Wherever you land on this issue---this is clearly a "distrumption" -- issue raised by Trump admin to appeal to the base and distract from negative news about Trump and the administration.

Anonymous wrote:Asian parents sue Harvard after their kids with perfect GPA's were rejected.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/18/rejected-asian-students-sue-harvard-over-admissions-that-favor-other-minorities.html

You posted a story from 2014. How'd that turn out?

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Anonymous wrote:Cal tech admissions model for all schools.

Cal Tech is 29% whites, 41% Asian and 16% URM.

MIT is 35% white, 26% Asian, and 20% URM.

All the white people clebrating this need to take a minute and realize that if college admissions were truly race blind, there would be fewer whites and fewer URMs, and a lot more Asians. Right now, Asians are the group that takes a hit on college admissions, not whites. And both of the big lawsuits out there on race based admissions are brought by Asian Americans-- not whites.

Bingo. This is what many people are not getting. The affirmative action takes from Asians and gives it to Whites, Blacks and Hispanics. I am of Asian origin and honestly the really good asian students get through to top public schools like Berkley, UNC, UVA, Michigan etc EVEN IF they are rejected admission to Ivies. They do just fine in the end.

So I am for AA but it should be based on Socio-Economic factors with income as a big factor.

If this is a backdoor way to remove the tax exemption Harvard, MIT, Stanford et al. endowments enjoy I'm all for it. Biggest scam going. They're basically massive tax free shelters operating like hedge funds.

Anonymous wrote:Check out this chart to see exactly how this effect plays out in admissions to medical schools.



Article discussing it is here:

http://www.aei.org/publication/acceptance-rates-at-us-medical-schools-in-2015-reveal-ongoing-discrimination-against-asian-americans-and-whites/

You seem to believe this chart demonstrates a problem But it's important that we have doctors from different backgrounds/experiences, because it absolutely affects their practice of medicine and their ability to connect with patients. Men on average have higher MCAT scores than women--should they get preference in med school admissions? Isn't it important that we have female doctors as well as male ones?

There is so much that goes into being a good doctor that is not about achievement scores. You need some baseline level of intelligence to be a good doctor, but beyond that baseline, being a good doctor is about so much more than test scores or even innate intelligence--perhaps especially in the primary care specialties, where we have a shortage of providers. In fact, as discussed in the piece below, personality tests are more highly correlated with medical school success than are measures of cognition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/15/health/14chen.html

High performance on multiple choice tests is not what makes someone a good doctor.

Wait, I thought Republicans hated those "libtard" universities and people with educations. Now they care about who's admitted? Uh huh. Just a ploy.

Anonymous wrote:I guess Trump was right to introduce this as a wedge issue. It's clearly working as intended.

This is pure political theater.

Yup.

I guess Trump was right to introduce this as a wedge issue. It's clearly working as intended.

This is pure political theater.

Anonymous wrote:What all the "offended" white people fail to understand is that even if AA is eliminated your precious snowflake with a high gpa and SAT scores still isn't getting into that school. They'll use other criteria to create a diverse environment.

Some of you seem to struggle with the idea that one could have a principled objection to discrimination based on race. Why is it hard for you to believe that it might not be about someone's snowflake children? Maybe not everyone is as selfish as you are.

What all the "offended" white people fail to understand is that even if AA is eliminated your precious snowflake with a high gpa and SAT scores still isn't getting into that school. They'll use other criteria to create a diverse environment.

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action is institutionalized racism. Time to end it.

Yes, just like we have ended all other forms of institutionalized racism. Wait, what?

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Anonymous wrote:Republicans will be so happy when all of these race blind policies lead to 99% Asians at top schools. Lol

Honesty if this happened, the "top" schools would no longer be very prestigious after a generation. Because it would be likely that Caucasian students going to their big state universities would still go on to become the CEOs, the senators, etc. The Ivy League would just be a source of very skilled engineers and doctors.

And who wants to be a skilled engineer or doctor? So low class

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Anonymous wrote:Why should a black student who has a 3.3 gpa, 1200 sat and who comes from an upper middle class background and has good extracurriculars get into better schools than a white middle class student with a 3.6 gpa, 1300 sat and good extracurriculars? This is reality to many Affirmative action should be on family income not race.

Not that I think for a minute that 3.6 students are losing spots to 3.3 students. But the reality today is that black student will get 50% of the job interviews compared to a white student with the exact same resume, just a different name.

Maybe if their name is Michelle Johnson. Not if their name is Shamika or LaTravinia or Shaunfanauita or any other abomination.

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Anonymous wrote:If universities based admissions on just grades and test scores both Johnny and Jamal would lose out to Jing. Current policies actually favor both Johnny and Jamal. But Johnny's parents are too dense to realize it.

True.

This. Parent of a white TJ kid who just watched college admissions play out. My white male had a much easier road in STEM admissions to top 10 engineering than better qualified Asian applicants. Now, a TJ AA/Hispanic kid in the top half of the class could write their own ticket. But there are almost none

^^ that would probably solve much of the stress and obsession over college admissions and lead to a better society overall, too.