, but not very patient or hard working.

As it's already been pointed out, academics with no real-life experience tend to gravitate to political liberals. It has more to do with the type of people who gravitate to the life of the university - and nothing to do with the silly idea that political conservatives have no financial means of supporting a university.

Do you have experience at elite universities? You couldn't be more wrong.

Also, PP wasn't saying conservatives don't have the financial means to support a university; the issue is that right-wing politics (contemporarily conceived -- not right wing in the traditional sense, such as fiscal conservatism) are essentially incompatible with the culture of intellectual inquiry elite universities try to cultivate.

+1 Many Trumpsters say they want to go back to the way American used to be. Conservatives do not like change (progress) of any sort. They don't like the fact that automation has killed jobs (never mind that it has created more high paying jobs); they don't like that women want more equality, or (gasp) gays. They don't like that science has taken over religiosity (think Isaac Newton, but on a smaller scale); they want our teens to stay ignorant about their bodies and sex so don't want sex ed taught in schools.

Not all conservatives are like this. There are sane ones, but the current R party seems to have been overtaken by these extreme conservatives they hate any kind of progress or enlightened thinking.

Anonymous wrote:Another question: why don't Asians have their own Harvards?
They have to money to set up such a school today.
From what they say, there are tons of highly qualified Asian academicians to support the student body and faculty.
This could all happen overnight. Merit based admissions only
Or is it that some people who complain about Harvard, simply do not have the wear with all or the patience to do such a thing? Are the same groups who are complaining about the admission policies too focused on fast money to pay attention to slower paced academics?

Asians pay tax like everyone else to support grants and research money that's being poured into Harvard every year. WTF are you talking about? If you want to be like David Duke and have only your kind of folks at Harvard - all the while taking money in from everyone else in the country - GTFOH.

Another question: why don't Asians have their own Harvards?
They have to money to set up such a school today.
From what they say, there are tons of highly qualified Asian academicians to support the student body and faculty.
This could all happen overnight. Merit based admissions only
Or is it that some people who complain about Harvard, simply do not have the wear with all or the patience to do such a thing? Are the same groups who are complaining about the admission policies too focused on fast money to pay attention to slower paced academics?

Howard Buffett must have received a good education somewhere at least

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-10-12/monsanto-dupont-seeds-won-t-solve-hunger-howard-buffett-says

Here’s a rich Republican donating money. He gave a large sum to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (for vaccines in other countries and for k-12 education in this country that is given out after a mile of red tape and ridiculous self aggrandizing standards are met) and the rest was given to foundations that his own children run. Everything is very controlled which is not something tolerated at the University level.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN19V2QY

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives study science, technology, engineering, medicine, etc. That's why we make all the money. We don't need your kind of schools, thank you.

Then why do conservatives eschew climate change, science and evolution?

I am a conservative and I believe in all of those things.

Me too.

Me, too. Someone has been brainwashed to taint an entire group because of the views of a few. The Left has its nut jobs, too. That doesn't mean the are all nutty. Too bad so many of the Left can't make that same mental leap.

It’s how a US Presudential election was won. The damage from that election and the aftermath (lies, corruption, hate) is not going to fade into the background anytime soon.

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Anonymous wrote:Duke, UVA, Chicago.

Add Dartmouth to that. Now can those schools put an end to affirmative action and let everyone else do as they please concerning admissions? Is that a fair swap?

Dartmouth?! No. DD is there now and that school is far fromConservative!!

Chicago, Notre Dame and Duke.

Anonymous wrote:Is there something about their way of thinking that makes it impossible to recruit the brightest and the best?
All this talk about affirmative action would be trivial if the right had really good schools of their own.

It's path dependent and the result of incentives playing out over time. The "Left"---recognizing the inherent imprecision of this term---has successfully captured those institutions and uses their power to harass and purge wrong-thinkers. As they have always done. These institutions have the commanding heights---both in terms of institutional prestige and raw financial resources in endowments---that make it incredibly hard for parallel institutions to compete.

Because elite universities effectively have a monopoly on issuance of socially valuable credentials, students of all persuasions are essentially forced in that direction. And why move heaven and earth in a near-futile attempt to create competing institutions (which has succeeded in a few times and places, see for example George Mason), when it isn't all that hard to keep your mouth shut for a few years? Intellectual conservatives generally recognize academia as an uncongenial place for them and pursue other opportunities, or they keep their mouth shut if they pursue academic fields where it is possible to do so (engineering or the hard sciences, as compared to the humanities and the social sciences). A few iterations of this dynamic and you get what we have now -- an emergent intellectual monoculture where the gatekeepers barely have to act to maintain their position anymore (although they unquestionably do).

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives study science, technology, engineering, medicine, etc. That's why we make all the money. We don't need your kind of schools, thank you.

Then why do conservatives eschew climate change, science and evolution?

I am a conservative and I believe in all of those things.

Me too.

Me, too. Someone has been brainwashed to taint an entire group because of the views of a few. The Left has its nut jobs, too. That doesn't mean the are all nutty. Too bad so many of the Left can't make that same mental leap.

Maybe it is because conservatives overwhelmingly voted for a President and Vice President who think the earth is 6,000 years old, that light bulbs cause cancer, that vaccines cause autism, and that climate change is not real?

https://www.popsci.com/top-5-worst-mike-pence-quotes-on-science

Seems like an awful lot of "nutjobs".

How come "left wing" people -- I'm not talking about Democrats and Liberals -- don't have their own Harvards? You know why don't the anarchists, Marxists, and Greens have their own elite universities?

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives study science, technology, engineering, medicine, etc. That's why we make all the money. We don't need your kind of schools, thank you.

Then why do conservatives eschew climate change, science and evolution?

I am a conservative and I believe in all of those things.

Me too.

Me, too. Someone has been brainwashed to taint an entire group because of the views of a few. The Left has its nut jobs, too. That doesn't mean the are all nutty. Too bad so many of the Left can't make that same mental leap.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives study science, technology, engineering, medicine, etc. That's why we make all the money. We don't need your kind of schools, thank you.

Then why do conservatives eschew climate change, science and evolution?

I am a conservative and I believe in all of those things.

Me too.