Anonymous wrote:I think they all knew. See how fast Don Nash, Today Show executive producer, retired after the Ann Curry interview.
Interesting that Katie just got a nice job covering the Olympics for NBC.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly what do you suggest, 15:13?
Not blaming women for men's bad behavior, to start. Just find it odd that no men were blamed for letting this go on so long - not the NBC brass paying his ridiculous salary, creating and nurturing a culture that allowed for this, the other male staff, etc. This thread is all about how it was all Katie's fault.
Did you miss the title of *this* thread?
I bumped up for you the thread about the perpetrator, Matt Lauer.
Right but this one is all about Katie.
Correct. You knew that by the title, right?
We're kind of fed up with people who knew about the smut, but acted like they were ok with it.
I'm fed up with conversations about men and their deplorable behavior being redirected to be about women. That is what you are not getting. The title of the thread is about Katie, not Matt. The blame is on Katie, not Matt. This is troubling and this is why I clicked. The point you are missing is that this shouldn't be about Katie.
Matt is the obvious villain but the women around him that remained silent despite knowing his behavior enabled him to attack even more women so yeah, they’re complicit and guilty as hell.
Please show us where Lauer's been accused of attacking anyone.
"A former NBC employee filed a complaint to the network on Wednesday saying the longtime "Today" show cohost Matt Lauer summoned her to his office in 2001, locked the door, and sexually assaulted her, The New York Times reported.
The woman told The Times that after Lauer locked the door by using a button under his desk, he asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did, then pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair, and assaulted her. She said she eventually passed out, woke up on the floor of Lauer's office, and was taken to a nurse by Lauer's assistant."
...if he somehow left a woman blacked out on his office floor with her pants down after a lovely consensual encounter, it's odd as hell.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly what do you suggest, 15:13?
Not blaming women for men's bad behavior, to start. Just find it odd that no men were blamed for letting this go on so long - not the NBC brass paying his ridiculous salary, creating and nurturing a culture that allowed for this, the other male staff, etc. This thread is all about how it was all Katie's fault.
Did you miss the title of *this* thread?
I bumped up for you the thread about the perpetrator, Matt Lauer.
Right but this one is all about Katie.
Correct. You knew that by the title, right?
We're kind of fed up with people who knew about the smut, but acted like they were ok with it.
I'm fed up with conversations about men and their deplorable behavior being redirected to be about women. That is what you are not getting. The title of the thread is about Katie, not Matt. The blame is on Katie, not Matt. This is troubling and this is why I clicked. The point you are missing is that this shouldn't be about Katie.
Matt is the obvious villain but the women around him that remained silent despite knowing his behavior enabled him to attack even more women so yeah, they’re complicit and guilty as hell.
Please show us where Lauer's been accused of attacking anyone.
"A former NBC employee filed a complaint to the network on Wednesday saying the longtime "Today" show cohost Matt Lauer summoned her to his office in 2001, locked the door, and sexually assaulted her, The New York Times reported.
The woman told The Times that after Lauer locked the door by using a button under his desk, he asked her to unbutton her blouse, which she did, then pulled down her pants, bent her over a chair, and assaulted her. She said she eventually passed out, woke up on the floor of Lauer's office, and was taken to a nurse by Lauer's assistant."
...if he somehow left a woman blacked out on his office floor with her pants down after a lovely consensual encounter, it's odd as hell.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly what do you suggest, 15:13?
Not blaming women for men's bad behavior, to start. Just find it odd that no men were blamed for letting this go on so long - not the NBC brass paying his ridiculous salary, creating and nurturing a culture that allowed for this, the other male staff, etc. This thread is all about how it was all Katie's fault.
Did you miss the title of *this* thread?
I bumped up for you the thread about the perpetrator, Matt Lauer.
Right but this one is all about Katie.
Correct. You knew that by the title, right?
We're kind of fed up with people who knew about the smut, but acted like they were ok with it.
I'm fed up with conversations about men and their deplorable behavior being redirected to be about women. That is what you are not getting. The title of the thread is about Katie, not Matt. The blame is on Katie, not Matt. This is troubling and this is why I clicked. The point you are missing is that this shouldn't be about Katie.
Matt is the obvious villain but the women around him that remained silent despite knowing his behavior enabled him to attack even more women so yeah, they’re complicit and guilty as hell.
Please show us where Lauer's been accused of attacking anyone.
...if he somehow left a woman blacked out on his office floor with her pants down after a lovely consensual encounter, it's odd as hell. Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Im sure Katie Couric knew. NBC is doing an investigation of who knew. Will be interesting.
Then Ann, Meredith, and Savannah would have know too. All the people screaming Katie knew and should be accountable should be screaming about all of his co-hosts.
Anonymous wrote:Im sure Katie Couric knew. NBC is doing an investigation of who knew. Will be interesting.
Anonymous wrote:Whoa. Now Ann Curry is saying that she is "not surprised by the allegations".
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I could assign some responsibility to Katie if she knew what a letch Matt Lauer was but acted friendly towards him and laughed while he cracked crude sexual jokes and was pinching her on the azz in a fairly blatant way in front of the other staff members.
I can see how that might have possibly given an intern the impression that fooling around with ML was an unwritten part of the job description.
The intern was YEARS later. Do facts matter to any of you in the lynch mob?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote: But Why single out Katie and not the dozens of incredibly powerful men working with Matt at the time??? Much more likely he bragged to them like trump to billy bush and not to Katie.
The big bosses were called out somewhere. Of course they're guilty!
But sweet little Katie? We hate her now.
Anonymous wrote:I could assign some responsibility to Katie if she knew what a letch Matt Lauer was but acted friendly towards him and laughed while he cracked crude sexual jokes and was pinching her on the azz in a fairly blatant way in front of the other staff members.
I can see how that might have possibly given an intern the impression that fooling around with ML was an unwritten part of the job description.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Exactly what do you suggest, 15:13?
Not blaming women for men's bad behavior, to start. Just find it odd that no men were blamed for letting this go on so long - not the NBC brass paying his ridiculous salary, creating and nurturing a culture that allowed for this, the other male staff, etc. This thread is all about how it was all Katie's fault.
Did you miss the title of *this* thread?
I bumped up for you the thread about the perpetrator, Matt Lauer.
Right but this one is all about Katie.
Correct. You knew that by the title, right?
We're kind of fed up with people who knew about the smut, but acted like they were ok with it.
I'm fed up with conversations about men and their deplorable behavior being redirected to be about women. That is what you are not getting. The title of the thread is about Katie, not Matt. The blame is on Katie, not Matt. This is troubling and this is why I clicked. The point you are missing is that this shouldn't be about Katie.
Matt is the obvious villain but the women around him that remained silent despite knowing his behavior enabled him to attack even more women so yeah, they’re complicit and guilty as hell.