Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:37     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
But look at Rockville and Takoma Park, incorporated cities in a sea of un-incorporated suburbia.

There is nothing to stop a school system from developing independently of a County.


Takoma Park schools are MCPS. The only difference in TKPK is you pay additional taxes to duplicate services provided by the county like police and fire. Basically, TKPK has been subsidizing the W's for years.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:33     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with


+1000

They'll try to justify it til the cows come home, but these people are just pure entitled a$$holes.


You want to take moral high ground, why you go and ensure parents of each student will spend 30 min with their kids, and talk to their kids what they do at school. Once again, this is not about SES, not about race. It is about the responsibility of parents.


If this isn't about race and isn't about class, then what is it about the western part of the county that makes the parents there so much better?

Oh, and by the way, given the suicide rates and self-harm rates over there, I'd be a little less smug if I were you about how much attention the parents are paying to their kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:27     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with


+1000

They'll try to justify it til the cows come home, but these people are just pure entitled a$$holes.


You want to take moral high ground, why you go and ensure parents of each student will spend 30 min with their kids, and talk to their kids what they do at school. Once again, this is not about SES, not about race. It is about the responsibility of parents.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:26     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:

PP here

Sorry, I was typing fast. We had school systems by City. Works way better.


OK, but here in Maryland, which is a different state from New Jersey, we have school systems by county. Different states structure their local governments differently.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:26     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with


+1000

They'll try to justify it til the cows come home, but these people are just pure entitled a$$holes.


I’m trying to wrap my head around being so narrow-minded that you can’t see a possible solution to the nightmare that is MCPS.

Maybe things are good for your kid and you’re happy with the system. Ironically, it seems to me that wanting to keep MCPS as is, because it’s working for YOUR child is actually pretty self-centered and entitled.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:24     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the W schools have a consortium like DCC, Northeast, and Middle school?

What is not okay is thinking that because a certain group has the means they are not entitled to the same opportunities as other areas.As long as we are all tax payers, we are all entitled to the same opportunities. And before you say that the DCC does not have the same opportunities as the W schools, that’s not true. Everyone follows the same MCPS curriculum. The differentiator is parent involvement. MCPS cannot mandate a patent be involved in their child’s education. That’s on the residents of the local communities.


What would be the purpose of this consortium? So that students zoned for Churchill could instead go to Whitman?


APex already exists. Why not give one school the CAP curriculum, one the SMAC curriculum, and create an arts based magnet.


The whole high school gets the magnet curriculum? Because in Lake Bethesda/Potomac, all of the children are above average?
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:24     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Folks advocating this idea should really look at the recent 11th Circuit case to see how federal courts look at wealthy white areas trying to break off into majority white school districts.

Spoiler Alert: They don't like it. They actually don't allow it.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:24     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with


+1000

They'll try to justify it til the cows come home, but these people are just pure entitled a$$holes.


Wanting a better school system makes me an a$$hole? Okay then. I’m fine with that.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:23     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread reaffirms our choice to not attend a W school..


I’m not White and not at a W school and I’d be all for breaking up the county school system.

You can claim racism about anything and everything, but THIS is not about racism.

I grew up in NJ and we had school systems by County. So much better and easier to make changes. MCPS is TOO big to run efficiently.

In a smaller town-based school system, parents often get to know people on the school board and it helps with accountability. MCPS has obvious issues with accountability. Lax school security and lax hiring processes our kids at risk when they hire pedophiles. And nobody gets held accountable.

Right now, MCPS doesn’t meet the kids of any of it’s students very well. Break it up and each town/cluster can focus on its own needs.


Whereas here in Maryland, we have school systems by County.


PP here

Sorry, I was typing fast. We had school systems by City. Works way better.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:23     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:

That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.


Children are not boats, and boats do not have parents.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:21     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:I’m trying to wrap my mind around being this self-centered and entitled but it’s hard to grapple with


+1000

They'll try to justify it til the cows come home, but these people are just pure entitled a$$holes.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:20     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is not difficult to meet the basic school academic requirements if a student can listen in the classroom and finish homework at home. There is no need to have a tutor to supplement additional material to be an average student. So low SES is not the cause of lower performance. It is the parents' attitude. To solve this issue, MCPS needs very special policies. However, other parents of the normal performers are not willing to take these policies. Just like a fast and a slow boat are tied together. You need to stop the boats in order to fix the slow boat, but the fast boat does not want to stop.


What incentive does the fast boat have to stop? What does it get in return for stopping?


That's exactly the problem. MCPS has already made the fast boat sailing very slow now. Parents can no longer tolerate it and now want to separate them, which will do both good.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:17     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:It is not difficult to meet the basic school academic requirements if a student can listen in the classroom and finish homework at home. There is no need to have a tutor to supplement additional material to be an average student. So low SES is not the cause of lower performance. It is the parents' attitude. To solve this issue, MCPS needs very special policies. However, other parents of the normal performers are not willing to take these policies. Just like a fast and a slow boat are tied together. You need to stop the boats in order to fix the slow boat, but the fast boat does not want to stop.


What incentive does the fast boat have to stop? What does it get in return for stopping?
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:15     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why can’t the W schools have a consortium like DCC, Northeast, and Middle school?

What is not okay is thinking that because a certain group has the means they are not entitled to the same opportunities as other areas.As long as we are all tax payers, we are all entitled to the same opportunities. And before you say that the DCC does not have the same opportunities as the W schools, that’s not true. Everyone follows the same MCPS curriculum. The differentiator is parent involvement. MCPS cannot mandate a patent be involved in their child’s education. That’s on the residents of the local communities.


What would be the purpose of this consortium? So that students zoned for Churchill could instead go to Whitman?


APex already exists. Why not give one school the CAP curriculum, one the SMAC curriculum, and create an arts based magnet.
Anonymous
Post 02/26/2018 09:10     Subject: Schools splitting from large ineffective school systems - could the 4 Ws split from MCPS?
It is not difficult to meet the basic school academic requirements if a student can listen in the classroom and finish homework at home. There is no need to have a tutor to supplement additional material to be an average student. So low SES is not the cause of lower performance. It is the parents' attitude. To solve this issue, MCPS needs very special policies. However, other parents of the normal performers are not willing to take these policies. Just like a fast and a slow boat are tied together. You need to stop the boats in order to fix the slow boat, but the fast boat does not want to stop.