Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 08:53     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

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Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.


This!

Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, testified during a hearing last month that unmasking would occur only if there is a “national security implication,” or if a “criminal activity” was being discussed.

Rice would have made any unmasking before she left office on January 20. But by then, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told NBC News on March 5 that there was no evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Still, Flynn’s name and the contents of his conversation with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — which were classified — were leaked to the Washington Post and published in a February 9 article.

Someone is in a shitload of trouble.


The cover up is worse than the crime. Flynn was fired because he lied. Sessions lied. The WH lies every day.

You just hate Trump. Fess up.


I'd be fine with him if he, and all the rest of them, would stop lying.

Indeed. You'd be better off with Hillary Clinton. LOL!


DP. Gosh, you are lame.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:50     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

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Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.


This!

Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, testified during a hearing last month that unmasking would occur only if there is a “national security implication,” or if a “criminal activity” was being discussed.

Rice would have made any unmasking before she left office on January 20. But by then, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told NBC News on March 5 that there was no evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Still, Flynn’s name and the contents of his conversation with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — which were classified — were leaked to the Washington Post and published in a February 9 article.

Someone is in a shitload of trouble.


The cover up is worse than the crime. Flynn was fired because he lied. Sessions lied. The WH lies every day.

You just hate Trump. Fess up.


I'd be fine with him if he, and all the rest of them, would stop lying.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:47     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

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Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.


This!

Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, testified during a hearing last month that unmasking would occur only if there is a “national security implication,” or if a “criminal activity” was being discussed.

Rice would have made any unmasking before she left office on January 20. But by then, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told NBC News on March 5 that there was no evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Still, Flynn’s name and the contents of his conversation with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — which were classified — were leaked to the Washington Post and published in a February 9 article.

Someone is in a shitload of trouble.


The cover up is worse than the crime. Flynn was fired because he lied. Sessions lied. The WH lies every day.

You just hate Trump. Fess up.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:45     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.


This!

Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, testified during a hearing last month that unmasking would occur only if there is a “national security implication,” or if a “criminal activity” was being discussed.

Rice would have made any unmasking before she left office on January 20. But by then, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told NBC News on March 5 that there was no evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Still, Flynn’s name and the contents of his conversation with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — which were classified — were leaked to the Washington Post and published in a February 9 article.

Someone is in a shitload of trouble.


The cover up is worse than the crime. Flynn was fired because he lied. Sessions lied. The WH lies every day.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:40     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.


This!

Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, testified during a hearing last month that unmasking would occur only if there is a “national security implication,” or if a “criminal activity” was being discussed.

Rice would have made any unmasking before she left office on January 20. But by then, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told NBC News on March 5 that there was no evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Still, Flynn’s name and the contents of his conversation with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — which were classified — were leaked to the Washington Post and published in a February 9 article.

Someone is in a shitload of trouble.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:36     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.


Well, yeah, actually, if you communicate with foreign agents, our government does spy on you. They may or may not keep the communications? (most of it is not saved) and may or may not do anything with them. But they will spy on you.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:33     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.


This!

Navy Adm. Michael Rogers, director of the National Security Agency, testified during a hearing last month that unmasking would occur only if there is a “national security implication,” or if a “criminal activity” was being discussed.

Rice would have made any unmasking before she left office on January 20. But by then, Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told NBC News on March 5 that there was no evidence of any collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign.

Still, Flynn’s name and the contents of his conversation with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak — which were classified — were leaked to the Washington Post and published in a February 9 article.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:29     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That was her job. Stop embarrassing yourself, OP. Are you the same poster who thinks the VP passes laws?


What is her job? To conduct surveillance of the private AmCit? Based on what?


...on the fact that those American citizens were speaking with foreign spies and adversaries? Duh.


^ This is the far bigger problem and potential threat to national security. Whining about Rice is just shooting the messenger and missing the point.


As far as I know, American citizens are not prohibited in any way to interact with foreign nationals. So far, the administration produced no evidence that foreign nationals were spies. Just because you have relations (business or personal) with a foreign nationals, does not automatically mean that American government can spy on you.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 07:00     Subject: Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

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Anonymous wrote:OP, are you and others pushing this line actually saying that the US cannot surveil foreign threats if those foreign agents happen to call up an American citizen?

So to follow your line of thinking, if American intelligence was surveilling an ISIS leader who then happened to start interacting secretly with someone on the Trump team, the surveillance should automatically end because that would be "spying" on the Trump official?

WTF?


This has been explained again and again. Why don't you re-read the thread, and if you are still outraged, go read some media.


Once again: The PERFECT analogy in all of this whining about "leaking" and "unmasking" would be if Donald Trump actually DID shoot someone to death on Times Square in broad daylight and someone caught video of it with their camera phone and posted it via an anonymous Twitter account.

The Trump supporters would all be whining about the person with the camera phone disclosing it rather than having any concern about the murder that just happened.

Whining about Rice et cetera is a deflection from the REAL problem, that being why Trump's people were caught up in this in the first place. It's because they were communicating with people who are a threat to our national security. And we've still gotten no explanation about the nature or purpose of those communications - and from the Trump team we've gotten nothing but lies and denials and deflections. That tends to indicate that whatever was going on was not above board.

And the more people keep tugging at threads, the more and more strange connections keep coming up. And none of it is going away. It all just keeps piling up.

Try explaining THAT.


Sounds like you had a good talk with your tinfoil hat.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 06:52     Subject: Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

So far, there is nothing that Rice has done that is illegal. As others have noted, if in fact there are unmasked names that SHE leaked to the media, then yes, that would be illegal.

But again the only reason all of these Trump people including possibly Trump are caught up in this is because they were having conversations with people who work for a foreign adversary and were caught as collateral. If they were not colluding with the Russians, they wouldn't be on tape.

Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 06:26     Subject: Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

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Anonymous wrote:Just goes to show you all this is just the Obama administration going after Trump. Talk about fake news.


This news gets no coverage on CNN, NY Times, Washington Post ...

No wonder people trust wikileaks more than the fake MSM.



If a political story isn't being covered by CNN, NYT or Washington Post...then it's not a story.


You got it backwards. This is a huge story. Sadly ABC/NBC/CBS didn't have anything to report either. The media in our country is no better than some third world propaganda. They are in the business of reporting news and facts not choosing what to report.[/quote

Actually I did a google search and the liberal press *IS* talking about this. They are defending Rice, but they are talking about it.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 06:22     Subject: Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

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Anonymous wrote:Very strange that what bothers Trumpkins is not the potential that Trump's closest advisers and inner circle may have been actively colluding with the Russians but that they were caught. Party over country, FFS.


If there was proof of this, it would have been leaked a long time ago. Like, before the election.




If you get your news from sources other than Fox and Breitbart, you will be introduced to all sorts of sources. In fact, there are two very long threads in this forum that have hundreds of links explaining the connections.



Once again, a refresher for Comrade.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/trump-russia/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_russiatrumpties-0442pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.2a00eb65f8e3
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 06:14     Subject: Re:Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

Anonymous wrote:So much of the peaceful transfer of power


Right? When you have a foreign country meddling in your elections and attempting to sway voters and then the guy who wins, wins by the narrowest of margins and then it turns out there may have been close advisors and others who were essentially working for that foreign entity within that campaign. Crazy.
Anonymous
Post 04/04/2017 05:17     Subject: Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

It's been pointed out that if the identies were masked she could not have KNOWN it was Trump et al. when she (perfectly legally) requested them to be unmasked, right?

If you're caught doing shady shit I'm not sorry about you getting caught. I'm mad you're doing shady shit.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2017 23:25     Subject: Reported: Susan Rice unmasked names caught up in surveillance

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, are you and others pushing this line actually saying that the US cannot surveil foreign threats if those foreign agents happen to call up an American citizen?

So to follow your line of thinking, if American intelligence was surveilling an ISIS leader who then happened to start interacting secretly with someone on the Trump team, the surveillance should automatically end because that would be "spying" on the Trump official?

WTF?


This has been explained again and again. Why don't you re-read the thread, and if you are still outraged, go read some media.


Once again: The PERFECT analogy in all of this whining about "leaking" and "unmasking" would be if Donald Trump actually DID shoot someone to death on Times Square in broad daylight and someone caught video of it with their camera phone and posted it via an anonymous Twitter account.

The Trump supporters would all be whining about the person with the camera phone disclosing it rather than having any concern about the murder that just happened.

Whining about Rice et cetera is a deflection from the REAL problem, that being why Trump's people were caught up in this in the first place. It's because they were communicating with people who are a threat to our national security. And we've still gotten no explanation about the nature or purpose of those communications - and from the Trump team we've gotten nothing but lies and denials and deflections. That tends to indicate that whatever was going on was not above board.

And the more people keep tugging at threads, the more and more strange connections keep coming up. And none of it is going away. It all just keeps piling up.

Try explaining THAT.