Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 21:55     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
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Anonymous wrote:DP. If one cannot gain admission to UVA after attending TJ, what, then, was the point?


Lot -- most? -- of TJ are grubby families that forego UVA for full merit ride to another college. And the elites offer such good financial aid, anyone under $200K has eyes on them for financial aid.


Sorta. Many TJ kids are excellent students who get a significant amount of merit aid to attend a better engineering school. For all the UVA worship, UVA is only meh in engineering. And I'm not sure why considering merit aid is "grubby". What is wrong with spending less money to go to a better school?

Pull up the UVA engineering rankings. Look at all the schools that are better than them in engineering. Compare the list of schools better than UVA in engineering with the list of TJ acceptances. Notice anything?


Many TJ students are not planning to be engineers.


But many are. The US News top undergrad engineering schools, with number of TJ kids:

1. MIT (8)
2. Stanford (5)
3. Berkley. (11)
4. Cal Tech. (1)
GA Tech (1)
6. Illinois (9)
Michigan (16)
8. CMU. (15)
9. Cornell (13)
Purdue (7)

So, TJ is sending 86 kids out of approx 450 to a top 10 engineering school. 128 to top ten plus VT (currently ranked 16th). That's why the list is impressive.

BTW-- the engineering and CS lists are nearly identical.









NP. I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. Just because its a top 10 engineering school doesn't mean all of the students going there are studying engineering. My kid goes to one of the schools on the list and is not studying engineering.


Many TJ grads major in CS/engineering and some of them become patent attorneys, physicians with CS/engineering background, management consultants or quants at hedge funds, Quant funds or Ibanks. The trend is to hire CS & engineers at these companies. http://www.wsj.com/podcasts/the-quants-today-kings-of-wall-street/5BECBC7F-ADC8-422A-9FE2-B1A12E6114BB.html?mod=cx_picks&cx_navSource=cx_picks&cx_tag=contextual&cx_artPos=2#cxrecs_s

So yes, many of them do study engineering/CS as an undergraduate. STEM majors are extremely in demand at consulting companies, hedge funds and investment banks and at law firms as well. Tell your kids to major in STEM especially CS or engineering.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 21:52     Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
The list is impressive especially because the Ivy's don't admit drone-ish students.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 21:47     Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by VT being the #2 school after UVA. Any idea why so many go to VT?


Merit scholarships and engineering.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 21:37     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:DP. If one cannot gain admission to UVA after attending TJ, what, then, was the point?


Lot -- most? -- of TJ are grubby families that forego UVA for full merit ride to another college. And the elites offer such good financial aid, anyone under $200K has eyes on them for financial aid.


Sorta. Many TJ kids are excellent students who get a significant amount of merit aid to attend a better engineering school. For all the UVA worship, UVA is only meh in engineering. And I'm not sure why considering merit aid is "grubby". What is wrong with spending less money to go to a better school?

Pull up the UVA engineering rankings. Look at all the schools that are better than them in engineering. Compare the list of schools better than UVA in engineering with the list of TJ acceptances. Notice anything?


Many TJ students are not planning to be engineers.


But many are. The US News top undergrad engineering schools, with number of TJ kids:

1. MIT (8)
2. Stanford (5)
3. Berkley. (11)
4. Cal Tech. (1)
GA Tech (1)
6. Illinois (9)
Michigan (16)
8. CMU. (15)
9. Cornell (13)
Purdue (7)

So, TJ is sending 86 kids out of approx 450 to a top 10 engineering school. 128 to top ten plus VT (currently ranked 16th). That's why the list is impressive.

BTW-- the engineering and CS lists are nearly identical.









NP. I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. Just because its a top 10 engineering school doesn't mean all of the students going there are studying engineering. My kid goes to one of the schools on the list and is not studying engineering.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 21:29     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. If one cannot gain admission to UVA after attending TJ, what, then, was the point?


Lot -- most? -- of TJ are grubby families that forego UVA for full merit ride to another college. And the elites offer such good financial aid, anyone under $200K has eyes on them for financial aid.


Sorta. Many TJ kids are excellent students who get a significant amount of merit aid to attend a better engineering school. For all the UVA worship, UVA is only meh in engineering. And I'm not sure why considering merit aid is "grubby". What is wrong with spending less money to go to a better school?

Pull up the UVA engineering rankings. Look at all the schools that are better than them in engineering. Compare the list of schools better than UVA in engineering with the list of TJ acceptances. Notice anything?


Many TJ students are not planning to be engineers.


But many are. The US News top undergrad engineering schools, with number of TJ kids:

1. MIT (8)
2. Stanford (5)
3. Berkley. (11)
4. Cal Tech. (1)
GA Tech (1)
6. Illinois (9)
Michigan (16)
8. CMU. (15)
9. Cornell (13)
Purdue (7)

So, TJ is sending 86 kids out of approx 450 to a top 10 engineering school. 128 to top ten plus VT (currently ranked 16th). That's why the list is impressive.

BTW-- the engineering and CS lists are nearly identical.








Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 20:30     Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by VT being the #2 school after UVA. Any idea why so many go to VT?


Ummm... because it 's the in state engineering school, maybe?

I think every TJ senior I know this you who is headed to VT is going for engineering.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 20:05     Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Did any TJ student(s) win the UVA Jefferson Scholarship?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 19:34     Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised by VT being the #2 school after UVA. Any idea why so many go to VT?


Certainly financial reasons for some. VT is a bargain. My DC has a friend at another FCPS school that turned down Yale for VT Engineering for financial reasons.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 19:27     Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
I'm surprised by VT being the #2 school after UVA. Any idea why so many go to VT?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 19:21     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:Thanks OP. It is interesting to compare the 2017 class to other recent classes:

Class of 2016 destinations: https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_senior_issue_2016

Class of 2015: https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_2015_senior_issue

Impressive all around but it looks like 2017 was either a slightly off year or colleges that TJ students target are getting progressively harder to get into each year or more likely a combination of the two.



OR (this us my bet) - they are accepting less TJ grads because "they will do well no matter what". Something to consider. Peaking in high school is bad.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 19:11     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Thanks OP. It is interesting to compare the 2017 class to other recent classes:

Class of 2016 destinations: https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_senior_issue_2016

Class of 2015: https://issuu.com/tjtoday/docs/tjtoday_2015_senior_issue

Impressive all around but it looks like 2017 was either a slightly off year or colleges that TJ students target are getting progressively harder to get into each year or more likely a combination of the two.

Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 14:14     Subject: TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:TJ women who go to UVA, leave UVA as teachers.


...wait, what?
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 14:05     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:DP. If one cannot gain admission to UVA after attending TJ, what, then, was the point?


Lot -- most? -- of TJ are grubby families that forego UVA for full merit ride to another college. And the elites offer such good financial aid, anyone under $200K has eyes on them for financial aid.


Sorta. Many TJ kids are excellent students who get a significant amount of merit aid to attend a better engineering school. For all the UVA worship, UVA is only meh in engineering. And I'm not sure why considering merit aid is "grubby". What is wrong with spending less money to go to a better school?

Pull up the UVA engineering rankings. Look at all the schools that are better than them in engineering. Compare the list of schools better than UVA in engineering with the list of TJ acceptances. Notice anything?


My point was families I know with TJ kids are hunting for the best deal when it comes to college, they're not paying out of pocket for prestige, so this could make the destination list less status-heavy.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 13:26     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:DP. If one cannot gain admission to UVA after attending TJ, what, then, was the point?


Lot -- most? -- of TJ are grubby families that forego UVA for full merit ride to another college. And the elites offer such good financial aid, anyone under $200K has eyes on them for financial aid.


Sorta. Many TJ kids are excellent students who get a significant amount of merit aid to attend a better engineering school. For all the UVA worship, UVA is only meh in engineering. And I'm not sure why considering merit aid is "grubby". What is wrong with spending less money to go to a better school?

Pull up the UVA engineering rankings. Look at all the schools that are better than them in engineering. Compare the list of schools better than UVA in engineering with the list of TJ acceptances. Notice anything?


Many TJ students are not planning to be engineers.
Anonymous
Post 06/19/2017 13:23     Subject: Re:TJ Class of 2017 College Destination List
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP. If one cannot gain admission to UVA after attending TJ, what, then, was the point?


Lot -- most? -- of TJ are grubby families that forego UVA for full merit ride to another college. And the elites offer such good financial aid, anyone under $200K has eyes on them for financial aid.


Sorta. Many TJ kids are excellent students who get a significant amount of merit aid to attend a better engineering school. For all the UVA worship, UVA is only meh in engineering. And I'm not sure why considering merit aid is "grubby". What is wrong with spending less money to go to a better school?

Pull up the UVA engineering rankings. Look at all the schools that are better than them in engineering. Compare the list of schools better than UVA in engineering with the list of TJ acceptances. Notice anything?