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Anonymous wrote:You are just the kind of person who schools should not let volunteer..keeping track of who might have learning issues who stayed back..people's socioeconomic status. Stay away from the classroom please. You are only there for selfish reasons not to help.

I don't share it with other people. In fact other people tell me bits of info and it all comes together, I don't keep track on purpose.

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Anonymous wrote:You are there to help out. That is all. You are not there to teach, assess or diagnose the children - that is not your role and you have no authority or place to do that. You are not there to review and critique the teacher, either. You are generally there to help out with fairly menial things - like making sure all of the kids have the supplies on their table (crayons, glue, scissors, etc) to do an art project. Maybe stuffing folders or photo copying worksheets, bringing supplies in for a class party, etc.

Not quite. In many schools PTA raises funds to bring enrichment programs in the school, sponsors teacher appreciation events and contributes towards equipment and resources needed at the school. The kind of help you are describing above is usually the role of parent volunteers in the classroom and not what the PTA does. However, it is not unusual that the parent who is volunteering in the classroom often will step up in PTA roles as well.

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Anonymous wrote:So you "volunteered" because you thought it would curry you favors with the principal with class placement? If you'd just stuck to sharing about how frustrated you were that your communicated request for separating your child from another wasn't met, I would have offered some helpful advice. But you had to throw in the part about expecting some preferential treatment because you volunteered.

You're an idiot, OP. You fail to see how your kid will be fine, even with some kids who learn differently. Even worse, though, is that you're an entitled idiot. Please stay in MD.

-Principal of a Title 1 school in Fairfax

I think you're the idiot here, although OP is certainly way too entitled. I started volunteering for the same reason, because truthfully many fcps principals do grant favors to the PTA parents. However, I soon learned that it wasn't so much about favors as about avoiding an unhappy parent who might make waves. Many parents will never speak up, no matter what you do, but a parent that goes to the trouble to be in the school all the time is likely also to have the ability to cause trouble for an uncooperative or just not so great principal. Many principals need to learn that like it or not, there is a customer service element to the job. While I agree the children of PTA moms don't deserve special treatment, ALL children deserve to have the best possible placement, and if you are going to screw someone over then you screw over the pta moms at your own risk.

Anonymous wrote:So you "volunteered" because you thought it would curry you favors with the principal with class placement? If you'd just stuck to sharing about how frustrated you were that your communicated request for separating your child from another wasn't met, I would have offered some helpful advice. But you had to throw in the part about expecting some preferential treatment because you volunteered.

You're an idiot, OP. You fail to see how your kid will be fine, even with some kids who learn differently. Even worse, though, is that you're an entitled idiot. Please stay in MD.

-Principal of a Title 1 school in Fairfax

Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as a selfless volunteer

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you "volunteered" because you thought it would curry you favors with the principal with class placement? If you'd just stuck to sharing about how frustrated you were that your communicated request for separating your child from another wasn't met, I would have offered some helpful advice. But you had to throw in the part about expecting some preferential treatment because you volunteered.

You're an idiot, OP. You fail to see how your kid will be fine, even with some kids who learn differently. Even worse, though, is that you're an entitled idiot. Please stay in MD.

-Principal of a Title 1 school in Fairfax

"Educators" like you are why we pay $40k/yr for our children.

On behalf of all public school principals and teachers, I say "Thank you PP."

Anonymous wrote:You are there to help out. That is all. You are not there to teach, assess or diagnose the children - that is not your role and you have no authority or place to do that. You are not there to review and critique the teacher, either. You are generally there to help out with fairly menial things - like making sure all of the kids have the supplies on their table (crayons, glue, scissors, etc) to do an art project. Maybe stuffing folders or photo copying worksheets, bringing supplies in for a class party, etc.

Anonymous wrote: Most elementary schools have a group of "queen bee" volunteer moms who are quite adept at running off everyone else, then complain constantly about how much falls on them. Their children are typically in the social groups and they tend to turn into mean kids who exclude and bully others.
Some principals kowtow to them. The good ones don't.
The OP sounds like one of these.

Anonymous wrote:I am just venting .

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you "volunteered" because you thought it would curry you favors with the principal with class placement? If you'd just stuck to sharing about how frustrated you were that your communicated request for separating your child from another wasn't met, I would have offered some helpful advice. But you had to throw in the part about expecting some preferential treatment because you volunteered.

You're an idiot, OP. You fail to see how your kid will be fine, even with some kids who learn differently. Even worse, though, is that you're an entitled idiot. Please stay in MD.

-Principal of a Title 1 school in Fairfax

The overwhelming number of parents who spend a lot of time volunteering, do so hoping for preferential treatment. Let's not kid ourselves.

Do you have proof of this? Lots of stereotyping here. I'm the PTA President of a Focus school in Mont. County. I have a full time job and honestly I'm rarely at the school during the day so I'm barely in my kids classroom . I volunteered to be the Pres. because no one else wanted to do it. Let's face it, although people know how much a school benefits from a PTA, very few will step up to actually volunteer. The board members and I are dedicated in helping all the kids in the school. We have never received preferential treatment for being a part of the PTA Board, nor would we ever expect it! That would actually be pretty embarrassing. And to the VA Principal- what does OP's actions have anything to do with MD??

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you "volunteered" because you thought it would curry you favors with the principal with class placement? If you'd just stuck to sharing about how frustrated you were that your communicated request for separating your child from another wasn't met, I would have offered some helpful advice. But you had to throw in the part about expecting some preferential treatment because you volunteered.

You're an idiot, OP. You fail to see how your kid will be fine, even with some kids who learn differently. Even worse, though, is that you're an entitled idiot. Please stay in MD.

-Principal of a Title 1 school in Fairfax

The overwhelming number of parents who spend a lot of time volunteering, do so hoping for preferential treatment. Let's not kid ourselves.

Do you have proof of this? Lots of stereotyping here. I'm the PTA President of a Focus school in Mont. County. I have a full time job and honestly I'm rarely at the school during the day so I'm barely in my kids classroom . I volunteered to be the Pres. because no one else wanted to do it. Let's face it, although people know how much a school benefits from a PTA, very few will step up to actually volunteer. The board members and I are dedicated in helping all the kids in the school. We have never received preferential treatment for being a part of the PTA Board, nor would we ever expect it! That would actually be pretty embarrassing. And to the VA Principal- what does OP's actions have anything to do with MD??

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Anonymous wrote:There was no deal. You are awful.

+1

I can't stand parents like the OP hovering around school with the expectation that their "volunteer work" will bring special favors: these types of parent are incredibly transparent in their motives. This is the type of parent who uses her "volunteer" time to identify the special needs kids, then gossips about them with other parents, and insists her snowflake be placed somewhere far away from the kids she deems undesirable classmates. It is sick.

In the past, I have been very vocal about insisting that children of these types of parent are NOT in my class. I was recently told that a certain mother had gone to the principal to request her child be placed in my class for next year, and I pleaded with the principal to put the kid somewhere else (because I do not want to deal with the mother).

OP, it is possible that you have a reputation among teachers, and the "stronger" teacher, who has some leverage with the principal because there are many parents who want their kid in her class, does not want to deal with you and your meddling. Er, "volunteering." She does not want to deal with you and your volunteering.