Anonymous
Post 09/30/2017 13:08     Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

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Anonymous wrote:DC does pay braces for undocumented kids. My friend fostered a girl who is undocumented, and DC has a program that paid her braces. I am not sure how many states have programs like this. Probably not too many. But the district absolutely does.


And does this program also pay for the orthodontia of kids who are citizens but can't afford braces?

Not that I know of. If you're lower-middle class, your kids won't get the same benefits available to illegals. That's why Trump won - people are sick of everyone else coming ahead of them, the hard-working, moderate-earning taxpayer.


LOL. Delusional.

And again.

Just how do you think a hard-working parent earning $40,000 or $50,000 a year feels when she can't afford braces for her kid, and yet the child who is here illegally gets them for free (via a DC program)?


Well maybe the dumb parent making 40-50k should go into business for himself, accept only cash, and have no problems paying for his kids' orthodontia (or get it paid by Medicaid since the kids are legal) bc they don't pay any taxes. Hell, my handyman has all his front teeth crowned. I'm sure he paid for them in cash. Americans have no hustle, I'm afraid.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 22:19     Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

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Anonymous wrote:$135 billion per year, receiving perks middle class Americans can't afford:


Immigrant Welfare Usage by Origin Country

Natives: 30%
Central America and Mexico: 73%
Africa: 48%
Europe: 26%
South Asia: 17%

This is interesting.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 19:02     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Fake news.

However attacking innocent, legal children is a new low for Conservatives.


Is it? They do it all of the time.

I know, right? Kicking people when their down is pretty much SOP for right wingers and always has been.

*they're. I can't believe I just did that.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 19:02     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fake news.

However attacking innocent, legal children is a new low for Conservatives.


Is it? They do it all of the time.

I know, right? Kicking people when their down is pretty much SOP for right wingers and always has been.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 18:09     Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.

Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.


Pro-illegals advocates never count the cost for educating/medicating/free-lunching 'the children' or any cost associated with anchor babies. Everyone who cites the schemes and abuse middle class Americans are paying for is a bigot.

The VA doesn't even cover dental! My dad had to pay for a plan.


Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


Because those children are US citizens, like it or not. They are just as American as any other natural-born citizen. That's who we are: a nation of immigrants, some more recent than others.


It burns them that those children are US citizens just like them and often do better than their own children.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 18:09     Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:$135 billion per year, receiving perks middle class Americans can't afford:


Immigrant Welfare Usage by Origin Country

Natives: 30%
Central America and Mexico: 73%
Africa: 48%
Europe: 26%
South Asia: 17%
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 18:06     Subject: American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm politically moderate and not white. It's not partisan politics to recognize that illegal immigrants costs us. Look around. If you live anywhere in Northern VA you'll see droves of recent illegal immigrants or their children. Our schools are overcrowded, our resources are being spent teaching them English, they get free lunch, and they get money from the local government in other ways. That is how they afford to live her when college educated people with multiple degrees have trouble with the mortgage.

Our current porous border is absolutely unsustainable. And if Obama had addressed this problem better, Trump would not have won.


Pro-illegals advocates never count the cost for educating/medicating/free-lunching 'the children' or any cost associated with anchor babies. Everyone who cites the schemes and abuse middle class Americans are paying for is a bigot.

The VA doesn't even cover dental! My dad had to pay for a plan.


Arlington, for example, spends $19k per student per year. A typical illegal may have 2-3 kids in the school system. If the illegal had all three here (anchor babies) then k-12 for all three costs the citizens $741k. Add to that the free lunches, the free care in emergency rooms, the cost of medical to deliver the three kids, and on and on. Does this minimum wage earner who may very well pay taxes ever make a dent in the cost shouldered by the American tax payers. Not even close.


Because those children are US citizens, like it or not. They are just as American as any other natural-born citizen. That's who we are: a nation of immigrants, some more recent than others.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 18:01     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

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Then stop lying. Undocumented children are not getting free braces courtesy of the US government.


You're just reposting open-border talking points over and over.

I work in public schools and see it every day! American taxpayers are paying for medical and dental work (inc. orthodontia) for undocumented children. Who do you think you're kidding, destitute undocumented kids can't afford $3k-7k braces, yet most of them have them on their teeth!

The wealthy and the undocumented older teens have perfect teeth -- only 30-40% of the middle class families seem to be able to afford braces for their kids. We try to work with middle class families who have a child with really bad teeth (which leads to taunting and kills self esteem) when the families can't swing it.


Then please tell us the specific program that pays for these braces. We have requested this info many times. I am waiting.

Otherwise, stop lying.


+1.
I'd like to know this info as well. I posted upthread about working in clinics in Pg and Montgomery counties. Neither county covers braces for undocumented children. In Montgomery County we do have a wonderful orthodontist that we work with who does give a discount and I believe she also offers payment plans. This is where most of our patients who need orthodontia go if they can afford it.

I'm a conservative in favor of tighter immigration laws, but c'mon, saying tons of undocumented kids have braces is not a salient point in your argument. I see many many of these kids. If their parents work hard enough, they most certainly can afford it.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 17:48     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Then stop lying. Undocumented children are not getting free braces courtesy of the US government.


You're just reposting open-border talking points over and over.

I work in public schools and see it every day! American taxpayers are paying for medical and dental work (inc. orthodontia) for undocumented children. Who do you think you're kidding, destitute undocumented kids can't afford $3k-7k braces, yet most of them have them on their teeth!

The wealthy and the undocumented older teens have perfect teeth -- only 30-40% of the middle class families seem to be able to afford braces for their kids. We try to work with middle class families who have a child with really bad teeth (which leads to taunting and kills self esteem) when the families can't swing it.


Then please tell us the specific program that pays for these braces. We have requested this info many times. I am waiting.

Otherwise, stop lying.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 16:48     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it possible that a private charity paid for the braces you witnessed on your students ' teeth?


You mean like how Catholic Charities hauls in millions (billions?) of tax dollars to resettle immigrants while pretending they do it out of the goodness of their heart?

Somehow I'm not understanding the logic of this.


People see (or don't see) what they want to see. ¯\_(?)_/¯
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 16:45     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it possible that a private charity paid for the braces you witnessed on your students ' teeth?


You mean like how Catholic Charities hauls in millions (billions?) of tax dollars to resettle immigrants while pretending they do it out of the goodness of their heart?

Somehow I'm not understanding the logic of this.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 16:39     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:Is it possible that a private charity paid for the braces you witnessed on your students ' teeth?


You mean like how Catholic Charities hauls in millions (billions?) of tax dollars to resettle immigrants while pretending they do it out of the goodness of their heart?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 16:38     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Then stop lying. Undocumented children are not getting free braces courtesy of the US government.


You're just reposting open-border talking points over and over.

I work in public schools and see it every day! American taxpayers are paying for medical and dental work (inc. orthodontia) for undocumented children. Who do you think you're kidding, destitute undocumented kids can't afford $3k-7k braces, yet most of them have them on their teeth!

The wealthy and the undocumented older teens have perfect teeth -- only 30-40% of the middle class families seem to be able to afford braces for their kids. We try to work with middle class families who have a child with really bad teeth (which leads to taunting and kills self esteem) when the families can't swing it.

Where is this? The federal government isn't paying for anyone's braces. Not aware of any states that offer this but no one has posted this information. Is it possible that a private charity paid for the braces you witnessed on your students ' teeth?


If it is a charity, I still want to know the specifics before I fall for this. Ask them the name of their orthodontist. At a minimum I bet they are getting an excellent price! I could use that information alone.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 16:32     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Then stop lying. Undocumented children are not getting free braces courtesy of the US government.


You're just reposting open-border talking points over and over.

I work in public schools and see it every day! American taxpayers are paying for medical and dental work (inc. orthodontia) for undocumented children. Who do you think you're kidding, destitute undocumented kids can't afford $3k-7k braces, yet most of them have them on their teeth!

The wealthy and the undocumented older teens have perfect teeth -- only 30-40% of the middle class families seem to be able to afford braces for their kids. We try to work with middle class families who have a child with really bad teeth (which leads to taunting and kills self esteem) when the families can't swing it.

Where is this? The federal government isn't paying for anyone's braces. Not aware of any states that offer this but no one has posted this information. Is it possible that a private charity paid for the braces you witnessed on your students ' teeth?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2017 15:45     Subject: Re:American taxpayers pay for orthodontic work on undocumented kids?

Anonymous wrote:
Then stop lying. Undocumented children are not getting free braces courtesy of the US government.


You're just reposting open-border talking points over and over.

I work in public schools and see it every day! American taxpayers are paying for medical and dental work (inc. orthodontia) for undocumented children. Who do you think you're kidding, destitute undocumented kids can't afford $3k-7k braces, yet most of them have them on their teeth!

The wealthy and the undocumented older teens have perfect teeth -- only 30-40% of the middle class families seem to be able to afford braces for their kids. We try to work with middle class families who have a child with really bad teeth (which leads to taunting and kills self esteem) when the families can't swing it.