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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

Sorry I looked at Google maps quickly and misidentified Mt Vernon and Commonwealth. I generally take King Street to Old Town when approaching from the northwest, not Braddock, and where Commonwealth hits the metro line resembles on a map the way Mt Vernon approaches Braddock just west of RR line. Sorry for that confusion.

It still seems to be a small distance that was congested, and quite likely that it cleared up in 10 minutes. And it does not incline me to oppose development in order to protect traffic flow. And I do not think West Alexandria is "under a rock".

You really need to work on comprehension. No one is opposing development, least of all us.

We are opposing the horrible traffic, which has gotten dramatically worse in the past 2 years without any reason other than poor traffic management. The lights are out of synch, there are no police officers in high volume corridors preventing "blocking the box," there are people leaving their cars in HOV lanes left and right with no towing or tickets, etc. King Street needs to go back to 4 lanes at 35 mph and Quaker Lane needs to go back to 35 mph. We need to get all of the additional volume off of roads like Braddock, which people are using to get around the huge blockage on King Street. Duke Street and the area around Rt. 1 is a nightmare.

The horrible traffic and parking issues are hindering development in Alexandria, not helping. And people like you, who can't even tell main thoroughfares apart, somehow think that you represent the voice of Alexandria. Hah! Just when I thought we couldn't get any lower, I get surprised again. No wonder we have problems!

West Alexandrian here and this is also an issue for us out here. Why is every light on Van Dorn out of sync so you get caught at every single one? And Duke as well? And the "no parking during rush hour" zones aren't really enforced. They'll give tickets occasionally but no one is towed so it's a mess constantly. Meanwhile our street is used as a cut through and people are blasting through crosswalks when kids are trying to walk to school or driving right by buses with their red lights flashing and there is no police enforcement anywhere!

It is so dangerous being a pedestrian around here, anyone saying walking or biking to get where your going is the answer can go suck an egg. I take my life in my hands every time I try to cross the street around here because no one gives a sh*t and there is no enforcement of traffic laws. At least when I'm stuck in traffic in my car, I'm surrounded by steal and air bags and so is my kid.

You should complain about the signals, but realize with streets in different directions, signal synchronization is not as straightforward as some people think.

Definitely use Call Click Connect to complain about the parking violations.

Biking and walking in the West End are definitely too difficult. There needs to be both more enforcement, and infrastructure more designed to make streets safe for pedestrians.

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

Sorry I looked at Google maps quickly and misidentified Mt Vernon and Commonwealth. I generally take King Street to Old Town when approaching from the northwest, not Braddock, and where Commonwealth hits the metro line resembles on a map the way Mt Vernon approaches Braddock just west of RR line. Sorry for that confusion.

It still seems to be a small distance that was congested, and quite likely that it cleared up in 10 minutes. And it does not incline me to oppose development in order to protect traffic flow. And I do not think West Alexandria is "under a rock".

You really need to work on comprehension. No one is opposing development, least of all us.

We are opposing the horrible traffic, which has gotten dramatically worse in the past 2 years without any reason other than poor traffic management. The lights are out of synch, there are no police officers in high volume corridors preventing "blocking the box," there are people leaving their cars in HOV lanes left and right with no towing or tickets, etc. King Street needs to go back to 4 lanes at 35 mph and Quaker Lane needs to go back to 35 mph. We need to get all of the additional volume off of roads like Braddock, which people are using to get around the huge blockage on King Street. Duke Street and the area around Rt. 1 is a nightmare.

The horrible traffic and parking issues are hindering development in Alexandria, not helping. And people like you, who can't even tell main thoroughfares apart, somehow think that you represent the voice of Alexandria. Hah! Just when I thought we couldn't get any lower, I get surprised again. No wonder we have problems!

West Alexandrian here and this is also an issue for us out here. Why is every light on Van Dorn out of sync so you get caught at every single one? And Duke as well? And the "no parking during rush hour" zones aren't really enforced. They'll give tickets occasionally but no one is towed so it's a mess constantly. Meanwhile our street is used as a cut through and people are blasting through crosswalks when kids are trying to walk to school or driving right by buses with their red lights flashing and there is no police enforcement anywhere!

It is so dangerous being a pedestrian around here, anyone saying walking or biking to get where your going is the answer can go suck an egg. I take my life in my hands every time I try to cross the street around here because no one gives a sh*t and there is no enforcement of traffic laws. At least when I'm stuck in traffic in my car, I'm surrounded by steal and air bags and so is my kid.

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

Sorry I looked at Google maps quickly and misidentified Mt Vernon and Commonwealth. I generally take King Street to Old Town when approaching from the northwest, not Braddock, and where Commonwealth hits the metro line resembles on a map the way Mt Vernon approaches Braddock just west of RR line. Sorry for that confusion.

It still seems to be a small distance that was congested, and quite likely that it cleared up in 10 minutes. And it does not incline me to oppose development in order to protect traffic flow. And I do not think West Alexandria is "under a rock".

You really need to work on comprehension. No one is opposing development, least of all us.

We are opposing the horrible traffic, which has gotten dramatically worse in the past 2 years without any reason other than poor traffic management. The lights are out of synch, there are no police officers in high volume corridors preventing "blocking the box," there are people leaving their cars in HOV lanes left and right with no towing or tickets, etc. King Street needs to go back to 4 lanes at 35 mph and Quaker Lane needs to go back to 35 mph. We need to get all of the additional volume off of roads like Braddock, which people are using to get around the huge blockage on King Street. Duke Street and the area around Rt. 1 is a nightmare.

The horrible traffic and parking issues are hindering development in Alexandria, not helping. And people like you, who can't even tell main thoroughfares apart, somehow think that you represent the voice of Alexandria. Hah! Just when I thought we couldn't get any lower, I get surprised again. No wonder we have problems!

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NP - PP, if you know anyone in the Central Alexandria neighborhoods (Taylor Runn, Clover/College Park or Taylor Run), you should reach out to them. They did a candidate questionnaire to ask about every candidates view on traffic and got responses earlier this week. They also have a campaign going with yard signs. I will see if I can find the email address where you can contact me about it.

DP and I discovered they have a facebook page and have seen their yard signs. The people living there seem to think that the uptick in traffic is due to Waze and Google maps but I live in the City and have to use those roads to get over to locations that are across Duke st and I have been using those roads for years and they were always backed up. The slower speed limit on Quaker wouldn't stop me from using Quaker but the obscene amount of traffic does. Trying to go down Duke st. is impossible and has been for years. It has always been that if you wanted to take Duke to get on the highway, you had to make sure you were in the far right hand lane way back at the shopping center with Giant or there was little chance you were getting into the lane.

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

Sorry I looked at Google maps quickly and misidentified Mt Vernon and Commonwealth. I generally take King Street to Old Town when approaching from the northwest, not Braddock, and where Commonwealth hits the metro line resembles on a map the way Mt Vernon approaches Braddock just west of RR line. Sorry for that confusion.

It still seems to be a small distance that was congested, and quite likely that it cleared up in 10 minutes. And it does not incline me to oppose development in order to protect traffic flow. And I do not think West Alexandria is "under a rock".

You really need to work on comprehension. No one is opposing development, least of all us.

We are opposing the horrible traffic, which has gotten dramatically worse in the past 2 years without any reason other than poor traffic management. The lights are out of synch, there are no police officers in high volume corridors preventing "blocking the box," there are people leaving their cars in HOV lanes left and right with no towing or tickets, etc. King Street needs to go back to 4 lanes at 35 mph and Quaker Lane needs to go back to 35 mph. We need to get all of the additional volume off of roads like Braddock, which people are using to get around the huge blockage on King Street. Duke Street and the area around Rt. 1 is a nightmare.

The horrible traffic and parking issues are hindering development in Alexandria, not helping. And people like you, who can't even tell main thoroughfares apart, somehow think that you represent the voice of Alexandria. Hah! Just when I thought we couldn't get any lower, I get surprised again. No wonder we have problems!

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Alexandria Chamber “outraged” at Potomac Yard Metro changes

https://alextimes.com/2018/05/potomacyardmetro/

Good. They should be outraged. The City seems to have known about this in advance and kept quiet due to some confidentiality agreement relating to the construction that isn’t happening. Well, if there’s an agreement to breach, that’s the one. This is a signal moment for Alexandria. Wilson and Silberberg look kinda the same today.

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+3. The way the city went about this completely behind closed doors FOR A YEAR is so messed up.

+4 and 5. It is the same old way of operating. I would not be surprised if there is cash changing hands. All of them need to be out: the Mayor, City Council and the whole City staff. We need to clean house. As if the sewage thing wasn't outrageous enough (and heading into summer we're about to be reminded about it on a daily basis with the stench) but now with the Potomac Yard Metro thing … no one could be that grossly incompetent. Could they? I think the Council members are so happy to have their Council jobs and their side businesses that feed off of their Council work that they have forgotten what they are supposed to do as Council members.

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NP - PP, if you know anyone in the Central Alexandria neighborhoods (Taylor Runn, Clover/College Park or Taylor Run), you should reach out to them. They did a candidate questionnaire to ask about every candidates view on traffic and got responses earlier this week. They also have a campaign going with yard signs. I will see if I can find the email address where you can contact me about it.

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

Sorry I looked at Google maps quickly and misidentified Mt Vernon and Commonwealth. I generally take King Street to Old Town when approaching from the northwest, not Braddock, and where Commonwealth hits the metro line resembles on a map the way Mt Vernon approaches Braddock just west of RR line. Sorry for that confusion.

It still seems to be a small distance that was congested, and quite likely that it cleared up in 10 minutes. And it does not incline me to oppose development in order to protect traffic flow. And I do not think West Alexandria is "under a rock".

You really need to work on comprehension. No one is opposing development, least of all us.

We are opposing the horrible traffic, which has gotten dramatically worse in the past 2 years without any reason other than poor traffic management. The lights are out of synch, there are no police officers in high volume corridors preventing "blocking the box," there are people leaving their cars in HOV lanes left and right with no towing or tickets, etc. King Street needs to go back to 4 lanes at 35 mph and Quaker Lane needs to go back to 35 mph. We need to get all of the additional volume off of roads like Braddock, which people are using to get around the huge blockage on King Street. Duke Street and the area around Rt. 1 is a nightmare.

The horrible traffic and parking issues are hindering development in Alexandria, not helping. And people like you, who can't even tell main thoroughfares apart, somehow think that you represent the voice of Alexandria. Hah! Just when I thought we couldn't get any lower, I get surprised again. No wonder we have problems!

NP - PP, if you know anyone in the Central Alexandria neighborhoods (Taylor Runn, Clover/College Park or Taylor Run), you should reach out to them. They did a candidate questionnaire to ask about every candidates view on traffic and got responses earlier this week. They also have a campaign going with yard signs. I will see if I can find the email address where you can contact me about it.

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

Sorry I looked at Google maps quickly and misidentified Mt Vernon and Commonwealth. I generally take King Street to Old Town when approaching from the northwest, not Braddock, and where Commonwealth hits the metro line resembles on a map the way Mt Vernon approaches Braddock just west of RR line. Sorry for that confusion.

It still seems to be a small distance that was congested, and quite likely that it cleared up in 10 minutes. And it does not incline me to oppose development in order to protect traffic flow. And I do not think West Alexandria is "under a rock".

You really need to work on comprehension. No one is opposing development, least of all us.

We are opposing the horrible traffic, which has gotten dramatically worse in the past 2 years without any reason other than poor traffic management. The lights are out of synch, there are no police officers in high volume corridors preventing "blocking the box," there are people leaving their cars in HOV lanes left and right with no towing or tickets, etc. King Street needs to go back to 4 lanes at 35 mph and Quaker Lane needs to go back to 35 mph. We need to get all of the additional volume off of roads like Braddock, which people are using to get around the huge blockage on King Street. Duke Street and the area around Rt. 1 is a nightmare.

The horrible traffic and parking issues are hindering development in Alexandria, not helping. And people like you, who can't even tell main thoroughfares apart, somehow think that you represent the voice of Alexandria. Hah! Just when I thought we couldn't get any lower, I get surprised again. No wonder we have problems!

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

Sorry I looked at Google maps quickly and misidentified Mt Vernon and Commonwealth. I generally take King Street to Old Town when approaching from the northwest, not Braddock, and where Commonwealth hits the metro line resembles on a map the way Mt Vernon approaches Braddock just west of RR line. Sorry for that confusion.

It still seems to be a small distance that was congested, and quite likely that it cleared up in 10 minutes. And it does not incline me to oppose development in order to protect traffic flow. And I do not think West Alexandria is "under a rock".

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.

So … it is clear from your post that you are not familiar AT ALL with our fair city if you don't recognize that it is over half a mile from West to Commonwealth and that there are 8 cross streets between them. I don't understand at all why you are entering into this conversation if you don't even have a vague understanding of the place. It is time for you to go back under your rock and stay there. Good bye.

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Anonymous wrote:If the walk to the entrance from where the other entrance was supposed to be is truly NBD than why aren't they building the southern entrance and saying people will just have to walk down from the north?

I'm really asking, I'm not being snarky. Because right now it just seems like they're sticking it to the people that have already built in the south for the purposes of still enticing developers for the to be built area in the north.

I think they found that the southern mezzanine was more expensive to build than the northern one.

The south mezzanine costs about $10M more than the north because it had an extra ramp. In the grand scheme of the project it’s a small difference.

The real reason is that more of the tax revenue is associated with the north and they can’t affort to lose that one. The city believes (correctly, based on data) that commercial development only happen within about 1/4-1/3 mile of the station entrance, so deleting the north mezzanine means no development of the existing shopping center and no commercial tax revenue. Not doing the south also means this, but to a smaller extent and more impacting people who are already stuck versus hypothetical future residents and businesses who can still choose not to come because they haven’t built yet.

Completely agreed. Too bad it their sneakiness comes at the expense of the early adopters (the people in the south). I do think though that we all need to DEMAND that the city fix the issue with the association serving people who are blind. It is completely unacceptable that our city leaders knowingly duped them.

They have also dropped the tax contributions toward the station of the people in PY south. So I take it this is admission that the benefits metro access exceeded the cost of the tax contribution for those folks? They did not say that when the contribution was discussed, IIRC.

This is not correct.

First of all, there are two tax districts in PY South--both of which predate any actual residents in the area. The Tier I STD applies to multi-family units and it is in force and collecting money now (more money than the city expected actually), and continues to be going forward. The Tier II STD applies only to the individual townhomes and condos in PY south (but not to Potomac Greens, which was resident's main concern about it). The Tier II STD starts once the metro opens, and it is still on the books.

The Tier II STD is supposed to generate about $20M in revenue for the project overall. But now Dominion needs to put a high voltage line down the length of a street in Potomac Yard - and they will pay $40M+ to the city for the rights to do it. So the city and residents negotiated a trade - If that Dominion line and payment happens, then the payment from Dominion should be used to remove that Tier II STD.

That trade all felt relatively fair as a Potomac Yard resident - until we found out that the city was aware that we no longer had a station entrance when they negotiated it with us.

The city did pass a resolution two weeks ago making that trade formal. So yes, if dominion runs that high voltage line through potomac yard and the city gets a big payment, part of that payment will be used to remove the STD. But it had nothing to do with the benefits and costs of metro, or with the removal of our metro entrance at all.

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Anonymous wrote:If the walk to the entrance from where the other entrance was supposed to be is truly NBD than why aren't they building the southern entrance and saying people will just have to walk down from the north?

I'm really asking, I'm not being snarky. Because right now it just seems like they're sticking it to the people that have already built in the south for the purposes of still enticing developers for the to be built area in the north.

I think they found that the southern mezzanine was more expensive to build than the northern one.

The south mezzanine costs about $10M more than the north because it had an extra ramp. In the grand scheme of the project it’s a small difference.

The real reason is that more of the tax revenue is associated with the north and they can’t affort to lose that one. The city believes (correctly, based on data) that commercial development only happen within about 1/4-1/3 mile of the station entrance, so deleting the north mezzanine means no development of the existing shopping center and no commercial tax revenue. Not doing the south also means this, but to a smaller extent and more impacting people who are already stuck versus hypothetical future residents and businesses who can still choose not to come because they haven’t built yet.

Completely agreed. Too bad it their sneakiness comes at the expense of the early adopters (the people in the south). I do think though that we all need to DEMAND that the city fix the issue with the association serving people who are blind. It is completely unacceptable that our city leaders knowingly duped them.

They have also dropped the tax contributions toward the station of the people in PY south. So I take it this is admission that the benefits metro access exceeded the cost of the tax contribution for those folks? They did not say that when the contribution was discussed, IIRC.

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Anonymous wrote:And West Street to Commonwealth is basically one long block. Could have been time to get through the signal. Really, this is a city (yes), a backup for one long block by the metro station, at peak of PM rush hour is a cause for the City to revise it's approach? I don't think so. Perhaps you would be happier in Ashburn? Or Omaha?

Huh, you're too slick for me because I sure don't "get" your reference to Ashburn or Omaha.

But since from West to Commonwealth is over 0.6 of a mile, I also don't "get" your reference to one long block. That sure is a long block! I guess we make them different here in Alexandria, don't we! I have a hard time believing that anyone can make that in one light … and I don't necessarily think it would be wise for anyone to try. But why don't you do it? Let me know in advance and I'll arrange for Alexandria PD there to observe your effort! That would help me towards my goal of getting at least one more moron off the streets!

A block for me is defined by cross streets, not distance. And that the backup was likely due to the light was precisely my point. IOW not due to lack of street capacity beyond. I mean if the City can improve the functioning of the intersection, without making it worse for safety, great. But I can't see slowing down development because sometimes drivers need to wait through a light cycle.

My reference was that those are the kinds of places built to have zero delay at intersections. Living in a dense, close in area, with all the advantages it has, comes with some (IMHO) minor tradeoffs.