Anonymous
Post 08/19/2017 01:02     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.


You don't sound very bright.


She sounds very bright to me. If she can manage to have a happy life and not
work at a paying job where she's controlled by a boss, she's brilliant!


What happens if the boss (husband) files for divorce? Maybe the various hobbies and projects pay a salary...


Let me recap for you. I am at home but my DH cooks. I have outsourced domestic chores. I will not go back to work to just earn a paycheck. I have hobbies and projects. I don't think how that makes my husband my boss? Since I don't work, I will be paid an alimony if we divorce. I have my own retirement account. No prenup and everything is in both our names.
Thank you for your concern. I am quite content and financially set for life. Are you?
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2017 00:21     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

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Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.


Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.



So I guess we still need more women's lib.


Or we can acknowlwdge that people have different strengths, set up our families in ways that work for us, and stop pretending that different can't be even more wonderful than pretending we are all the exact same to achieve "equality".


That actually is women's lib. I'm glad that we agree.


Really? Because you seem upset whenever women say they stay home with their kids. And And God forbid they *enjoy* it.
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2017 00:20     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.


You don't sound very bright.


She sounds very bright to me. If she can manage to have a happy life and not
work at a paying job where she's controlled by a boss, she's brilliant!


What happens if the boss (husband) files for divorce? Maybe the various hobbies and projects pay a salary...
Anonymous
Post 08/19/2017 00:16     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

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Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.


Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.



So I guess we still need more women's lib.


Or we can acknowlwdge that people have different strengths, set up our families in ways that work for us, and stop pretending that different can't be even more wonderful than pretending we are all the exact same to achieve "equality".


Yep. +1000
I have no interest in being part of a bean counting marriage. Those of you who insist on splitting everything 50/50 at all times - knock yourselves out.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 23:57     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

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no, the nonsensical crap is the sock sorting and dry cleaning pickup and stuff like that, everyone has to do it but its not important

agree that the mommy wars are stupid, but they got even stupider in this thread when someone argued that cleaning out closets, getting an oil change, and taking the cat to the vet "benefits the kids directly"

all moms run their households, all moms spend time with their kids, you can't generalize that the way anyone does it is harder or more important than the way anyone else does it, that's why the mommy wars are stupid


Why? Why is this the mother's job, in every family?


Because men typically dgaf if the dresser drawers are organized or if the kids' shoes fit.


I don't know about the men you know, but the men I know certainly care if the children's shoes fit. And opinions about the organization of dresser drawers go by neat people/messy people, not by men/women.


You know what I mean.


No, I don't. Really, I don't.


Then you are a gender obsessed ninny.
NP, btw.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 23:02     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.


You don't sound very bright.


She sounds very bright to me. If she can manage to have a happy life and not
work at a paying job where she's controlled by a boss, she's brilliant!


Controlled by a boss?? Seriously?

I have been an independent worker for over 20 years. Boss serves only to check off pay request once a month.

White collar professional.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 22:11     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.


You don't sound very bright.

One can be bright and still not want to work at a paying 9-5. If it works for them, why does this make them bright? There are other ways to use your brain. Do retirees suddenly become dullards? How is SAH any different?

*not bright
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 22:10     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.


You don't sound very bright.

One can be bright and still not want to work at a paying 9-5. If it works for them, why does this make them bright? There are other ways to use your brain. Do retirees suddenly become dullards? How is SAH any different?
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 22:10     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.


Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.



So I guess we still need more women's lib.


Or we can acknowlwdge that people have different strengths, set up our families in ways that work for us, and stop pretending that different can't be even more wonderful than pretending we are all the exact same to achieve "equality".


That actually is women's lib. I'm glad that we agree.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 19:21     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I completely agree with you- talk about societal changes all you want- but alll of my working friends are the default parent on top of working full time- nothing about that is appealing to me. It's why I SAH.


Bingo. I actually think the product of women's lib actually made it worse for a lot of moms. Saturated employment market, reduced salaries, but now have the cost/burden of childcare.

Families used to get on just fine on one income. Not so these days. And, yes, mom is still the default parent or primary caregiver 8/10.



So I guess we still need more women's lib.


Or we can acknowlwdge that people have different strengths, set up our families in ways that work for us, and stop pretending that different can't be even more wonderful than pretending we are all the exact same to achieve "equality".


+1

My DH is way better at household stuff so he takes care of most of it (dishes, dinner, etc.) even though he works full-time. Always has - even before kids. He enjoys it. We outsource a good amount of cleaning though. I do laundry and kid duty now that I'm not working.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 19:21     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.


You don't sound very bright.


She sounds very bright to me. If she can manage to have a happy life and not
work at a paying job where she's controlled by a boss, she's brilliant!
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 19:16     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.


You don't sound very bright.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 19:14     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.

That's awesome?
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 18:24     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

I don't know if I am a housewife? More of a house manager since I have outsourced most things and my husband takes care of the kitchen after he comes back from his office. I am raising two kids who do normal amount of activities...nothing crazy. They are however doing very well at school. I quit my job to be available to my kids at home, but now that they are just a few years away from graduating, I don't think I will ever go back to work.

I am pretty happy with my life and I am not bored at home. I guess if I become bored once my kids leave then I will think of something. Perhaps I will start a FB account. I don't know. Right now I have my various hobbies and projects that keep me occupied and amused.
Anonymous
Post 08/18/2017 12:45     Subject: Re:Housewife vs SAHM

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Really? You either view the men you know through rose colored glasses or you are in complete denial. Who writes the shopping list, plans meals, shops, schedules appointments, etc, etc.. around your house the majority of the time? Who recognizes and anticipates the children's needs the majority of the time?Who does the laundry, makes the bed each day, loads and empties the dishwasher daily? Who does the majority of the household management? A man? I doubt that! I will never believe that in a heterosexual marriage, the man does the majority of the work. No matter how much you may insist.


Why is it the woman who does the majority of the household work, in a heterosexual marriage?


I don't know. We both woh, 3 kids. My husband does a good share of the work, but no where near as much as I do. He will do anything I ask, but he doesn't anticipate or recognize what needs to be done. Sometimes he says I simply have higher standards than he does, but that is an excuse.