Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 18:31     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
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Anonymous wrote:Right. And Obama was criticized then, as the article states. It's been a problem in the immigration policy area for awhile, although this situation is a little different in that the U.S. children were with other relatives and out in the community. Not a tent or a Walmart.

However, it just underscores that our values don't change just because there is a different president.

What’s worse separating citizens from their parents or recent illegal aliens from their parents?


Immigration status doesn't matter. Family does. Humans do. Aren't you all supposed to be pro-family?

So you believe this for all crimes? Rob a bank and you can’t be separated from kids?


How is looking for asylum any near equivalent to robbing a bank?


JUst because you live in a gang infested neighborhood, you do not qualify for asylum. If you did, millions of people in Miami, L.A, Long Island, Detroit, Chicago could seek asylum in Canada.


So you have no answer to the question: how is seeking (whether or not you qualify) the equivalent of robbing a bank?


Because we have an established processed here for legal migration. One that entails paperwork in advance - just like Canada, England, Mexico, and dozens of other countries. So showing up on our border and demanding residency (paid for by me) is tantamount to committing an illegal act.

Are we sad when drunk drivers are sent to jail and separated from their families?


You obviously aren’t, no surprise from a heartless con, but as for me, yes absolutely, especially if their children were sent to one of these facilities where no one could touch them and even siblings aren’t allowed to hug each other and where they have no idea where their parents are and can’t talk to them and have no clue where they themselves are and what is happening to them. Does that happen with children of drunk drivers?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 18:16     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
Anonymous wrote:I never knew I could hate an entire administration this much. I hope they all end up in small cages themselves, every last effing one of them. They are all disgusting vermin.


This is nice to what I hope for them!
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 18:15     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation
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Anonymous wrote:Let's just open our borders to the hundreds of MILLIONS of people who dream of living in this country! We have plentiful affordable housing, a stellar education system that can handle the influx of non-English speakers, tons of jobs for the unskilled that pay living wages. Come in Illegal Immigrant, Come in!!!


Again, it’s not about opening borders. It’s about protecting children. Or as the UN said, having “government sanctioned child abuse”


DP. I’d love to hear how we enforce immigration laws while ensuring the protection of children. What’s the plan for the kids? Do they stay with mom in a facility? How are we vetting the other adults in that facility to ensure they are safe to be around children? There are no easy answers sadly. And housing kids with adults in mixed facilities comes with a whole host of safety issues too.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 18:08     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
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Anonymous wrote:Here you can listen to the sounds of crying and pleading children.

Propublica has audio of children at the border.

https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separa...twitter&utm_content=1529351580


Why don't they just go home then?



Why don’t you, bitch? Why are you ok with thugs mocking grieving kids?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:58     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation
Anonymous wrote:Let's just open our borders to the hundreds of MILLIONS of people who dream of living in this country! We have plentiful affordable housing, a stellar education system that can handle the influx of non-English speakers, tons of jobs for the unskilled that pay living wages. Come in Illegal Immigrant, Come in!!!


Only those trying to make false arguments use such binary terms to define the issue. There is a middle ground. But everything is now in the Trump dealmaking vernacular, there has to be a winner and a loser. No compromises, no win-wins.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:53     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Right. And Obama was criticized then, as the article states. It's been a problem in the immigration policy area for awhile, although this situation is a little different in that the U.S. children were with other relatives and out in the community. Not a tent or a Walmart.

However, it just underscores that our values don't change just because there is a different president.

What’s worse separating citizens from their parents or recent illegal aliens from their parents?


Immigration status doesn't matter. Family does. Humans do. Aren't you all supposed to be pro-family?

So you believe this for all crimes? Rob a bank and you can’t be separated from kids?


How is looking for asylum any near equivalent to robbing a bank?


JUst because you live in a gang infested neighborhood, you do not qualify for asylum. If you did, millions of people in Miami, L.A, Long Island, Detroit, Chicago could seek asylum in Canada.


So you have no answer to the question: how is seeking (whether or not you qualify) the equivalent of robbing a bank?


Because we have an established processed here for legal migration. One that entails paperwork in advance - just like Canada, England, Mexico, and dozens of other countries. So showing up on our border and demanding residency (paid for by me) is tantamount to committing an illegal act.

Are we sad when drunk drivers are sent to jail and separated from their families?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:51     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
Anonymous wrote:Here you can listen to the sounds of crying and pleading children.

Propublica has audio of children at the border.

https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separa...twitter&utm_content=1529351580


Why don't they just go home then?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:46     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
Anonymous wrote:I never knew I could hate an entire administration this much. I hope they all end up in small cages themselves, every last effing one of them. They are all disgusting vermin.


This - I hope they all rot in jail before they burn in hell
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:36     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Right. And Obama was criticized then, as the article states. It's been a problem in the immigration policy area for awhile, although this situation is a little different in that the U.S. children were with other relatives and out in the community. Not a tent or a Walmart.

However, it just underscores that our values don't change just because there is a different president.

What’s worse separating citizens from their parents or recent illegal aliens from their parents?


Immigration status doesn't matter. Family does. Humans do. Aren't you all supposed to be pro-family?

So you believe this for all crimes? Rob a bank and you can’t be separated from kids?


How is looking for asylum any near equivalent to robbing a bank?


JUst because you live in a gang infested neighborhood, you do not qualify for asylum. If you did, millions of people in Miami, L.A, Long Island, Detroit, Chicago could seek asylum in Canada.


So you have no answer to the question: how is seeking (whether or not you qualify) the equivalent of robbing a bank?
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:29     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
I never knew I could hate an entire administration this much. I hope they all end up in small cages themselves, every last effing one of them. They are all disgusting vermin.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:27     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation
The audio clip of those children crying is heart breaking. The girl who memorized a phone number - her mother may be deported without her. So you separate mothers from children, then send them on separate ways.

Disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:13     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation
Anonymous wrote:Let's just open our borders to the hundreds of MILLIONS of people who dream of living in this country! We have plentiful affordable housing, a stellar education system that can handle the influx of non-English speakers, tons of jobs for the unskilled that pay living wages. Come in Illegal Immigrant, Come in!!!


Again, it’s not about opening borders. It’s about protecting children. Or as the UN said, having “government sanctioned child abuse”
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 17:11     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation
Let's just open our borders to the hundreds of MILLIONS of people who dream of living in this country! We have plentiful affordable housing, a stellar education system that can handle the influx of non-English speakers, tons of jobs for the unskilled that pay living wages. Come in Illegal Immigrant, Come in!!!
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 16:57     Subject: Re:To those upset at Trump over child separation
Here you can listen to the sounds of crying and pleading children.

Propublica has audio of children at the border.

https://www.propublica.org/article/children-separa...twitter&utm_content=1529351580
Anonymous
Post 06/18/2018 16:51     Subject: To those upset at Trump over child separation
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Anonymous wrote:Seeking asylum is not even a misdemeanor.




Economic migration isn't political asylum.

We have enough poor people in this country. Every time I hear "They do jobs Americans won't do!" I laugh at the nonsense. There are no jobs Americans won't do. There are only jobs that Americans won't do for slave-labor wages. I'd like to see those wages rise - and they will when employers have to compete for employees. Let's take care of our own poor first, using the economic engine of our own country for our own people.

If we need to import poor people after a few years of robust economic development, I'll have more sympathy. For now, I'm more interested in uplifting my own folk.


Since republicans have gutted every social program aimed at the poor, including job training, I don’t believe for a second you care an iota about poor people.