Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:49
Subject: Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the yearly budget for all Arlington county?
Is it like 500 million?
I thought it was at least 1B total.
Arlington County's approved 2019 budget is $1.276 billion. APS's approved 2019 budget is $637 million.
When APS is taking the lion’s share, you can see why the boomers, singles, and dinks don’t GAF about our problems.
If we want any of them to meet us halfway, we need to:
Get rid of the iPads
Increase class sizes
Pay to play sports
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:41
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
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Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
Didn't a private middle/high school open up in a Ballston office building a few years ago? Stop wasting APS money on a 4th comprehensive high school.
https://thesycamoreschoolva.org
The Sycamore School is located at
The Arlington Center
Suite 300
4600 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
5th - 12th grade.
The Sycamore School embraces an urban campus model, where students learn to utilize community resources to augment and enhance their learning experience. Located in the heart of Ballston, we are accessible to metro/public transportation and walking distance to five parks.
APS schools were a ghost town in the 70/80s. History will repeat itself.
The Sycamore School charges tuition of $23,000 per year, plus another $1k in other fees (and probably expects fundraising contributions as well). If APS got $24k+ per student per year from the county, they would have a lot more options too.
And don't forget they can choose their own students, and say on their website their program isn't a good fit for students with "significant behavioral, cognitive or language struggles." So if you're a child with more significant special needs or an ESOL student, you're out of luck there. Must easier to manage a budget when you can exclude the more expensive students.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:39
Subject: Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the yearly budget for all Arlington county?
Is it like 500 million?
I thought it was at least 1B total.
Arlington County's approved 2019 budget is $1.276 billion. APS's approved 2019 budget is $637 million.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:35
Subject: Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the yearly budget for all Arlington county?
Is it like 500 million?
I thought it was at least 1B total.
You are correct
1.2 B - around there.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:34
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
Didn't a private middle/high school open up in a Ballston office building a few years ago? Stop wasting APS money on a 4th comprehensive high school.
https://thesycamoreschoolva.org
The Sycamore School is located at
The Arlington Center
Suite 300
4600 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
5th - 12th grade.
The Sycamore School embraces an urban campus model, where students learn to utilize community resources to augment and enhance their learning experience. Located in the heart of Ballston, we are accessible to metro/public transportation and walking distance to five parks.
APS schools were a ghost town in the 70/80s. History will repeat itself.
Are you perhaps the old lady also posting on AEM? The one who thinks seats for students is 1950’s redux?
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:34
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
Didn't a private middle/high school open up in a Ballston office building a few years ago? Stop wasting APS money on a 4th comprehensive high school.
https://thesycamoreschoolva.org
The Sycamore School is located at
The Arlington Center
Suite 300
4600 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
5th - 12th grade.
The Sycamore School embraces an urban campus model, where students learn to utilize community resources to augment and enhance their learning experience. Located in the heart of Ballston, we are accessible to metro/public transportation and walking distance to five parks.
APS schools were a ghost town in the 70/80s. History will repeat itself.
The Sycamore School charges tuition of $23,000 per year, plus another $1k in other fees (and probably expects fundraising contributions as well). If APS got $24k+ per student per year from the county, they would have a lot more options too.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:33
Subject: Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:What is the yearly budget for all Arlington county?
Is it like 500 million?
I thought it was at least 1B total.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:28
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
Didn't a private middle/high school open up in a Ballston office building a few years ago? Stop wasting APS money on a 4th comprehensive high school.
https://thesycamoreschoolva.org
The Sycamore School is located at
The Arlington Center
Suite 300
4600 North Fairfax Drive
Arlington, VA 22203
5th - 12th grade.
The Sycamore School embraces an urban campus model, where students learn to utilize community resources to augment and enhance their learning experience. Located in the heart of Ballston, we are accessible to metro/public transportation and walking distance to five parks.
APS schools were a ghost town in the 70/80s. History will repeat itself.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 13:05
Subject: Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
This! If we stopped giving all our annual budget surplus to AHIF, we'd probably have the money to pay for this school. AND, we'd have fewer kids. But don't say that out loud. VOICE advocates and S. Arlington old timers will call you a racist because you don't want your tax dollars squandered on things that cause capacity crises and worsen educational outcomes for everyone.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 12:59
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell. me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
Also-
My science loving kid wants music and sports.
Seriously
We. Have. Money.
We just can’t have fancy metro entrances and more park space.
We can’t afford a fancy acquatic center
Or a gondola
Or even fixing Lubber Run.
Or loaning money for affordable housing
We need to pay fire fighters, police, and teachers
We need workable infrastructure/ roads
We need seats for students with traditional offerings
This county needs a reality check
Anonymous
05/23/2018 12:57
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
SB should threaten to send students to high school in half-day shifts to focus attention on the issue.
Yes, the school board threatening shift schedules in high school is totally going to change the minds of developers who for the most part don't live in Arlington and whose school-aged children, if any, will be unaffected.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 12:55
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:So, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but as a resident of the 22204 for over a decade now, I have become a cynic. It has become very clear that they will tell you about all the wonderful things that can be done in order to pass whatever the agenda du jour is, and then do none of those wonderful things. It is what it is. If you were expecting it to be different this time, well, now you know. Don't get fooled again.
Just been here for 5 (I used to live in N. Arlington before) and I’m finally starting to see this.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 12:55
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
SB should threaten to send students to high school in half-day shifts to focus attention on the issue.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 12:50
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
Really, tell me how it would work for APS to "just rent an office building." APS can't afford to pay market rent as set by the developers for those buildings so they'd need to find a developer willing to forego the tax breaks they get for the unleased space and give APS a sub-market lease. But even without considering the tax breaks, developers will be very reluctant to do this because such a lease would have to be for at least 20 years (because the renovations required to turn office space into a code-compliant school will probably require bond funding, and bond funding can only be used for projects expected to have at least a 20-year life), and because most developers own more than just that one commercial space, and will be worried about what such a big sub-market lease would do to the market for their other commercial spaces.
Anonymous
05/23/2018 12:43
Subject: Re:Please explain how Henry parent position on CC makes sense
Anonymous wrote:When will APS just rent an office building in Crystal City or Ballston and turn it into Arlington Science High School? That is all we really can afford.
Did you see this article in the post?
Politics
Lowest US birth rate in 3 decades could pose risk to economy
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lowest-us-birth-rate-in-3-decades-could-pose-risk-to-economy/2018/05/17/9183b4ce-5a0f-11e8-9889-07bcc1327f4b_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.2ef3f1a253e2
That's a national trend. There's no birthrate decline here--just the opposite.