Anonymous
06/21/2018 07:56
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
It is incumbent on businesses to adapt to the regulatory environment in which they seek or already do business , not the other way around .
Anonymous
06/21/2018 00:31
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:Points I've not heard mentioned:
There are other negative outcomes that result from employers not paying an actual wage besides income loss. When an employer pays you chump change and knows your are at the mercy of the guests paying your salary, they also don't respect your time very much.
Maybe some restaurants will consider relocating to areas with barely any sit down restaurants, like Wards 7 and 8, in order to make ends meet. Maybe diners will consider actually (gulp) travelling to wards 7 and 8 for meal prices that are more reasonable than downtown.
And maybe these "uneducated people with such a great entry into making a living" can actually do so because they won't have to go through 2-3 weeks of crap tips and crap wages because their manager is starting them at the bottom of the totem pole after training (with bad sections and bad guests.) If it's so easy for someone with no skills to enter this profitable job, why do 80% of my co-workers (server/bartenders) have BA.s?
I think we have a winner for the stupidest post on this thread. Do you honestly think that with labor cost increasing restaurants will now start locating east of the river? That makes absolutely no sense.
Anonymous
06/21/2018 00:01
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:For all the people that complain about all the chain restaurant versus locally owned,, prop 77 is going to kill off more local places. the folks who support prop 77 have NO IDEA how thin the margins are for locally owned places, this will force them to first cut staff and hours. But in the long run it will keep the locals from opening new businesses because their is no real profit. Get ready for more WAWAs instead of Pete's Pizza.... Hopefully council will overturn this.
Petes pizza is a chain, furthermore being a chain is no guarantee of success , just ask Toys R Us
Anonymous
06/20/2018 23:56
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:I’m a 20% tipper
Too but will definitely stop once this goes into effect. The idiots who voted for this have no idea the negative impact this will have. Locally owned businesses will stop opening and we will truly be nothing but chains. Activist are some of the dumbest people in this town. As for servers complaining they work at a dive bar and do t make much money?? Be better, educated or move onto to a more high end restaurant.
Activists may be dumb as you claim but you’re right up there with them despite thinking highly of yourself . How many effing restaurants fall in the high end category ? Better yet , how often do you dine at a $100/ plate restaurant ? Hypocrite
Anonymous
06/20/2018 23:54
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:I’m a 20% tipper
Too but will definitely stop once this goes into effect. The idiots who voted for this have no idea the negative impact this will have. Locally owned businesses will stop opening and we will truly be nothing but chains. Activist are some of the dumbest people in this town. As for servers complaining they work at a dive bar and do t make much money?? Be better, educated or move onto to a more high end restaurant.
You’re assuming that your 20% tip was enough to earn a living . Silly goose .
Anonymous
06/20/2018 23:54
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:No doubt this was fine with the myopic urbanists and self-styled justice advocates who think that DC is the be all and end all. They see nothing wrong with putting more and more fees on top of businesses, not realizing that many of them could just as easily relocate to Montgomery or Arlington counties (which are not exactly laissez faire Texas but still saner than D.C.)
Well so be it , what wanna-be connoisseurs of business dynamics like you fail to take Into account is that our society is already paying a tremendous price with this race to the bottom it has been engaged in the last four decades . Going out to eat is not a birth right and I’ll add that these business should skip Arlington or Montgomery counties and head for the very business friendly states of West Virginia or Kentucky . They’re not owed the right to operate in dc
Anonymous
06/20/2018 23:47
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Anonymous wrote:My server and bartender friends are disappointed and asking council members to overturn this.
Tell them it’s not necessarily about them . Selfish dbags
Anonymous
06/20/2018 16:34
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
No doubt this was fine with the myopic urbanists and self-styled justice advocates who think that DC is the be all and end all. They see nothing wrong with putting more and more fees on top of businesses, not realizing that many of them could just as easily relocate to Montgomery or Arlington counties (which are not exactly laissez faire Texas but still saner than D.C.)
Anonymous
06/20/2018 15:03
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
I’m a 20% tipper
Too but will definitely stop once this goes into effect. The idiots who voted for this have no idea the negative impact this will have. Locally owned businesses will stop opening and we will truly be nothing but chains. Activist are some of the dumbest people in this town. As for servers complaining they work at a dive bar and do t make much money?? Be better, educated or move onto to a more high end restaurant.
Too but will definitely stop once this goes into effect. The idiots who voted for this have no idea the negative impact this will have. Locally owned businesses will stop opening and we will truly be nothing but chains. Activist are some of the dumbest people in this town. As for servers complaining they work at a dive bar and do t make much money?? Be better, educated or move onto to a more high end restaurant.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 14:57
Subject: Re:Prop 77 - still torn!!
I see no point in tipping people 20% who are already making $15 an hour. I'm already paying for the full price of food and service so why should I pay more?
Anonymous
06/20/2018 14:54
Subject: Re:Prop 77 - still torn!!
My prediction is this initiative will go the same route as the head tax in Seattle. Maybe not as quickly. But, as smaller restaurants shutter and good servers look elsewhere for work (where tips are more the norm), DC will overturn this.
I know if I were visiting DC knowing of this initiative and the prices were significantly more (as they will be in the near future), I wouldn’t tip. Or, at least not very much. And, I am generally a >20% tipper.
I know if I were visiting DC knowing of this initiative and the prices were significantly more (as they will be in the near future), I wouldn’t tip. Or, at least not very much. And, I am generally a >20% tipper.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 14:53
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Right. Restaurants will start adding service charges, and customers will deduct this against the tip amount (if they tip at all considering that a service charge is included).
Way to go, social justice advocates. Too bad you never took Econ 101.
Way to go, social justice advocates. Too bad you never took Econ 101.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 14:47
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
Points I've not heard mentioned:
There are other negative outcomes that result from employers not paying an actual wage besides income loss. When an employer pays you chump change and knows your are at the mercy of the guests paying your salary, they also don't respect your time very much.
Maybe some restaurants will consider relocating to areas with barely any sit down restaurants, like Wards 7 and 8, in order to make ends meet. Maybe diners will consider actually (gulp) travelling to wards 7 and 8 for meal prices that are more reasonable than downtown.
And maybe these "uneducated people with such a great entry into making a living" can actually do so because they won't have to go through 2-3 weeks of crap tips and crap wages because their manager is starting them at the bottom of the totem pole after training (with bad sections and bad guests.) If it's so easy for someone with no skills to enter this profitable job, why do 80% of my co-workers (server/bartenders) have BA.s?
There are other negative outcomes that result from employers not paying an actual wage besides income loss. When an employer pays you chump change and knows your are at the mercy of the guests paying your salary, they also don't respect your time very much.
Maybe some restaurants will consider relocating to areas with barely any sit down restaurants, like Wards 7 and 8, in order to make ends meet. Maybe diners will consider actually (gulp) travelling to wards 7 and 8 for meal prices that are more reasonable than downtown.
And maybe these "uneducated people with such a great entry into making a living" can actually do so because they won't have to go through 2-3 weeks of crap tips and crap wages because their manager is starting them at the bottom of the totem pole after training (with bad sections and bad guests.) If it's so easy for someone with no skills to enter this profitable job, why do 80% of my co-workers (server/bartenders) have BA.s?
Anonymous
06/20/2018 09:24
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
My server and bartender friends are disappointed and asking council members to overturn this.
Anonymous
06/20/2018 08:51
Subject: Prop 77 - still torn!!
My prediction is that restaurants will, over time, begin adding service charges to the bill. And, as others have said, when you see a service charge you don't tip much. And the service charge won't go to the server . . .