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Anonymous wrote: There’s Absolutely no basis that Beauvoir kids are less bad which yes is still terrible. This is just the most ridiculous thread I think I’ve ever read on DCM. It’s sad because the people who are making the argument against Beauvoir kids come across as mean, stunted, and stupid.

So your contention is that academic achievement of applicants through 3rd grade is just as or more predictive of future success as those of applicants through 8th grade?

NP - what a stupid question.

While competition for 9th grade admission is fierce, that's because the education at STA is rather good. Most 9th grade applicants are coming from K-8s or pubic schools or non-Big 3 K-12s. The number of 9th grade applicants from Sidwell or GDS to NC/STA is vanishingly small.

So what do you think STA does with the boys between C Form and 9th? Have them twiddle their thumbs? No, they're given a first-class education, and while some will be brighter than others, the ones who are selected can handle the rigor. Those who can't are counseled out at Beauvoir, in 3rd grade. Will all Beauvoir kids be as strong as the top kids who enter in 9th? No. But many of them will be -- and have had the benefit of several prior years of an STA education.

The majority of kids at STA are Beauvoir kids. Simple fact. They are disproportionately well represented on most Prize Days, and with regard to elite college admissions.

Make of that what you will.

Actually, the majority of kids at STA are not Beauvoir kids. That's true in the lower school but by about 7th grade, it's probably about 50/50 and by 9th grade Beauvoir kids are probably 30-40% of the class (class size is about 85 and about 30-32 Beauvoir kids move on to STA in 4th grade).

Anyone who thinks STA is only looking at academic achievement when selecting students for 9th grade admissions is deluding themselves. The school fills in plenty of perceived needs in 9th grade, including sports, arts and, yes, academics.

Some Beauvoir kids do fine academically and some do not. Some are elected prefects and some are not. Some are stars on the fields and some are not. Oh, and you can replace the word "Beauvoir" with "a student admitted in 6th/7th/9th grade". Anyone who spouts broad generalizations about this reveals their own ignorance - and that's true either way. Beauvoir kids are not disproportionately well represented at the top or the bottom of the class every year. It varies, as one would expect.

This entire thread is just howling at the moon. STA will take Beauvoir kids. That's the way the schools are set up. Expecting STA to do otherwise is silly.

You’re calculating STA’s composition class by class. Take the school as a whole, and you still have more Beauvoir kids than non-Beauvoir kids at STA.

We can dispute until kingdom come, but anyone who is actually at STA will tell you that you don’t get in at 9th without the grades and test scores. Yes, it helps if you have something else to offer, and you’re more likely to get in. However, a B+ student with greact ECs is not likely to be admitted.

Beauvoir kids are disproportionately represented at the top. Again, we can argue, but take a look at the record over any length of time, and it will be clear. Yes, there are some years when there’s a weak Beauvoir class, but generally they are disproportionately represented at the top.

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Anonymous wrote: There’s Absolutely no basis that Beauvoir kids are less bad which yes is still terrible. This is just the most ridiculous thread I think I’ve ever read on DCM. It’s sad because the people who are making the argument against Beauvoir kids come across as mean, stunted, and stupid.

So your contention is that academic achievement of applicants through 3rd grade is just as or more predictive of future success as those of applicants through 8th grade?

NP - what a stupid question.

While competition for 9th grade admission is fierce, that's because the education at STA is rather good. Most 9th grade applicants are coming from K-8s or pubic schools or non-Big 3 K-12s. The number of 9th grade applicants from Sidwell or GDS to NC/STA is vanishingly small.

So what do you think STA does with the boys between C Form and 9th? Have them twiddle their thumbs? No, they're given a first-class education, and while some will be brighter than others, the ones who are selected can handle the rigor. Those who can't are counseled out at Beauvoir, in 3rd grade. Will all Beauvoir kids be as strong as the top kids who enter in 9th? No. But many of them will be -- and have had the benefit of several prior years of an STA education.

The majority of kids at STA are Beauvoir kids. Simple fact. They are disproportionately well represented on most Prize Days, and with regard to elite college admissions.

Make of that what you will.

Actually, the majority of kids at STA are not Beauvoir kids. That's true in the lower school but by about 7th grade, it's probably about 50/50 and by 9th grade Beauvoir kids are probably 30-40% of the class (class size is about 85 and about 30-32 Beauvoir kids move on to STA in 4th grade).

Anyone who thinks STA is only looking at academic achievement when selecting students for 9th grade admissions is deluding themselves. The school fills in plenty of perceived needs in 9th grade, including sports, arts and, yes, academics.

Some Beauvoir kids do fine academically and some do not. Some are elected prefects and some are not. Some are stars on the fields and some are not. Oh, and you can replace the word "Beauvoir" with "a student admitted in 6th/7th/9th grade". Anyone who spouts broad generalizations about this reveals their own ignorance - and that's true either way. Beauvoir kids are not disproportionately well represented at the top or the bottom of the class every year. It varies, as one would expect.

This entire thread is just howling at the moon. STA will take Beauvoir kids. That's the way the schools are set up. Expecting STA to do otherwise is silly.

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Anonymous wrote: There’s Absolutely no basis that Beauvoir kids are less bad which yes is still terrible. This is just the most ridiculous thread I think I’ve ever read on DCM. It’s sad because the people who are making the argument against Beauvoir kids come across as mean, stunted, and stupid.

So your contention is that academic achievement of applicants through 3rd grade is just as or more predictive of future success as those of applicants through 8th grade?

NP - what a stupid question.

While competition for 9th grade admission is fierce, that's because the education at STA is rather good. Most 9th grade applicants are coming from K-8s or pubic schools or non-Big 3 K-12s. The number of 9th grade applicants from Sidwell or GDS to NC/STA is vanishingly small.

So what do you think STA does with the boys between C Form and 9th? Have them twiddle their thumbs? No, they're given a first-class education, and while some will be brighter than others, the ones who are selected can handle the rigor. Those who can't are counseled out at Beauvoir, in 3rd grade. Will all Beauvoir kids be as strong as the top kids who enter in 9th? No. But many of them will be -- and have had the benefit of several prior years of an STA education.

The majority of kids at STA are Beauvoir kids. Simple fact. They are disproportionately well represented on most Prize Days, and with regard to elite college admissions.

Make of that what you will.

Anonymous wrote:It seems like every year 5 or more girls apply to Sidwell. Usually only 1 or 2 are accepted Because spaces are very limited. If the parents of these kids don’t want their daughters to go to NCS why do they start at Bvr? I am
Not being critical I just don’t understand the thinking

Anonymous wrote:It seems like every year 5 or more girls apply to Sidwell. Usually only 1 or 2 are accepted Because spaces are very limited. If the parents of these kids don’t want their daughters to go to NCS why do they start at Bvr? I am
Not being critical I just don’t understand the thinking

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think publishing the results was a dumb idea? It's one thing for the school to make this information available to the school community, as it has in the past, but to post it publicly is a poor choice in my opinion.

Anonymous wrote:None at Landon?

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Anonymous wrote: There’s Absolutely no basis that Beauvoir kids are less bad which yes is still terrible. This is just the most ridiculous thread I think I’ve ever read on DCM. It’s sad because the people who are making the argument against Beauvoir kids come across as mean, stunted, and stupid.

So your contention is that academic achievement of applicants through 3rd grade is just as or more predictive of future success as those of applicants through 8th grade?

NP - what a stupid question.

While competition for 9th grade admission is fierce, that's because the education at STA is rather good. Most 9th grade applicants are coming from K-8s or pubic schools or non-Big 3 K-12s. The number of 9th grade applicants from Sidwell or GDS to NC/STA is vanishingly small.

So what do you think STA does with the boys between C Form and 9th? Have them twiddle their thumbs? No, they're given a first-class education, and while some will be brighter than others, the ones who are selected can handle the rigor. Those who can't are counseled out at Beauvoir, in 3rd grade. Will all Beauvoir kids be as strong as the top kids who enter in 9th? No. But many of them will be -- and have had the benefit of several prior years of an STA education.

The majority of kids at STA are Beauvoir kids. Simple fact. They are disproportionately well represented on most Prize Days, and with regard to elite college admissions.

Make of that what you will.

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Anonymous wrote: There’s Absolutely no basis that Beauvoir kids are less bad which yes is still terrible. This is just the most ridiculous thread I think I’ve ever read on DCM. It’s sad because the people who are making the argument against Beauvoir kids come across as mean, stunted, and stupid.

So your contention is that academic achievement of applicants through 3rd grade is just as or more predictive of future success as those of applicants through 8th grade?

NP - what a stupid question.

While competition for 9th grade admission is fierce, that's because the education at STA is rather good. Most 9th grade applicants are coming from K-8s or pubic schools or non-Big 3 K-12s. The number of 9th grade applicants from Sidwell or GDS to NC/STA is vanishingly small.

So what do you think STA does with the boys between C Form and 9th? Have them twiddle their thumbs? No, they're given a first-class education, and while some will be brighter than others, the ones who are selected can handle the rigor. Those who can't are counseled out at Beauvoir, in 3rd grade. Will all Beauvoir kids be as strong as the top kids who enter in 9th? No. But many of them will be -- and have had the benefit of several prior years of an STA education.

The majority of kids at STA are Beauvoir kids. Simple fact. They are disproportionately well represented on most Prize Days, and with regard to elite college admissions.

Make of that what you will.

Anonymous wrote:Will all Beauvoir kids be as strong as the top kids who enter in 9th? No. But many of them will be -- and have had the benefit of several prior years of an STA education.