Anonymous wrote:While racial quotas are not legal, there is nothing illegal about using socioeconomic diversity to guide enrollment/transfer policy. Over 100 jurisdictions across the country are doing so already. APS should be among them.

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Anonymous wrote:Quit threatening to move and just do it already. You won't be missed. You think there isn't a line of people looking for a good commute, yard, and a descent school? Yorktown isn't all that. If people will buy for Wilson, they'll buy for Yorktown.
So move, you're a dime a dozen. Plenty of umc white people want in and commuting from further out gets worse every year.
So move. Bye.

Plenty of descent schools in APS right now, unfortunately.

Anonymous wrote:Quit threatening to move and just do it already. You won't be missed. You think there isn't a line of people looking for a good commute, yard, and a descent school? Yorktown isn't all that. If people will buy for Wilson, they'll buy for Yorktown.
So move, you're a dime a dozen. Plenty of umc white people want in and commuting from further out gets worse every year.
So move. Bye.

Anonymous wrote:Quit threatening to move and just do it already. You won't be missed. You think there isn't a line of people looking for a good commute, yard, and a descent school? Yorktown isn't all that. If people will buy for Wilson, they'll buy for Yorktown.
So move, you're a dime a dozen. Plenty of umc white people want in and commuting from further out gets worse every year.
So move. Bye.

So really the most practical option is total choice like what they do in DC. I don't get why some of yall bashed it so much. Its the most realistic solution to trying to get some form of equity in education.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you voluntarily & legally promote diversity? I thought quotas were illegal. Didn't HB get in trouble many years ago for having some kind of system like that?

Magnet schools--but this seldom works really well. You lose the community feel-

Is that what all you weirdos want magnet schools?

So if there are diverse kids in the building thats all that matters lol

Because I can tell you the magnet and non-magnet kids are not going to be mixing together

I guess in the end it makes sense because as stated earlier the only people who are really worried are white folks from southern arlington and magnets let you get a lower priced house with a better school win win

No, and that's not what anyone is asking for. Do you even live here? We already have "option" programs where kids aren't tracked into separate programs--they are all part of the program if they're at that school. The ideal situation is that kids attend their own diverse neighborhood schools. I don't think you'll find many who don't consider that the ideal. But we since don't yet have these idyllic diverse neighborhoods in all areas of the county, option schools and transfers allow families who prioritize diversity, or a program, or a pedagogy, to prioritize what matters most to them now instead of waiting for some magical time in the future when our civic associations will all be totally cool with major changes to zoning that would allow for "natural" economic/cultural/racial/ethnic diversity to take hold. Our kids only get one childhood, one educational experience. What kind of environment is best? Is it hypersegregation? I don't think it is, not for any of our kids, regardless of where their families fall on the income spectrum.

People have been calling for a working group to talk about this issue for over two years now. Has it happened? NO. They can create a Working Group to study the field lights at one MS, a three year study in NIMBY masturbation that accomplished nothing, but not one single working group or task force or community round-table to even talk about this issue.

I've heard both Goldstein and Kanninen at work sessions or meetings talking about removing logistical barriers for transfers, or allowing preschool students to remain at out-of-boundary neighborhood schools with transportation provided, assuming space is available and as a choice, or codifying that every option school should have a certain number of preschool students who are guaranteed admittance for Kindergarten (they wouldn't be forced to enroll), but this policy doesn't address these ideas at all. I think they proposed putting something into policy because the current board is not only not doing things to decrease economic disparities, but as boundary changes and policy changes are occurring, they are are flirting with undoing past attempts at desegregation, citing "proximity" as the overriding concern. And making comments disparaging affirmative action as social engineering. Isn't that a microagression?

While racial quotas are not legal, there is nothing illegal about using socioeconomic diversity to guide enrollment/transfer policy. Over 100 jurisdictions across the country are doing so already. APS should be among them.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you voluntarily & legally promote diversity? I thought quotas were illegal. Didn't HB get in trouble many years ago for having some kind of system like that?

Magnet schools--but this seldom works really well. You lose the community feel-

Is that what all you weirdos want magnet schools?

So if there are diverse kids in the building thats all that matters lol

Because I can tell you the magnet and non-magnet kids are not going to be mixing together

I guess in the end it makes sense because as stated earlier the only people who are really worried are white folks from southern arlington and magnets let you get a lower priced house with a better school win win

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Hello? anybody home in there? So, all the kids were poor.? That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about mixing up the socioeconomic segregation.

The affluent kids in the neighborhood left for private schools.

Bye

I was a teacher--not a parent. And, yes, this was for racial integration. However, the results are the same.

Please give me an example of where bussing works.

ATS
Drew
Key

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Anonymous wrote:How do you voluntarily & legally promote diversity? I thought quotas were illegal. Didn't HB get in trouble many years ago for having some kind of system like that?

Magnet schools--but this seldom works really well. You lose the community feel-

Is that what all you weirdos want magnet schools?

So if there are diverse kids in the building thats all that matters lol

Because I can tell you the magnet and non-magnet kids are not going to be mixing together

I guess in the end it makes sense because as stated earlier the only people who are really worried are white folks from southern arlington and magnets let you get a lower priced house with a better school win win

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Anonymous wrote:

Hello? anybody home in there? So, all the kids were poor.? That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about mixing up the socioeconomic segregation.

The affluent kids in the neighborhood left for private schools.

Bye

I was a teacher--not a parent. And, yes, this was for racial integration. However, the results are the same.

Please give me an example of where bussing works.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you voluntarily & legally promote diversity? I thought quotas were illegal. Didn't HB get in trouble many years ago for having some kind of system like that?

Magnet schools--but this seldom works really well. You lose the community feel-

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Anonymous wrote:How do you voluntarily & legally promote diversity? I thought quotas were illegal. Didn't HB get in trouble many years ago for having some kind of system like that?

Magnet schools--but this seldom works really well. You lose the community feel-

Anonymous wrote:This busing argument is a red herring. No one is asking for it. RG explicitly stated he wasn't advocating for busing. He was simply trying to promote any VOLUNTARY means of increasing diversity, like APS providing transportation to those who CHOOSE to attend a less diverse school and who would increase the diversity there.