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Anonymous wrote:Well I just had a great bike ride to work between 8-9am. Granted, it wasn't on River Rd, but all my ride was pretty decent other than a dozen cars parked in the bike line.

It's almost like you guys have whipped yourself into a tizzy over nothing. Maybe try drinking less coffee.

Note to self: park in bike lane today.

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Anonymous wrote:They are mostly (upper) middle aged men trying to feel young and adventurous again.

And no, cyclists should not use the sidewalk. The problem is that our sidewalks and roads were not built and designed for their habits. They want to share the road, but most don't follow laws or rules. There is also such a thing as going too slow - which by design, is a fact for many cyclists (and then they also exceed trail speed limits on local trails). It not conducive to a safe flow of things.

The same is true of drivers, of course.

My advice to you, as a fellow road user, is that, when you're driving, you should focus on driving in a lawful manner.

Oh, bull. The vast majority of drivers stop at red lights. Maintain a range of speed close to the speed limit (may go above, but in a reasonable range). Yield to pedestrians (I am one), drive the right way on roads (ie, not "salmoning") and follow road rules pretty closely. That's not true for cyclists and you know it. Making BS claims isn't helping the cause towards acceptance of cyclists.

+1 to this. Many of the cyclists I deal with on my commute are aggressive white men who act like its a competition between them and the cars. That attitude works against their interests.

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Unfortunate for you, not for us. But think you think it's so unfortunate, try riding on the paths DESIGNED FOR YOU, like a bike path.

But maybe that's a great idea- I'll start lobbying to get to cruise my SUV down the crescent trail. Or at least a golf cart. I'll hang out in the center, cruising at about 8mph, blocking the path, and you can see how you like it.

As for your last line- too bad. It's happening. Deal with it, eh?

You're telling me to deal with the fact that there are drivers who engage in dangerous and illegal behavior.

I do deal with it, every day, unfortunately. Mostly as a driver. It's indefensible.

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DP, they have a right to put their lives on the line. What pisses me off is they are putting *my* well being at risk, too. And every other driver's. I don't want to be the one responsible for hurting a cyclist. The mixing of cars and bikes is not safe. And irresponsible cyclist behavior exacerbates this. I see it EVERY day. Cyclists are highly selective about when and whether to obey traffic rules.

Anonymous wrote:Well I just had a great bike ride to work between 8-9am. Granted, it wasn't on River Rd, but all my ride was pretty decent other than a dozen cars parked in the bike line.

It's almost like you guys have whipped yourself into a tizzy over nothing. Maybe try drinking less coffee.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree, bikers are irritating. They have the right to commute as do cars. Fine. I can still be annoyed though.

No, you can't. They are putting their lives on the line while you're cozy and safe in your gaz-guzzler contributing to global warming.

What you should be doing is paying extra attention to the safety of bikers and pedestrians, ie all those who don't have a metal cage protecting them from a collision.

I drive a car, and that's what I do. Bikers never annoy me. I am concerned for them.

DP, they have a right to put their lives on the line. What pisses me off is they are putting *my* well being at risk, too. And every other driver's. I don't want to be the one responsible for hurting a cyclist. The mixing of cars and bikes is not safe. And irresponsible cyclist behavior exacerbates this. I see it EVERY day. Cyclists are highly selective about when and whether to obey traffic rules.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree, bikers are irritating. They have the right to commute as do cars. Fine. I can still be annoyed though.

No, you can't. They are putting their lives on the line while you're cozy and safe in your gaz-guzzler contributing to global warming.

What you should be doing is paying extra attention to the safety of bikers and pedestrians, ie all those who don't have a metal cage protecting them from a collision.

I drive a car, and that's what I do. Bikers never annoy me. I am concerned for them.

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Unfortunate for you, not for us. But think you think it's so unfortunate, try riding on the paths DESIGNED FOR YOU, like a bike path.

But maybe that's a great idea- I'll start lobbying to get to cruise my SUV down the crescent trail. Or at least a golf cart. I'll hang out in the center, cruising at about 8mph, blocking the path, and you can see how you like it.

As for your last line- too bad. It's happening. Deal with it, eh?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are mostly (upper) middle aged men trying to feel young and adventurous again.

And no, cyclists should not use the sidewalk. The problem is that our sidewalks and roads were not built and designed for their habits. They want to share the road, but most don't follow laws or rules. There is also such a thing as going too slow - which by design, is a fact for many cyclists (and then they also exceed trail speed limits on local trails). It not conducive to a safe flow of things.

The same is true of drivers, of course.

My advice to you, as a fellow road user, is that, when you're driving, you should focus on driving in a lawful manner.

Oh, bull. The vast majority of drivers stop at red lights. Maintain a range of speed close to the speed limit (may go above, but in a reasonable range). Yield to pedestrians (I am one), drive the right way on roads (ie, not "salmoning") and follow road rules pretty closely. That's not true for cyclists and you know it. Making BS claims isn't helping the cause towards acceptance of cyclists.

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Considering the number of bicyclists vs the number of car drivers, clearly it's the bicyclists providing the inconvenience. Glad you agree with my logic though. Now that you're aware of the true level of nuisance you are, seeing you on the road will result in ear-splitting honking and perhaps a last minute swerve. Appropriate punishment.

Excuse me while I e-mail Governor Hogan to tell him the good news: there's no need to spend an enormous pile of money on I-270! All he has to do is ban bicyclists from using it.

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Considering the number of bicyclists vs the number of car drivers, clearly it's the bicyclists providing the inconvenience. Glad you agree with my logic though. Now that you're aware of the true level of nuisance you are, seeing you on the road will result in ear-splitting honking and perhaps a last minute swerve. Appropriate punishment.

Do what now? You compared the number of bicyclists and the number of car drivers on the roads and concluded that it's BICYCLISTS who are slowing your commute?

Please drive safely and legally. I am sure that you do not want to kill or seriously injure a bicyclist with your car. If nothing else, it would make you very late to work.

Yes. Roads are designed for cars. Deal with it.

I don't want to injure them- but putting the fear of God into them until they manage to drive safely sounds like a great idea.

Engineers may have designed roads for cars (unfortunately) but nonetheless the law allows bicyclists to use roads. Deal with it, eh?

Also, no, scaring people is not a great idea. It's dangerous, and it's illegal.

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Considering the number of bicyclists vs the number of car drivers, clearly it's the bicyclists providing the inconvenience. Glad you agree with my logic though. Now that you're aware of the true level of nuisance you are, seeing you on the road will result in ear-splitting honking and perhaps a last minute swerve. Appropriate punishment.

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Anonymous wrote:

Considering the number of bicyclists vs the number of car drivers, clearly it's the bicyclists providing the inconvenience. Glad you agree with my logic though. Now that you're aware of the true level of nuisance you are, seeing you on the road will result in ear-splitting honking and perhaps a last minute swerve. Appropriate punishment.

Do what now? You compared the number of bicyclists and the number of car drivers on the roads and concluded that it's BICYCLISTS who are slowing your commute?

Please drive safely and legally. I am sure that you do not want to kill or seriously injure a bicyclist with your car. If nothing else, it would make you very late to work.

Yes. Roads are designed for cars. Deal with it.

I don't want to injure them- but putting the fear of God into them until they manage to drive safely sounds like a great idea.

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Anonymous wrote:

Considering the number of bicyclists vs the number of car drivers, clearly it's the bicyclists providing the inconvenience. Glad you agree with my logic though. Now that you're aware of the true level of nuisance you are, seeing you on the road will result in ear-splitting honking and perhaps a last minute swerve. Appropriate punishment.

Do what now? You compared the number of bicyclists and the number of car drivers on the roads and concluded that it's BICYCLISTS who are slowing your commute?

Please drive safely and legally. I am sure that you do not want to kill or seriously injure a bicyclist with your car. If nothing else, it would make you very late to work.