Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:55
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
When UVA moms inevitably brag about their kid getting accepted, just drop a "Good for you." It's subtle, but stings.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:47
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
Yeah, because literally every applicant has an all A's. 50% of hs seniors in the USA have an A average.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/
Grades are a joke. Only SAT/ACT and AP exam scores tell the truth.
Actually, she said that the SAT/ACT is just a data point and not that important compared to the transcript of 4 years worth of classes and grades. So, you're wrong.
Whatever makes you happy. Post back at 6:00. The only kids who got in from our private had 4.67s, 35 ACTs, music awards, and one even had 64 credits of college courses. Watch CollegeConfidential for the stats on the kids rejected. I object to the system because the Deans (and the dog) make UVA sound so encouraging, welcoming and flexible when the truth is that UVA wants what every other institution in the USA wants - more applications so they can turn down your student to drive down selectivity scores. Those institutions that are happy with their selectivity scores (princeton, Wash & Lee) want their yield numbers to increase, hence SCEA and ED I and ED II. This madness was started by the statistics used by U.S. World & News Report. It's not fair to the parents. It's not fair to the students. It makes students apply to more than 10 institutions just so the institutions can boast "We had 35,000 applications this year; a record year" which all the institutions can because of the pressure on kids to apply. I have no horse in the race this year. I just know the system. The reason that post went out was because - like with VT - there are going to be some shocking results at 6:00 and the Dean wanted to pre-address the issue.
Y[b]ou need to chill. You cannot put all of your eggs in one basket (UVA). The school does not owe the 38,000 applicants an admission to the school. There are plenty of 4.67 35 ACT kids. That's just reality.
I don't have a horse in the race. I just know the game, and I studied the VT results. All the VA schools are having problems also with yield - too many students accept. VT had 600 accept for 2017 than was anticipated so they had to triple the students up. GMU also had 600 more accept than anticipated so are taking room privileges away next year for seniors with a certain number of credits, which is causing difficulty for international and OSS students who are now scrambling for off-campus housing.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:37
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If UVA grew to be the size of a mega state university, it wouldn't be the same school. The size is part of the attraction.
+1
+ 1,000,000
An alumna and now Cville resident.
Most people forget that UVA was laid out in horse & buggy days. There's just no parking anywhere. The school has added to the freshman class every year but there just isn't enough dorm space and rush hour in Charlottesville can be maddening if you are anywhere near the university
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:36
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
Yeah, because literally every applicant has an all A's. 50% of hs seniors in the USA have an A average.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/
Grades are a joke. Only SAT/ACT and AP exam scores tell the truth.
[b]Actually, she said that the SAT/ACT is just a data point and not that important compared to the transcript of 4 years worth of classes and grades. So, you're wrong.
Whatever makes you happy. Post back at 6:00. The only kids who got in from our private had 4.67s, 35 ACTs, music awards, and one even had 64 credits of college courses. Watch CollegeConfidential for the stats on the kids rejected. I object to the system because the Deans (and the dog) make UVA sound so encouraging, welcoming and flexible when the truth is that UVA wants what every other institution in the USA wants - more applications so they can turn down your student to drive down selectivity scores. Those institutions that are happy with their selectivity scores (princeton, Wash & Lee) want their yield numbers to increase, hence SCEA and ED I and ED II. This madness was started by the statistics used by U.S. World & News Report. It's not fair to the parents. It's not fair to the students. It makes students apply to more than 10 institutions just so the institutions can boast "We had 35,000 applications this year; a record year" which all the institutions can because of the pressure on kids to apply. I have no horse in the race this year. I just know the system. The reason that post went out was because - like with VT - there are going to be some shocking results at 6:00 and the Dean wanted to pre-address the issue.
You need to chill. You cannot put all of your eggs in one basket (UVA). The school does not owe the 38,000 applicants an admission to the school. There are plenty of 4.67 35 ACT kids. That's just reality.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:35
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
"GPA is not the major factor in our review." - Dean J
Of course not! UVA wants well-rounded students. They look at GPA (in context with the high school's standards), class rank where they can ascertain it (usually through recommendations and honor societies and number of AP courses taken or what the counselor put in his recommendation); national awards, and ACT scores. The ACT scores alone have to be in the 30s. The essays. Eagle Scout. National Merit. How many college courses already taken. The dean is trying to calm down the parents who see the SCHEV reports ranking students all above a 4.0. Their job is to drive as many applications as possible to apply They can't scare students (like my DC who didn't have what it takes according to her public high school counselor) not to apply! They want applications (and sound friendly - look at the dog) to get people to apply so they can be rejected.
UVA can just sit on their hands, and apps would rise every year. This is true for many well-known colleges. Scare people away? Did the Route 29 serial killer scare away applicants? Did the presidential scandal with Teresa Sullivan being fired and rehired scare people away?
When our student went in with us to talk to the public high school counselor about Virginia schools, she was "scared away" when the Naviance chart for her school was pulled up. She didn't have a chance in hell.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:32
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
"GPA is not the major factor in our review." - Dean J
Of course not! UVA wants well-rounded students. They look at GPA (in context with the high school's standards), class rank where they can ascertain it (usually through recommendations and honor societies and number of AP courses taken or what the counselor put in his recommendation); national awards, and ACT scores. The ACT scores alone have to be in the 30s. The essays. Eagle Scout. National Merit. How many college courses already taken. The dean is trying to calm down the parents who see the SCHEV reports ranking students all above a 4.0. Their job is to drive as many applications as possible to apply They can't scare students (like my DC who didn't have what it takes according to her public high school counselor) not to apply! They want applications (and sound friendly - look at the dog) to get people to apply so they can be rejected.
UVA can just sit on their hands, and apps would rise every year. This is true for many well-known colleges. Scare people away? Did the Route 29 serial killer scare away applicants? Did the presidential scandal with Teresa Sullivan being fired and rehired scare people away?
Right. The numbers just keep going up. The more applications the better -- for all the colleges and institutions - because of the ranking systems take into account the percentage of students accepted, i.e., selectivity. All the schools play the game. Remember when GW or American Law hired its graduates to work in admissions just so it could boost the number of law students actually employed when its paperwork went in for the Law School? Same game.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:30
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
Yeah, because literally every applicant has an all A's. 50% of hs seniors in the USA have an A average.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/
Grades are a joke. Only SAT/ACT and AP exam scores tell the truth.
[b]Actually, she said that the SAT/ACT is just a data point and not that important compared to the transcript of 4 years worth of classes and grades. So, you're wrong.
Whatever makes you happy. Post back at 6:00. The only kids who got in from our private had 4.67s, 35 ACTs, music awards, and one even had 64 credits of college courses. Watch CollegeConfidential for the stats on the kids rejected. I object to the system because the Deans (and the dog) make UVA sound so encouraging, welcoming and flexible when the truth is that UVA wants what every other institution in the USA wants - more applications so they can turn down your student to drive down selectivity scores. Those institutions that are happy with their selectivity scores (princeton, Wash & Lee) want their yield numbers to increase, hence SCEA and ED I and ED II. This madness was started by the statistics used by U.S. World & News Report. It's not fair to the parents. It's not fair to the students. It makes students apply to more than 10 institutions just so the institutions can boast "We had 35,000 applications this year; a record year" which all the institutions can because of the pressure on kids to apply. I have no horse in the race this year. I just know the system. The reason that post went out was because - like with VT - there are going to be some shocking results at 6:00 and the Dean wanted to pre-address the issue.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:28
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
"GPA is not the major factor in our review." - Dean J
Of course not! UVA wants well-rounded students. They look at GPA (in context with the high school's standards), class rank where they can ascertain it (usually through recommendations and honor societies and number of AP courses taken or what the counselor put in his recommendation); national awards, and ACT scores. The ACT scores alone have to be in the 30s. The essays. Eagle Scout. National Merit. How many college courses already taken. The dean is trying to calm down the parents who see the SCHEV reports ranking students all above a 4.0. Their job is to drive as many applications as possible to apply They can't scare students (like my DC who didn't have what it takes according to her public high school counselor) not to apply! They want applications (and sound friendly - look at the dog) to get people to apply so they can be rejected.
UVA can just sit on their hands, and apps would rise every year. This is true for many well-known colleges. Scare people away? Did the Route 29 serial killer scare away applicants? Did the presidential scandal with Teresa Sullivan being fired and rehired scare people away?
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:22
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
You're not listening. Of course the SCHEV report has high GPA range. Because the GPAs have been blown out of the water at many schools. Translation: this cannot be used a indicator when literally EVERYONE has >4.0.
Schev. Top 75% at 4.44, median half 4.21, bottom 25% 4.10. Interpret it how you want. But that bottom quartile are he URMs, the home-schooled, the low income students, athletes, musicians and other kids who have something the University wants. http://research.schev.edu/enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp. Also note ACT at 33 for top 25%. If you are a white kid applying from Nova with no hooks that's what you have to have.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:19
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
"GPA is not the major factor in our review." - Dean J
Of course not! UVA wants well-rounded students. They look at GPA (in context with the high school's standards), class rank where they can ascertain it (usually through recommendations and honor societies and number of AP courses taken or what the counselor put in his recommendation); national awards, and ACT scores. The ACT scores alone have to be in the 30s. The essays. Eagle Scout. National Merit. How many college courses already taken. The dean is trying to calm down the parents who see the SCHEV reports ranking students all above a 4.0. Their job is to drive as many applications as possible to apply They can't scare students (like my DC who didn't have what it takes according to her public high school counselor) not to apply! They want applications (and sound friendly - look at the dog) to get people to apply so they can be rejected.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:16
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
You're not listening. Of course the SCHEV report has high GPA range. Because the GPAs have been blown out of the water at many schools. Translation: this cannot be used a indicator when literally EVERYONE has >4.0.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:14
Subject: Re:UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes. In fact, I am an alum and I visited recently. I also lived in the hideous old dorms and survived to tell the tale and I can tell you they have not changed one bit since I attended years ago. I am acutely aware of the size limitations of UVa, but I do think they should allow more in-state students and be more inclusive if they are going to claim being a public university for Virginians.
You didn't notice anything different about Bonnycastle, Kent, and Dabney?
DP. All i can tell you is that renovations that were supposed to start in spring of 2017 to Humphreys and other old dorms didn't happen because focus was shifted to the new basketball arena, or something like that. Lots of griping about it. I don't think Humphreys has been touched.
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:13
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
"GPA is not the major factor in our review." - Dean J
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:12
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
That is NOT what she says! Read again. If it were not a factor, then why does the SCHEV report have top 25% of last year's (2017) class at 4.47, median at 4.23 and lowest 25% at 4.10. Or something like that. Working off of memory. Read between the lines. She's trying to assuage fears. And remember her job is to INCREASE the number of applications overall in order to reject more so that the school's selectivity ratings drop!
Anonymous
03/22/2018 16:10
Subject: UVA out tomorrow
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Dean J posting today about GPA not being a major factor in admissions at UVA: https://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/03/can-we-talk-about-your-gpa.html?m=1
Yeah, because literally every applicant has an all A's. 50% of hs seniors in the USA have an A average.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/07/17/easy-a-nearly-half-hs-seniors-graduate-average/485787001/
Grades are a joke. Only SAT/ACT and AP exam scores tell the truth.
Actually, she said that the SAT/ACT is just a data point and not that important compared to the transcript of 4 years worth of classes and grades. So, you're wrong.