Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Post is on his ass and councilmembers are no longer coddling him. He’s done. The violation of campaign-finance law requiring constituent-service funds to be spent on DC residents is the nail in the coffin.

Somehow that doesn't make me feel better. Just shows that being an antisemite is fine and dandy, and it will be emphasized that he's being fired because of campaign finance laws, and nothing to do with his bigotry against Jews. The message is: dump all the shit you want on Jews, and you'll be OK.

That said, I'm glad he's toast.

I'm sorry to say it, but your attitude will make White more popular rather than less. From the perspective of the people he represents, White apologized for his initial remark, but that wasn't enough. He reached out to the Jewish community to be educated, but that wasn't enough. He toured the Holocaust Museum, but that wasn't enough. Now he is being asked to reject the support of a group that is in his community doing real, tangible work. You are literally demanding that hungry people turn down food because you don't like who is feeding them. How do you think that is going to go over?

White is not toast. He might be fined a small amount and he may receive a Council reprimand, but neither will have a negative impact on his electoral prospects. To the contrary, he will exploit both to increase his popularity. Washington Post criticism? Are you kidding me? He will hand out copies as campaign literature.

Why do you think Brandon Todd, Muriel Bowser's trained poodle, is asking for patience and understanding? Why do you think other Bowser supporters are out criticizing the Council Members who advocated censure? Why do you think Bowser herself has been so quiet? They know that White is far from being toast.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Post is on his ass and councilmembers are no longer coddling him. He’s done. The violation of campaign-finance law requiring constituent-service funds to be spent on DC residents is the nail in the coffin.

How long have you lived in "Dee-Cee"? The disbursement from the constituent service fund will result in a slap on the wrist at most. The more that the Post, Jewish organizations, others are 'on his ass', the more Trayon's base will see him as standing up to the Man. We've seen this playbook run in Ward 8 before.

DP. What are you saying? That if Jews stand up to an antisemite, the voters in Ward 8 dig in their heels? It sounds as if you're saying that there is so much hostility toward Jews from Ward 8 poor blacks (be honest.....that's who lives in Ward 8) that they'll WANT to keep the antisemite in office.

Anonymous wrote:The council censured the late mayor-for-life. It mattered not.

Donald Trump has said racist things for years, and we are stuck with him until he is voted out, resigns, or is convicted of a crime. That's how it works. That's why candidates are supposed to receive scrutiny before elections.

Anonymous wrote:The Post is on his ass and councilmembers are no longer coddling him. He’s done. The violation of campaign-finance law requiring constituent-service funds to be spent on DC residents is the nail in the coffin.

How long have you lived in "Dee-Cee"? The disbursement from the constituent service fund will result in a slap on the wrist at most. The more that the Post, Jewish organizations, others are 'on his ass', the more Trayon's base will see him as standing up to the Man. We've seen this playbook run in Ward 8 before.

Anonymous wrote:The Post is on his ass and councilmembers are no longer coddling him. He’s done. The violation of campaign-finance law requiring constituent-service funds to be spent on DC residents is the nail in the coffin.

Somehow that doesn't make me feel better. Just shows that being an antisemite is fine and dandy, and it will be emphasized that he's being fired because of campaign finance laws, and nothing to do with his bigotry against Jews. The message is: dump all the shit you want on Jews, and you'll be OK.

That said, I'm glad he's toast.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you go fishing for anti Semitism in a situation where it's exceptionally hard to prove that the intent was indeed to be anti Semitic , you end up with mofos twisting into pretzels because they've not gotten the outcome they hoped for .

You guys chose to make a big deal out of a situation that from the onset didn't need to evolve into the melodrama it's become . I'm convinced Mr White enjoys being a professional troll at this point , why shouldn't he? He stands to face little to no political fallout .

Who says one has to INTEND to be antisemtitic in order to BE antisemtitc? There are plenty of people who think less of black people, as an entire group. They don't necessarily intend to....they just do. And that makes them racist.

It's sad the degree to which some liberals on this forum twist them into pretzels because they can't face that Democrats, whom they consider so superior, could actually be antisemites. And so the excuses start. Either the guy is an idiotic. Or he's just ignorant. Or he is insensitive to antisemtism but not an actual antisemite. And now, he didn't INTEND to be antisemtitic.

The next time someone makes a bigoted remark against blacks, Muslims, whatever, I am going to defend him by insisting he is not prejudiced.....just that he ignorant or insensitive. Or that the struggle of blacks or Muslims isn't "his struggle." Or that he is just stupid. But racist? Naaaah.

Thank-you!!! ITA.

The Post is on his ass and councilmembers are no longer coddling him. He’s done. The violation of campaign-finance law requiring constituent-service funds to be spent on DC residents is the nail in the coffin.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Farrakhan was pals with Barry and basically served as MC at his funeral. The council went down a slippery slope when it allowed a drug abusing, four time divorced, absentee father, and corrupt politician to become the symbol of our city. It's difficult to rein this type of stuff in once it starts. The council is worthless.

Says who ?

DP. Antisemite Farrakhan was a featured, if not the primary, speaker at Barry's funeral. It is high time all black Democrats - be they city councilmen or U.S. Congresspeople - dissociate themselves from one of the country's most virulent antisemites. What would be the reaction if David Duke speaks at Trump's funeral?? (Or if he donated public funds to David Duke's organization?)

And this crap about....."he's not perfect but he's been good for the black community" is antisemtitic. The message that advocating that Jews are the enemy and practice a gutter religion (and you call Trump Hitler?) isn't all that terrible as long as he's good for black people is saying that antisemitisim is acceptable at best, or tacit agreement at worst. And then, complaints about it go along the lines of "those Jews are too sensitive."

^^^ also, the casual remark made that "he's not perfect," without even have the guts to come right out and say one is adamantly opposed to the absolutely heinous things Farrakhan says - is a way of soft-peddling antisemtism.

Finally, if anyone wonders where my strong reaction to Farrakhan comes from, I had the unfortunate experience of being in a car with one of his "soldiers" (a bodyguard). He knew I was Jewish and said some very upsetting things.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Farrakhan was pals with Barry and basically served as MC at his funeral. The council went down a slippery slope when it allowed a drug abusing, four time divorced, absentee father, and corrupt politician to become the symbol of our city. It's difficult to rein this type of stuff in once it starts. The council is worthless.

Says who ?

DP. Antisemite Farrakhan was a featured, if not the primary, speaker at Barry's funeral. It is high time all black Democrats - be they city councilmen or U.S. Congresspeople - dissociate themselves from one of the country's most virulent antisemites. What would be the reaction if David Duke speaks at Trump's funeral?? (Or if he donated public funds to David Duke's organization?)

And this crap about....."he's not perfect but he's been good for the black community" is antisemtitic. The message that advocating that Jews are the enemy and practice a gutter religion (and you call Trump Hitler?) isn't all that terrible as long as he's good for black people is saying that antisemitisim is acceptable at best, or tacit agreement at worst. And then, complaints about it go along the lines of "those Jews are too sensitive."

Anonymous wrote:When you go fishing for anti Semitism in a situation where it's exceptionally hard to prove that the intent was indeed to be anti Semitic , you end up with mofos twisting into pretzels because they've not gotten the outcome they hoped for .

You guys chose to make a big deal out of a situation that from the onset didn't need to evolve into the melodrama it's become . I'm convinced Mr White enjoys being a professional troll at this point , why shouldn't he? He stands to face little to no political fallout .

Who says one has to INTEND to be antisemtitic in order to BE antisemtitc? There are plenty of people who think less of black people, as an entire group. They don't necessarily intend to....they just do. And that makes them racist.

It's sad the degree to which some liberals on this forum twist them into pretzels because they can't face that Democrats, whom they consider so superior, could actually be antisemites. And so the excuses start. Either the guy is an idiotic. Or he's just ignorant. Or he is insensitive to antisemtism but not an actual antisemite. And now, he didn't INTEND to be antisemtitic.

The next time someone makes a bigoted remark against blacks, Muslims, whatever, I am going to defend him by insisting he is not prejudiced.....just that he ignorant or insensitive. Or that the struggle of blacks or Muslims isn't "his struggle." Or that he is just stupid. But racist? Naaaah.

Anonymous wrote:Farrakhan was pals with Barry and basically served as MC at his funeral. The council went down a slippery slope when it allowed a drug abusing, four time divorced, absentee father, and corrupt politician to become the symbol of our city. It's difficult to rein this type of stuff in once it starts. The council is worthless.

Says who ?

Farrakhan was pals with Barry and basically served as MC at his funeral. The council went down a slippery slope when it allowed a drug abusing, four time divorced, absentee father, and corrupt politician to become the symbol of our city. It's difficult to rein this type of stuff in once it starts. The council is worthless.

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Ward 4 Council Member Brandon Todd doesn't want to punish White for donating to the Nation of Islam. Rather, he is calling on us to have patience and understanding:

https://twitter.com/FenitN/status/987793378124410880

Actually, I support this tweet. The second half does scold him, and basically says what White has done so far isn't good enough. Todd says to give him another chance. OK, that's fine, but he needs to do something to demonstrate that he actually gets it, gets why anti-semitism, even unintended anti-semitism, even anti-semitism that has nothing to do with the community to work for, is a big damn deal. So far he has not. I think Todd's tweet acknowledges that.

Leaving aside the anti-Semitism associated with the NOI, White spent money from his constituent services fund -- money that is suppose to help his constituents -- on an event held in Chicago. His ward is the poorest in DC and the residents there need the money a lot more than Farrakhan does. I think Todd falls short by not addressing the potential illegality or the clear impropriety of that expenditure.

+1.

When you go fishing for anti Semitism in a situation where it's exceptionally hard to prove that the intent was indeed to be anti Semitic , you end up with mofos twisting into pretzels because they've not gotten the outcome they hoped for .

You guys chose to make a big deal out of a situation that from the onset didn't need to evolve into the melodrama it's become . I'm convinced Mr White enjoys being a professional troll at this point , why shouldn't he? He stands to face little to no political fallout .

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:Ward 4 Council Member Brandon Todd doesn't want to punish White for donating to the Nation of Islam. Rather, he is calling on us to have patience and understanding:

https://twitter.com/FenitN/status/987793378124410880

Actually, I support this tweet. The second half does scold him, and basically says what White has done so far isn't good enough. Todd says to give him another chance. OK, that's fine, but he needs to do something to demonstrate that he actually gets it, gets why anti-semitism, even unintended anti-semitism, even anti-semitism that has nothing to do with the community to work for, is a big damn deal. So far he has not. I think Todd's tweet acknowledges that.

Leaving aside the anti-Semitism associated with the NOI, White spent money from his constituent services fund -- money that is suppose to help his constituents -- on an event held in Chicago. His ward is the poorest in DC and the residents there need the money a lot more than Farrakhan does. I think Todd falls short by not addressing the potential illegality or the clear impropriety of that expenditure.