Anonymous
Post 03/23/2023 13:12     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I knew someone who went through a mediocre school system in a southern state we all secretly feel is "backwards." A person in authority saw something in this individual, singled them out, sent them to a special "post high school" remedial school, subsequently funneled this individual and others like them into a highly regarded college. This individual graduated from this college, later attended an Ivy League for a graduate degree, and had a fine career. True story.

It's not the kids. It's the schools.


I seriously doubt that individual had an IQ below 85. There are many kids in this country in all states who are unable to handle the required academic load. They often get into trouble of some sort or drop out. We need more vocational programs so those kids can learn the skills needed for employment.


Well, who said anything about an IQ below 85? Clearly this person's IQ is well above 85. This thread is about a teacher writing off an entire class of kids, wholesale.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2023 12:51     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I knew someone who went through a mediocre school system in a southern state we all secretly feel is "backwards." A person in authority saw something in this individual, singled them out, sent them to a special "post high school" remedial school, subsequently funneled this individual and others like them into a highly regarded college. This individual graduated from this college, later attended an Ivy League for a graduate degree, and had a fine career. True story.

It's not the kids. It's the schools.


I seriously doubt that individual had an IQ below 85. There are many kids in this country in all states who are unable to handle the required academic load. They often get into trouble of some sort or drop out. We need more vocational programs so those kids can learn the skills needed for employment.



I just had an IEP meeting for a student who scored 52 as his FSIQ. I doubt it’s that low but he learns very slowly. He basically needs to repeat each grade to be able to learn the content. It’s sad but I usually have a student every year or so test in the 70s. They don’t get an IEP because they are working to their potential.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2023 11:27     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:I knew someone who went through a mediocre school system in a southern state we all secretly feel is "backwards." A person in authority saw something in this individual, singled them out, sent them to a special "post high school" remedial school, subsequently funneled this individual and others like them into a highly regarded college. This individual graduated from this college, later attended an Ivy League for a graduate degree, and had a fine career. True story.

It's not the kids. It's the schools.


I seriously doubt that individual had an IQ below 85. There are many kids in this country in all states who are unable to handle the required academic load. They often get into trouble of some sort or drop out. We need more vocational programs so those kids can learn the skills needed for employment.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2023 08:04     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

I knew someone who went through a mediocre school system in a southern state we all secretly feel is "backwards." A person in authority saw something in this individual, singled them out, sent them to a special "post high school" remedial school, subsequently funneled this individual and others like them into a highly regarded college. This individual graduated from this college, later attended an Ivy League for a graduate degree, and had a fine career. True story.

It's not the kids. It's the schools.
Anonymous
Post 03/23/2023 07:48     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:I call troll.

No HS is worried about( or cares about ) Facebook.


The OP posted six years ago.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 19:12     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

I call troll.

No HS is worried about( or cares about ) Facebook.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 19:09     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

I wonder what happened to OP.
I will say my own high IQ kids have definitely gotten more dumb with screens and iPhones. They used to have diverse interests and could talk intelligently on a variety of topics. Now they are you watch stupid crap on Tik too and speak in memes. I tried taking the phones but they have chrome books from school anyway.
But my hope is that the skill set required for the future will somehow be well matched for the generation that is growing now. Lord knows that our grandparents’ skills sets were not particularly useful for our generation. Maybe Dumb is the New Snart. Or something like that.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2023 16:58     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:Well aren't teachers just passing students these days anyway?


Not in school systems with teachers and administrators who sincerely care if their students actually learn needed skills and have appropriate rewards and consequences for following school rules. Place students in the right programs suited to abilities and skills with appropriate supports.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 23:11     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Well aren't teachers just passing students these days anyway?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 22:31     Subject: Re:My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sad to see nothing has changed in six years. This completely describes my middle schoolers. I’m so tired of people blaming this on the pandemic.


I mean, what’s your solution?

You seem like a troll.



Don’t know l which pp you are referring to. I’m the top one who said this describes my middle schoolers and sad to see things haven’t changed.
What on earth marks this as a troll post to you?


Reviving a 6 year old thread, discussing the pandemic unbidden in the context of a six year old thread, generally attempting just to say inflammatory things about children.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 19:19     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

The best way to get ahead as a teacher is to get admin off your back. Inflate the grades and pass them to the next level. This will go on until mcps gets what bmore got. Elementary level high schoolers that just run around like hooligans disrupting the students that actually want to learn ( which are fewer and further between). Basically if you want accountability and honest learning you might want to teach in china.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 19:19     Subject: Re:My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sad to see nothing has changed in six years. This completely describes my middle schoolers. I’m so tired of people blaming this on the pandemic.


I mean, what’s your solution?

You seem like a troll.



Don’t know l which pp you are referring to. I’m the top one who said this describes my middle schoolers and sad to see things haven’t changed.
What on earth marks this as a troll post to you?
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 19:16     Subject: Re:My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:Sad to see nothing has changed in six years. This completely describes my middle schoolers. I’m so tired of people blaming this on the pandemic.


I mean, what’s your solution?

You seem like a troll.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 19:14     Subject: Re:My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Sad to see nothing has changed in six years. This completely describes my middle schoolers. I’m so tired of people blaming this on the pandemic.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2023 15:17     Subject: My students are dumb...just completely and utterly dumb

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So circle their misspellings in red ink, mark them off for it and have then resubmit with corrected spellings for a better grade.

They won't know what they are doing wrong if you don't TELL them!


That’s funny. Most kids at these failing schools don’t submit homework for the first time, let alone correct it and resubmit. They don’t care


So what's your solution? Just...end school for those kids?