Anonymous
Post 12/09/2016 11:47     Subject: Re:Trump's cabinet appointments

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have nothing good to say about the cabinet pics that I've heard about, because they all seem focused on scuttling the agencies they are proposed to head, with the exception of the defense and security picks. But a national security advisor who believes there are pedophilia tunnels under Comet pizza? UFB!


The people he is appointing are intent on fundamentally changing some of the agencies they will be heading but he did not pretend that he was going to do otherwise because he said he was going to "shake up" how things are being done.

You and I may not agree with those changes but that is neither here nor there because he won the election and in so doing he can make those changes with congressional approval where necessary.

Obama wanted to pass coverage for those who did not have healthcare coverage and he did it despite universal Republican opposition. It was an extensive change but he said he wanted to do so when he ran for president and he won which gave him the right to do so.

It is the way things work when an individual/party wins an election. If he over-reaches or his changes don't work out, he and the Republicans will pay the price in 2018 and 2020.


Revisionist history.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2016 11:22     Subject: Re:Trump's cabinet appointments

Anonymous wrote:I have nothing good to say about the cabinet pics that I've heard about, because they all seem focused on scuttling the agencies they are proposed to head, with the exception of the defense and security picks. But a national security advisor who believes there are pedophilia tunnels under Comet pizza? UFB!


The people he is appointing are intent on fundamentally changing some of the agencies they will be heading but he did not pretend that he was going to do otherwise because he said he was going to "shake up" how things are being done.

You and I may not agree with those changes but that is neither here nor there because he won the election and in so doing he can make those changes with congressional approval where necessary.

Obama wanted to pass coverage for those who did not have healthcare coverage and he did it despite universal Republican opposition. It was an extensive change but he said he wanted to do so when he ran for president and he won which gave him the right to do so.

It is the way things work when an individual/party wins an election. If he over-reaches or his changes don't work out, he and the Republicans will pay the price in 2018 and 2020.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2016 07:06     Subject: Re:Trump's cabinet appointments

Anonymous wrote:
Flynn was a rogue operator and egomaniac who was pushed out by his colleagues at DOD. He was a tireless self promoter who clashed with DNI Clapper and other senior intelligence officials as he tried to expand the mission of DIA to compete more directly with the CIA.
S


Sure, this is the version being put out by Flynn's detractors.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2016 22:08     Subject: Re:Trump's cabinet appointments

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what is wrong with the left ...... basically they cannot accept they lost. To make matters worse they can't believe they lost to Trump!

https://spectator.org/theyve-gone-insane/



+1.

Most of the appointments have been surprisingly good


In what way? Please be specific about each person as to why they were excellent choices for the cabinet or administration position. Experience, temperament, etc.


For example, the new Ambassador to China.

Had never even heard of him,
and somehow the Trump team found this guy who has a decades-long trust relationship with the top leader of a country where trust is paramount.


Are you serious? Terry Branstad former governor of Iowa, and you never heard of him?


Never.

I have more interesting things going on in my life than knowing who's a former governor of Iowa.

And that's just one example, there are more.



He's the sitting Governor. And yet you have enough time to comment on something about which you know nothing? Very Trumpesque in our post-truth era.


It was one of your liberal friends who said above he was the former governor. I just said I had never heard of him.

Can you read? If not, how Trumpesque of you to comment.

Neither of you, incidentally, seem to understand the main point I made.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2016 21:53     Subject: Re:Trump's cabinet appointments

Anonymous wrote:It is ironic that liberals are blasting General Flynn given his service in the Obama administration. Below is some information about his service with the Obama administration.

From Wikipedia:

In September 2011, Flynn was promoted to Lieutenant General and assigned to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. On April 17, 2012, President Barack Obama nominated Flynn to be the 18th director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Flynn took command of the DIA in July 2012. In October 2012, Flynn announced plans to release his paper "VISION2020: Accelerating Change Through Integration", a broad look at how the Defense Intelligence Agency must transform to meet the national security challenges for the 21st Century. It was meant to emphasize “integration, interagency teamwork and innovation of the whole workforce, not just the technology but the people.”

On April 30, 2014, Flynn announced his retirement effective later in 2014, about a year earlier than he had been scheduled to leave his position. He was reportedly effectively forced out of the DIA after clashing with superiors over his allegedly chaotic management style and vision for the agency

According to what Flynn had told in one final interview as DIA director, he felt like a lone voice in thinking that the United States was less safe from the threat of Islamic terrorism in 2014 than it was prior to the 9/11 attacks; he went on to believe that he was pressed into retirement for questioning the Obama administration’s public narrative that Al Qaeda was close to defeat. Journalist Seymour Hersh wrote that "Flynn confirmed [to Hersh] that his agency had sent a constant stream of classified warnings ... about the dire consequences of toppling [Syrian President] Assad." Flynn recounted that his agency was producing intelligence reports indicating that radical Islamists were the main force in the Syrian insurgency and "that Turkey was looking the other way when it came to the growth of the Islamic State inside Syria." According to Flynn, these reports "got enormous pushback from the Obama administration," who he felt "did not want to hear the truth." According to former DIA official W. Patrick Lang: "Flynn incurred the wrath of the White House by insisting on telling the truth about Syria ... they shoved him out. He wouldn't shut up." In an interview with Al Jazeera, Flynn criticized the Obama administration for its delay in supporting the opposition in Syria, thereby allowing for the growth of Al Nusra and other extremist forces: "when you don’t get in and help somebody, they’re gonna find other means to achieve their goals" and that "we should have done more earlier on in this effort, you know, than we did."


Flynn was a rogue operator and egomaniac who was pushed out by his colleagues at DOD. He was a tireless self promoter who clashed with DNI Clapper and other senior intelligence officials as he tried to expand the mission of DIA to compete more directly with the CIA.
S
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2016 20:53     Subject: Re:Trump's cabinet appointments

It is ironic that liberals are blasting General Flynn given his service in the Obama administration. Below is some information about his service with the Obama administration.

From Wikipedia:

In September 2011, Flynn was promoted to Lieutenant General and assigned to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. On April 17, 2012, President Barack Obama nominated Flynn to be the 18th director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Flynn took command of the DIA in July 2012. In October 2012, Flynn announced plans to release his paper "VISION2020: Accelerating Change Through Integration", a broad look at how the Defense Intelligence Agency must transform to meet the national security challenges for the 21st Century. It was meant to emphasize “integration, interagency teamwork and innovation of the whole workforce, not just the technology but the people.”

On April 30, 2014, Flynn announced his retirement effective later in 2014, about a year earlier than he had been scheduled to leave his position. He was reportedly effectively forced out of the DIA after clashing with superiors over his allegedly chaotic management style and vision for the agency

According to what Flynn had told in one final interview as DIA director, he felt like a lone voice in thinking that the United States was less safe from the threat of Islamic terrorism in 2014 than it was prior to the 9/11 attacks; he went on to believe that he was pressed into retirement for questioning the Obama administration’s public narrative that Al Qaeda was close to defeat. Journalist Seymour Hersh wrote that "Flynn confirmed [to Hersh] that his agency had sent a constant stream of classified warnings ... about the dire consequences of toppling [Syrian President] Assad." Flynn recounted that his agency was producing intelligence reports indicating that radical Islamists were the main force in the Syrian insurgency and "that Turkey was looking the other way when it came to the growth of the Islamic State inside Syria." According to Flynn, these reports "got enormous pushback from the Obama administration," who he felt "did not want to hear the truth." According to former DIA official W. Patrick Lang: "Flynn incurred the wrath of the White House by insisting on telling the truth about Syria ... they shoved him out. He wouldn't shut up." In an interview with Al Jazeera, Flynn criticized the Obama administration for its delay in supporting the opposition in Syria, thereby allowing for the growth of Al Nusra and other extremist forces: "when you don’t get in and help somebody, they’re gonna find other means to achieve their goals" and that "we should have done more earlier on in this effort, you know, than we did."