Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 23:48     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And everyone on the flight survived! What a time to be alive!

Be thankful you don’t have a child like that. Have compassion for the parents, who have as much right as you do to be there. Put your headphones on and take a nap. You probably annoyed the hell out of someone at one point as a child.


I think you're missing the point. Had everyone been told there was a child with SN on the flight, and that it might be disruptive, and that they greatly appreciated everyone's patience, I imagine the reactions would have been totally different. People can be amazingly compassionate when faced with a situation like a SN child. I bet many of the passengers would have tried engaging the boy and seeing him in a completely different light if they had known he was SN (if, indeed, he was). But most likely, they thought he was just a spoiled kid whose parents weren't making any effort to rein him in. That's enough to make anyone mad.

The parents should have asked the flight crew to announce the situation and I bet the other passengers, while weary and tired, would have tried to make the best of it.


You don't have any right to know about a child's SN or not. I have a SN child. My child would never behave like that. We brought car seats on plan, had snacks and activities and child did a good job except screaming on the first flight at take off and landing for a few minutes at under a year (tried to give a bottle but he refused). These parents made no effort to hold the child, make him sit or entertain him. Instead they demanded the WIFI and let it be others problem. He should have been in his own seat in a car seat. They probably had him as a lap child. I'm surprised the flight staff allowed it as he could have really hurt someone. If he climbed on our seats, I would have picked him up and handed him right back to the parents.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 23:45     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Imagine how the parents feel.


They should have prepared for this trip with some sort of sedation, games, food, etc. or not taken the trip.


Agreed.


+2
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 23:43     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
There is no excuse to film and post that video however it seemed to be a parenting issue over anything. Mom's solution was to demand the wifi be turned on. Huh? You can use an iPad with downloaded apps and movies. This is not a SN issue. Child should have been restrained in a car seat or held. There was no excuse for letting him walk and climb everywhere and its dangerous as if they hit turbulence he could really get hurt or hurt someone as well. People put this on SN but this isn't SN issue. Child may have SN but parent/s need to manage it better. If child is going to scream the entire time, at least hold them down and get them to sit. This is why all kids should be in a car seat under 3-4 and after that in their own seat only.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 23:43     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:And everyone on the flight survived! What a time to be alive!

Be thankful you don’t have a child like that. Have compassion for the parents, who have as much right as you do to be there. Put your headphones on and take a nap. You probably annoyed the hell out of someone at one point as a child.


I think you're missing the point. Had everyone been told there was a child with SN on the flight, and that it might be disruptive, and that they greatly appreciated everyone's patience, I imagine the reactions would have been totally different. People can be amazingly compassionate when faced with a situation like a SN child. I bet many of the passengers would have tried engaging the boy and seeing him in a completely different light if they had known he was SN (if, indeed, he was). But most likely, they thought he was just a spoiled kid whose parents weren't making any effort to rein him in. That's enough to make anyone mad.

The parents should have asked the flight crew to announce the situation and I bet the other passengers, while weary and tired, would have tried to make the best of it.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 23:26     Subject: Re:8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Watch the video. He starts screaming even before they leave the gate. It's awful--I think I would have lost my mind. Even if the kid did have a developmental delay or SN (and it's not clear that he did), nobody was doing anything to redirect, distract, etc.



+1
I watched the entire video. I was pulling my hair out after only a few minutes - I cannot imagine 8 hrs. of this. If the child did have SN, I think it's only fair to have informed the other passengers before the plane even took off. There might have been more understanding of the situation had everyone known whether there was a developmental issue or whether the parents simply refused to make him behave. Climbing on people's seats??? The airline attendants should have - at the very least - made sure the parents put a stop to that. Other people have paid dearly for their own tickets, and to be subjected to 8 hrs. of having a kid climb on your seat? No way.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 23:18     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Who the hell thinks it's okay to film a stranger's toddler and post it online? I don't care if the child is flinging feces at you.

What kind of special (entitled, young, male, likely childless) snowflake is so incensed by children that they do this?


Exactly my thoughts. May this young man, one day, have a toddler of his own.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 23:13     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And everyone on the flight survived! What a time to be alive!

Be thankful you don’t have a child like that. Have compassion for the parents, who have as much right as you do to be there. Put your headphones on and take a nap. You probably annoyed the hell out of someone at one point as a child.


This. I feel horrible for the parents. The passengers too but it is much more painful watching your own child in this condition.


That's why most people wouldn't put their child in that kind of situation.


Pp and you think they were on a 1 week vacation? May be they traveled for treatment, may be for work, it’s nice and dandy to say you would never travel, but not everyone has the luxury to avoid travel.


PP here. People have to make adjustments all the time due to finances, age, health, illness, etc. As someone who works with special needs children every day, I know I would have sought medical advice before embarking on an 8 hour flight with a child who exhibited those behaviors.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:29     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Ugh.... I don’t know... the way that child screamed did sound demonic but that wasn’t very nice to make a video and post on internet. It would be dreadful to be on that flight but also dreadful to be the mom. It’s definitely one of those instances where you thank God it wasn’t your kid.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:23     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Where is the dad?

He probably left the family. I would.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:20     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Old story everyone. Took place in August of 2017.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:19     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Where is the dad?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:15     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Who the hell thinks it's okay to film a stranger's toddler and post it online? I don't care if the child is flinging feces at you.

What kind of special (entitled, young, male, likely childless) snowflake is so incensed by children that they do this?

Then mom should have controlled this pest.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:15     Subject: Re:8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:Why would no one tell him off? He's not a baby but a child who can process some communication. Unbelievable. I would have scolded him, SN or not. There's something called common courtesy.

I am stunned that nobody told the mom off. I would have. I couldn't handle listening to that for eight hours.
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:13     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Who the hell thinks it's okay to film a stranger's toddler and post it online? I don't care if the child is flinging feces at you.

What kind of special (entitled, young, male, likely childless) snowflake is so incensed by children that they do this?
Anonymous
Post 02/15/2018 22:10     Subject: 8 hours of screaming on a flight
Anonymous wrote:He should have been tranquilized.

I agree, instead the whole plane suffers. Mom should have taken him to the bathroom for a spanking.